0499: "Scantron"

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0499: "Scantron"

Postby cherryfizwiz » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:02 am UTC

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http://xkcd.com/499

Alt Text: Also, after all the warnings about filling in the bubbles completely, I spent like 30 seconds on each one.

Hahaha I love this one! When doing scantrons, I have to outline the bubbles first and then fill it in.
oh, and i also use mechanical pencils. which are NOT #2...

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby yadumey » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:04 am UTC

1) D'OH! Beat by 1 minute on my first topic starter.

2) From my topic: Don't remind me...I tried to block out all those standardized/GED test periods. I was always worried I forgot a slight sliver of circle and I'd get an error.

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby rebeccarobots » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:04 am UTC

Ohgod. The hardest part of the PSAT I took a few weeks ago was seriously gridding in all my personal information.

They wouldn't even let us use mechanical pencils because the lead doesn't press hard enough.

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby zantrua » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:04 am UTC

I had to spend like an hour after class once erasing marks on those equally spaced bars on the sides on the scantrons once, it was horrible.

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby matthudson » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:06 am UTC

I got that reference!!!

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby sargeras0000 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:06 am UTC

I make circles going from the middle out. It works perfectly.

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby ysth » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:07 am UTC

A math joke: r = | |csc(θ)|+|sec(θ)| |-| |csc(θ)|-|sec(θ)| |

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Quixotess » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:08 am UTC

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby cherryfizwiz » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:09 am UTC

For the academic decathlon competition, they handed us these special pencils that allowed you to fill in the scantron boxes in one stroke.
We got to keep the penctils and brought them to our AP exams, thinking we'd be able to own the multiple choice.

until we realized that the scantrons for the AP exams had round bubbles.

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Freiberg » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:10 am UTC

This is totally true and accurate. [citation needed]

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Bjoseph » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:12 am UTC

Where can you get such a magical pencil such as this?! I wants!
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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Borrowed Irony » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:14 am UTC

It's a good thing my roommate's gone or I would have scared him with how loud I laughed. I can always answer the questions quickly, but I'm nearly the last one finished because I take so long to fill in those bubbles. Maybe it's some subconsciously recognized fear that what happened in this comic will happen.

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby phlip » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:15 am UTC

Heh, I'll have to show this to my sister... she's in the middle of exams at the moment (not Scantron, or equivalent, but still...).

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby atrain » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:16 am UTC

Never had any problems w/scantrons + mechanical pencils. (0.5mm)

I hate filling in those %$@% bubbles. In 2008, they can't come up w/any better OCR than that? A batch scanner machine + software to align pages, determine location of bubbles, determine which of them on average is darkest out of a set. With quad-core machines so cheap, it would be cheaper than wasting all the graphite used these stupid bubbles.

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Lure+Breaker » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:18 am UTC

Great Reference. Can't choose option A and C.

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby includemaliciousintent » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:21 am UTC

My high school psychology teacher had to have a girl use a piece of paper because she had bad OCD when it came to those bubbles. She'd have to fill in every single one or something. I get that too, especially due to an elementary teacher who gave a college bubble filling "almost ruined her life" story. >.>" Good way to scare the children into OCD bubble filling.
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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Eternal Density » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:21 am UTC

Is it just me, or does the #2 look blurry compared to the #3 in panel 2?
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Never mind, it was on a zoom factor a not-very-significant amount above 100. Annoying.

I never had any problems with filling out those kinds of tests - mostly national math and science competitions. Most of mine were graded by the folks at University of Canberra, which I ended up attending. But all the multiple choice exams I did at UC were just 'circle the correct answer', because the classes weren't particularly big.
Didn't have any trouble with the tests either :P Won some cash in a math comp once.
I remember one kid in primary school who put his first and second names in the wrong places. This made for some lols/embarrassment when names were called out to distribute results sheets.
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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby NathanielK » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:21 am UTC

I always liked #2.5 pencils, but #2s did work better for scantrons. Luckily, mechanical pencil lead is typically #2.
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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby vodka.cobra » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:22 am UTC

If it's the most widely used pencil in the world, why is it still #2?

(I think that was a Carlin joke at some point.)
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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby sje46 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:22 am UTC

I'm usually very good with these kinds of tests. But I used to be one of the last ones to finish because I was afraid that if I didn't fill in the bubble right then I would fail the whole test.
My sister once used a pen on a test and skipped a question. She didn't realize what she had down until near the end.
Also, apparently it is supposed to be smarter to not fill in the whole bubble, but only fill in the center.
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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby GCM » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:23 am UTC

Heavy says: SO MUCH BLOOD!!!

Also, what is a scantron? One of those automatic graders? In which case, it makes more sense to me. :D

Also;

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby FearfulFerret » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:26 am UTC

To my knowledge, I've never had a problem with scantron tests, despite much worrying. And they don't stop at high school. I really can't wait to get out of these huge lecture classes with 300+ kids taking exams together.

