0471: "Aversion Fads"

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby micksam7 » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:16 pm UTC

Any time someone posts something about furries, all the fur lurkers come out in droves. :)


And there's plenty of different levels of furs; those that make it a lifestyle at one end, and those who just keep it online at the other.
Kind of like D&D geeks: those who just play at home, those who go to the occational local game, those who go to conventions or competitions, and those who play it near religiously. Sometimes furs move between those levels as well, start at one end and move up to whatever spot they are comfortable with, sometimes crawl back down.

There's those who make it a fetish; those of us that really only rp; those who just draw anthropomorphic art; and all sorts of combinations of the three.

Personally, I just use my character online; offline I'd probably geek out with a few fellow furs, but not really likely to make it in-your-face public. I don't fur-suit. I'd probably attend a furry convention though to meet up with friends, however.


Hey... how come no one asked why there's a fox/wolf/cat/general fur in this comic? I mean come on! It's not all fox ears and fluffy tails; there's some of us who prefer going around as other things! ;)


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To use the ones that wierd me out the most...

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Paleo_Orca » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:23 pm UTC

micksam7 wrote:Any time someone posts something about furries, all the fur lurkers come out in droves. :)


And there's plenty of different levels of furs; those that make it a lifestyle at one end, and those who just keep it online at the other.
Kind of like D&D geeks: those who just play at home, those who go to the occational local game, those who go to conventions or competitions, and those who play it near religiously. Sometimes furs move between those levels as well, start at one end and move up to whatever spot they are comfortable with, sometimes crawl back down.

There's those who make it a fetish; those of us that really only rp; those who just draw anthropomorphic art; and all sorts of combinations of the three.

Personally, I just use my character online; offline I'd probably geek out with a few fellow furs, but not really likely to make it in-your-face public. I don't fur-suit. I'd probably attend a furry convention though to meet up with friends, however.


Hey... how come no one asked why there's a fox/wolf/cat/general fur in this comic? I mean come on! It's not all fox ears and fluffy tails; there's some of us who prefer going around as other things! ;)


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To use the ones that wierd me out the most...

Don't forget scat!


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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Armaina » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:32 pm UTC

SJ Zero wrote:If you post on /b/, you're going to get trolled. It doesn't matter what you post.

This

Which was what vodka.cobra was trying to say all along!

I mean honestly, it's pretty pathetic of someone thinks that posting on /b/ defending whatever it is they want to defend and that people will actually care. Nobody cares about who you are, what you do, or what you're trying to enlighten everyone about. The fact that one would care so much about a thread on 4chan is a clear indication that someone seriously needs to work on their priorities and possibly step away from the computer for like... a month.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Steve the Pocket » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:47 pm UTC

racoonjwoolsey wrote:
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niko7865 wrote:No alt text?!

Furries are one of the least disturbing fetishes you can find on the internet....

I so dont want to know.


Breast Vore, Cock Vore, Unbirthing and macrophilia.

To use the ones that wierd me out the most...

Just so we're clear, and this seems to be backed up by you're username, you only know those exist from spending so much time around furries, amirite?

Also what is so disturbing about giants? Unless you mean the ones who use skyscrapers as sex toys.
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Jebobek » Wed Sep 03, 2008 5:50 pm UTC

From the sound of /b/, I think the best way to troll is to go in there and be REALLY NICE with people and genuinley agree with them. Always.
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby racoonjwoolsey » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:11 pm UTC

Steve the Pocket wrote:
racoonjwoolsey wrote:
mhdagley wrote:
niko7865 wrote:No alt text?!

Furries are one of the least disturbing fetishes you can find on the internet....

I so dont want to know.


Breast Vore, Cock Vore, Unbirthing and macrophilia.

To use the ones that wierd me out the most...

Just so we're clear, and this seems to be backed up by you're username, you only know those exist from spending so much time around furries, amirite?

Also what is so disturbing about giants? Unless you mean the ones who use skyscrapers as sex toys.


No that was the fetish comic list earlier on XKCD, which made me find some list, which led to finding a site, and the rest is history.

Actually, no my username came from over the hedge, I was screwing with variations of my name, and then, having watched plenty of over the hedge the day before, rather than call myself RJWoolsey, which was taken where I was signing up, I switched it to raccoon from the character RJ who shared the name. misspelled raccoon, X(. But by the time I figured out I spelled it wrong, I was racoonjwoolsey on another forum...

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Hypnotoad2966 » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:15 pm UTC

Jebobek wrote:From the sound of /b/, I think the best way to troll is to go in there and be REALLY NICE with people and genuinley agree with them. Always.


That sounds like an awesome group troll. Someone should set up a time when we all go in there and be really nice. Totally transform /b/ for an hour or so.

Ok maybe I'm just bored at work, but right now it sounds awesome.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:15 pm UTC

And here I'd thought I'd found the OTHER fetish that it was safe for open-minded people to bash...

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Dobblesworth » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:18 pm UTC

I, for one, welcome our new overlords of the 'humans interested in anthropomorphic animals' variety - howdy!
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Edit: Gah screwed myself over with a double negative
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby racoonjwoolsey » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:30 pm UTC

This pic is funny.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Armaina » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:31 pm UTC

racoonjwoolsey wrote:This pic is funny.

*snickers*

(on that subject, furries that don't like 'hyoomans' drive me nuts! I don't care what you believe are you are still physically human!)

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Tanuki » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:33 pm UTC

Sorry about being so late on this, but referring back to the question of why Autism-spectrum disorders are being increasingly diagnosed: it is because the diagnostic criteria are being broadened to include previously thought to be unrelated disorders. There is no actual increase in the ratio of people with Autism-spectrum disorders (Asperger's being one) - rather, we're just better at diagnosing them now.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby HPDDJ » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:36 pm UTC

I'm the guy pointing and whispering in the first frame.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Abstruse » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:39 pm UTC

Tanuki wrote:Sorry about being so late on this, but referring back to the question of why Autism-spectrum disorders are being increasingly diagnosed: it is because the diagnostic criteria are being broadened to include previously thought to be unrelated disorders. There is no actual increase in the ratio of people with Autism-spectrum disorders (Asperger's being one) - rather, we're just better at diagnosing them now.



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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby rrwoods » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:40 pm UTC

Dobblesworth wrote:I, for one, welcome our new overlords of the 'humans interested in anthropomorphic animals' variety - howdy!

Why thank you :-)
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Armaina » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:41 pm UTC

Tanuki wrote:Sorry about being so late on this, but referring back to the question of why Autism-spectrum disorders are being increasingly diagnosed: it is because the diagnostic criteria are being broadened to include previously thought to be unrelated disorders. There is no actual increase in the ratio of people with Autism-spectrum disorders (Asperger's being one) - rather, we're just better at diagnosing them now.

My problem is more along the lines of Autisim/Aspergers being used as an excuse for being rude or well.. practically anything. Most the time the people that use this excuse are self diagnosed only because they happen to have a few of the works on the 'list' as it were. Honestly the fact that this has become so common as a type of excuse is what's bothering me.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby HPDDJ » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:41 pm UTC

HistidineTheCat wrote:Furries are creepy as hell. But that's not why they bother me. It's how darn vocal they are (as mentioned above). Seriously, are there yearly conventions held for any other kind of fetish? (Not counting general "fetish balls")


I want a Yellow Fever Convention. Now.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby lethesoda » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:44 pm UTC

HPDDJ wrote:
HistidineTheCat wrote:Furries are creepy as hell. But that's not why they bother me. It's how darn vocal they are (as mentioned above). Seriously, are there yearly conventions held for any other kind of fetish? (Not counting general "fetish balls")


I want a Yellow Fever Convention. Now.