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby phlip » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:28 am UTC

sje46 wrote:My sister once used a pen on a test and skipped a question. She didn't realize what she had down until near the end.

Ah, yes, I did that once... after that, I became pretty OCD about double- and triple-checking on every single question that the number next to the blob I was about to colour matched the number on the question I was answering...

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Carnildo » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:30 am UTC

cherryfizwiz wrote:oh, and i also use mechanical pencils. which are NOT #2...


HB lead (the most common type) is equivalent to a #2 wooden pencil. And yes, #1 versus #2 versus #3 does matter: a #3 doesn't reliably make marks dark enough for the machine to read, and the excess graphite from a #1 can cause the machine to malfunction.

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Hasufel » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:32 am UTC

"And the directions said to make a dark mark, so a drew a skull with a snake coming out of its mouth!"

A wonderful webisode with a cute song about #2 pencils: http://www.makingfiends.com/fiend09.htm

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Pifreak94 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:36 am UTC

The worst part about Scantron forms is you'll never know if you got a question wrong just because you didn't erase one bubble enough and/or didn't fill in a bubble enough.

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby chainofcommand02 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:41 am UTC

Ditto on the obsessively checking question number with number on Scantron sheet... And I always started outside and worked my way in, in a circular manner...

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby LSN » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:43 am UTC

GCM wrote:Heavy says: SO MUCH BLOOD!!!

Also, what is a scantron? One of those automatic graders? In which case, it makes more sense to me. :D

Also;

Freiberg wrote:This is totally true and accurate. [citation needed]


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Scantron is the name of a brand of those pieces of paper you may have used for multiple choice tests where you use a pencil to fill in the bubbles/boxes for the answer of your choice. Although "Scantron" is the name of the most popular brand, the term is often used to refer to any "bubble sheet" paper, even if it isn't made by that company.

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Chartreuse » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:47 am UTC

A number 1 pencil is B
A number 2 pencil is HB
A number 2 1/2 pencil is F
A number 3 pencil is H
A number 4 pencil is 2H
SOURCE: wikipedia.com

What happens if you use a #2 1/2 pencil?

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Number3Pencils » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:47 am UTC

I feel so... powerful.

I think I have taken Scantrons with a #3 before, when it was the only pencil I had. I just made sure to fill it in darker so I wouldn't get counted wrong. If only I had known the destructive power I had at my command. There were a few teachers I might have needed to off.
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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby sje46 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:49 am UTC

chainofcommand02 wrote:Ditto on the obsessively checking question number with number on Scantron sheet... And I always started outside and worked my way in, in a circular manner...

That must look weird.
So did they, like, have to follow you to make sure you wouldn't cheat? And it must have been hard to keep your pencil steady.
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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Nasaniaru » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:50 am UTC

I found this comic so relateable, I had to register on the forum to say. I remember when I had to take tests that involved a scantron and I've always wondered why people were so adamant about the whole number 2 pencil thing. I guess I have my answer now. Thanks Randall for making such a relateable comic.
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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Pifreak94 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:51 am UTC

Chartreuse wrote:A number 1 pencil is B
A number 2 pencil is HB
A number 2 1/2 pencil is F
A number 3 pencil is H
A number 4 pencil is 2H
SOURCE: wikipedia.com

What happens if you use a #2 1/2 pencil?


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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Amnesiasoft » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:52 am UTC

I have never once gotten a scantron question marked wrong due to anything but me not knowing the answer. Seriously, even when I've done a pretty bad eraser job.

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby AZkansei » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:54 am UTC

*Shudders* this brings back awful memories from RIT where every quiz, test, or exam that wasn't online was on one of those god forsaken scantron sheets. I've filled out hundreds of them. I thought after this summer I could finally put that chapter of my life behind me haha.

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Linux0s » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:55 am UTC

I know more about this than I care to admit. :mrgreen:
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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Hasufel » Mon Nov 03, 2008 5:59 am UTC

cherryfizwiz wrote:For the academic decathlon competition, they handed us these special pencils that allowed you to fill in the scantron boxes in one stroke.
We got to keep the penctils and brought them to our AP exams, thinking we'd be able to own the multiple choice.

until we realized that the scantrons for the AP exams had round bubbles.


Those are awesome pencils.
And I hate the round bubbles; they're harder to fill in.

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Evilscissors » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:03 am UTC

I love that 'AIEEE' is in this comic. It doesn't get used enough.

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby Cassidi3 » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:10 am UTC

Pifreak94 wrote:The worst part about Scantron forms is you'll never know if you got a question wrong just because you didn't erase one bubble enough and/or didn't fill in a bubble enough.

i always worry about that.

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Re: "Scantron" Discussion

Postby xprezonfirex » Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:21 am UTC

Actually when you fill those things out the number of the pencil isn't what matters. The number only refers to the diameter in milimeters of the lead. Its really the HB you see on the pencils that counts. HB stands for Hard and Bold as opposed to a softer lead that won't make a dark mark. So if you use a .5 lead pencil it'll still work for scantrons because those are normally always HB.


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