... I thought that was what Anime conventions were for? :)
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Abstruse » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:56 pm UTC

lethesoda wrote:
HPDDJ wrote:
HistidineTheCat wrote:Furries are creepy as hell. But that's not why they bother me. It's how darn vocal they are (as mentioned above). Seriously, are there yearly conventions held for any other kind of fetish? (Not counting general "fetish balls")


I want a Yellow Fever Convention. Now.


... I thought that was what Anime conventions were for? :)


The only tits at anime conventions are on the boys.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby HPDDJ » Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:58 pm UTC

lethesoda wrote:
HPDDJ wrote:
HistidineTheCat wrote:Furries are creepy as hell. But that's not why they bother me. It's how darn vocal they are (as mentioned above). Seriously, are there yearly conventions held for any other kind of fetish? (Not counting general "fetish balls")


I want a Yellow Fever Convention. Now.


... I thought that was what Anime conventions were for? :)


You're thinking Hentai convention or summat. I want Asian Women in the flesh.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Crustimoney Proseedcake » Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:01 pm UTC

This is the kind of xkcd strip I love, and haven't seen in a while. It's my favourite since "Voting Machines".

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Guy_At_A_Keyboard » Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:11 pm UTC

HistidineTheCat wrote:Furries are creepy as hell. But that's not why they bother me. It's how darn vocal they are (as mentioned above). Seriously, are there yearly conventions held for any other kind of fetish? (Not counting general "fetish balls")
Well, in the case of scat, there's a good excuse. Can you imagine how unsanitary that building would be?








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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby pegasos989 » Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:23 pm UTC

HistidineTheCat wrote:Furries are creepy as hell. But that's not why they bother me. It's how darn vocal they are (as mentioned above). Seriously, are there yearly conventions held for any other kind of fetish? (Not counting general "fetish balls")


Hmm. Have you heard of... I dunno... Pride parades?

All kinds of things related to sexuality have their own events.

After that, it is just a matter on defining. A lot of people would see liking anthropomorphic characters similarly to any other sexual orientation.

Sex glossary defines fetish as:

Fetish A sexual fixation on a concept, object, or body part. A person with a fetish feels a compulsive need to use the object in order to obtain sexual gratification, and cannot achieve pleasure without it. There is usually a psychological connection between the individual's fetish and important events in the past. Common fetishes - for feet, watching pornographic movies, for lacy underwear, certain smells etc.

And while that is just one of the definitions, furry fandom would IMO be much closer to sexual orientation than a fetish.

And for those MANY furries for whom it isn't a sexual thing... Well, then the list stays just as wide. Anime cons, etc.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby FourLetterWord » Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:36 pm UTC

Armaina wrote:
SJ Zero wrote:If you post on /b/, you're going to get trolled. It doesn't matter what you post.

This

Which was what vodka.cobra was trying to say all along!

I mean honestly, it's pretty pathetic of someone thinks that posting on /b/ defending whatever it is they want to defend and that people will actually care. Nobody cares about who you are, what you do, or what you're trying to enlighten everyone about. The fact that one would care so much about a thread on 4chan is a clear indication that someone seriously needs to work on their priorities and possibly step away from the computer for like... a month.


this argument has always been really really weak beer

"you care too much about the internet" is a hard sell when you've posted it on the internet, talking about other people posting on the internet--you're all jumping over the same bar of effort

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby DarkRat » Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:39 pm UTC

Interesting how this comic shows up, only a few days after the biggest Furry convention in europe ;)

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Hypnotoad2966 » Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:45 pm UTC

Armaina wrote:
Tanuki wrote:Sorry about being so late on this, but referring back to the question of why Autism-spectrum disorders are being increasingly diagnosed: it is because the diagnostic criteria are being broadened to include previously thought to be unrelated disorders. There is no actual increase in the ratio of people with Autism-spectrum disorders (Asperger's being one) - rather, we're just better at diagnosing them now.

My problem is more along the lines of Autisim/Aspergers being used as an excuse for being rude or well.. practically anything. Most the time the people that use this excuse are self diagnosed only because they happen to have a few of the works on the 'list' as it were. Honestly the fact that this has become so common as a type of excuse is what's bothering me.


It does seem like half the internet is self diagnosed as having mild Aspergers. I'm sure part of the increase in actual diagnoses is that they're better at diagnosing it. But that doesn't explain the sheer number of self-diagnoses. Man diagnose is tough to spell and I used about 3 different forms there. Wait, there was a fourth one.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby SJ Zero » Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:48 pm UTC

FourLetterWord wrote:this argument has always been really really weak beer

"you care too much about the internet" is a hard sell when you've posted it on the internet, talking about other people posting on the internet--you're all jumping over the same bar of effort


We're not talking about "The Internet", we're talking about /b/, the most racist, sexist, homophobic, offensive, at times downright criminal page on the entire Internet. Make ANY post there, and you're going to get trolled and flamed. Post ANYTHING, and you're "the cancer that's killing /b/".

It's like going to the AIDS needle factory and complaining that there are AIDS needles there.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Abstruse » Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:55 pm UTC

It's like going to the AIDS needle factory and complaining that there are AIDS needles there.


I wish I weren't such an awful person, that made me crackup.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby FourLetterWord » Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:58 pm UTC

SJ Zero wrote:We're not talking about "The Internet", we're talking about /b/, the most racist, sexist, homophobic, offensive, at times downright criminal page on the entire Internet. Make ANY post there, and you're going to get trolled and flamed. Post ANYTHING, and you're "the cancer that's killing /b/".

It's like going to the AIDS needle factory and complaining that there are AIDS needles there.


except the on-again-off-again furry bans, the way the mod team still seems goony as hell about it despite years of seperation from SA, etc etc

if your description was accurate it wouldn't be a problem

its like you guys think that, once you get a certain number of internet nerds under the same anonymous tent, you're no longer capable of being wrong about stuff

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Webster » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:03 pm UTC

HistidineTheCat wrote:Furries are creepy as hell. But that's not why they bother me. It's how darn vocal they are (as mentioned above). Seriously, are there yearly conventions held for any other kind of fetish? (Not counting general "fetish balls")


Heh.

Have you heard of anime conventions? Or Star Trek conventions? Or Star Wars conventions? Or slash fic conventions? Or the Superbowl? (Really and truly, is there any self-wanking fetish ball bigger or more glorified than the Superbowl?)

More seriously, I don't really think of furry as inherently a fetish at all. I've had dragon prints on my walls for years, and only started wandering into things that are officially labelled as "furry" this last year. Just got back from a weekend at Mephit Fur Meet in Memphis, actually, and it was much tamer than what I'm used to seeing at A-Kon each year. *Many* fewer cosplayers/fursuiters (proportionately and numerically), and more people actually interacting with the costumes there were. I ended up bringing home some dragon prints that will help redefine my current collection, and a gorgeous tiger piece to go with my fairies and my goldfish-ship.

I'm with the people who say furries need to take themselves a bit less seriously, though. I've been talking about MFM for a while at work, and about the furry con we're planning for next year, and occasionally someone wanders up to me and asks, "Isn't that... those freaky people who dress up as animals and have sex? I saw this thing on G4..." I just sort of laugh it off, and casually correct their misimpressions, and usually get a thoughtful "huh" as they wander off. (Then again, I'm the person in the office who sends Snopes links to people who forward urban legends and the like, so I've got some credibility built up to trade against.) One of my coworkers tried to respond seriously and almost debate-style, but didn't understand that taking that tone only lends credence to the people who try to take it overly seriously... so he got some odd looks. It really feels like a nasty cycle to me. People make fun of furries, so furries get defensive and insular, so people make fun of furries because their impressions were just confirmed, so furries get defensive and insular, etc.

I've bounced between fandoms since I was 14, and one thing I've learned is this: every fandom - Trekkies, otaku, furries - think that it is weirder or crazier than the others; furrydom needs to accept that we're really like most other fandoms, and laugh at the idiots who try to make something worse of us rather than getting upset and adding fuel to their fire.

For the people for whom it starts with sex... well, I've run into that in most fandoms, and have a fine appreciation for tentacle hentai, as well as bishi-boys in general. Hotness is hotness, furry or animated or not. :-D

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby FourLetterWord » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:07 pm UTC

Webster wrote:Heh.


tl;dr

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby william » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:14 pm UTC

Webster wrote:(Really and truly, is there any self-wanking fetish ball bigger or more glorified than the Superbowl?)

No.
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby SpotWeld » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:17 pm UTC

william wrote:
Webster wrote:(Really and truly, is there any self-wanking fetish ball bigger or more glorified than the Superbowl?)

No.


*blink* Are we forgetting national political conventions?
Seriously... those things make furrycons look *sane*

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Webster » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:18 pm UTC

*g* Sorry, got carried away. Summary:

1. Fandom = Fun. Furry = Fandom. Furry = Fun.
2. Furries need to learn to take themselves less seriously and join the rest of geeky fandom in laughing at people who take themselves too seriously.
3. American football sucks. Superbowl commercials, though somewhat cultish in their mindless following, almost make up for it. d-:

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby FireZs » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:23 pm UTC

Armaina wrote:
SJ Zero wrote:If you post on /b/, you're going to get trolled. It doesn't matter what you post.

This

Which was what vodka.cobra was trying to say all along!

I mean honestly, it's pretty pathetic of someone thinks that posting on /b/ defending whatever it is they want to defend and that people will actually care. Nobody cares about who you are, what you do, or what you're trying to enlighten everyone about. The fact that one would care so much about a thread on 4chan is a clear indication that someone seriously needs to work on their priorities and possibly step away from the computer for like... a month.


Nihilism masquerading as power. "I care less than you, therefore I am superior."

It's also not what vodka.cobra was really saying.

vodka: "All you furries shouldn't get so pissed when we make fun of you."
others: "So if furries did nothing, you would stop making fun of them?"
vodka: "No, but it'd make my trolling them more enjoyable."

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Sprocket » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:27 pm UTC

So, hating furries..bad. Hating emo kids...ok? I'm sensing contradiction...damn it XKCD, I need a new religion now!
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby lethesoda » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:29 pm UTC

Sprocket wrote:So, hating furries..bad. Hating emo kids...ok? I'm sensing contradiction...damn it XKCD, I need a new religion now!


Computational Linguists. Also, clubs/religions involving funny hats.
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby LupusGrey » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:33 pm UTC

Abstruse wrote:The only tits at anime conventions are on the boys.


Wow! The anime conventions in denmark is filled with girls wanting hentai with two men falling in love. Maybe it's just different here.

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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Sprocket » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:33 pm UTC

lethesoda wrote:
Sprocket wrote:So, hating furries..bad. Hating emo kids...ok? I'm sensing contradiction...damn it XKCD, I need a new religion now!


Computational Linguists. Also, clubs/religions involving funny hats.
I was just contemplating the culture of funny hats the other night, perhaps I've misjudged them, and this is my call to their order.
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Armaina
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Re: "Aversion Fads" Discussion

Postby Armaina » Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:34 pm UTC

FourLetterWord wrote:this argument has always been really really weak beer

"you care too much about the internet" is a hard sell when you've posted it on the internet, talking about other people posting on the internet--you're all jumping over the same bar of effort
Uuuummmm what? I'm talking about people take internet jokes personally, especially things on 4chan and especially /b/

If you're getting personally upset by someone's 'yiff in hell' comment, yeah, that's kinda silly honestly.

heh that reminds me, in the artspots chat we had someone flood the chat with 'Yiff in hell' and we didn't even react to it, eventually the guy stopped and just started talking to us, I think he was disappointed that we didn't react hahahahaha. And -that- is how you handle trolls.


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