0169: "Words that End in GRY"

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0169: "Words that End in GRY"

Postby Gelsamel » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:10 am UTC

But I fell for it again! >.<;


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Postby Jack Saladin » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:37 am UTC

Best comic ever.


Indeed! I always knew there was something I was supposed to do in these situations, but never really knew the proper etiquette. Thanks xkcd!

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Postby Gelsamel » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:39 am UTC

Saladin wrote:
Best comic ever.


Indeed! I always knew there was something I was supposed to do in these situations, but never really knew the proper etiquette. Thanks xkcd!


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Postby myoumyouou » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:39 am UTC

yay for cutting people for being stupid. best way to solve that problem
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Postby Jack Saladin » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:59 am UTC

Guess it makes a happy change from cutting yourself for being stupid, huh?

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Postby animatorgeek » Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:32 am UTC

Um... I don't get it. Can someone explain it to me?

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Postby Jack Saladin » Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:35 am UTC

Explaining xkcd is like stabbing a baby in the face.

That is to say; it ruins it. Or at least its modelling career.

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Postby Gelsamel » Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:37 am UTC

animatorgeek wrote:Um... I don't get it. Can someone explain it to me?


Basically the person asks the person what the 3rd word is. When the person fumbles and tries to find what the third word ending in -gry is the person who said the question tells them it's "language".

To get it just ignore the sentence "'Angry' and 'Hungry' are two of them."

There are 3 words in "the English language". What is the third?

Now with the quotes it's obvious, but you don't hear the quotes when someone tells asks you this.

It's supposed to be an exercise to demonstrate the misinterperatation in the way you can say things.

So basically the whole "joke" (I guess, what else could you call it?) is based soley on being purposely misinterperated. The problem is anyone who inevitably says that always acts smug and intelligent when you don't get the answer.
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Postby Jack Saladin » Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:39 am UTC

And then you cut their hands off and watch them slowly bleed to death, and then say something cliche like "Not so smug now, are we?"

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Postby SpitValve » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:04 am UTC

So what's the point of the "gry" thing? Because there are no words in "the English language" that end with "gry" then...

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Postby Gelsamel » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:10 am UTC

SpitValve wrote:So what's the point of the "gry" thing? Because there are no words in "the English language" that end with "gry" then...


It's to increase the confusion when added with the deliberately confusing "Two of them are Angry and Hungry"

The version in the comic is paraphrased slightly..

This is the original form

"Think of words ending in "-gry". "Angry" and "hungry" are two of them. There are only three words in "the English language." What is the third word? The word is something that everyone uses every day. If you have listened carefully, I have already told you what it is."

Edit: Also note the paraphased version in the comic is probably quoted more often by people rather then the version before. Which almost makes the 'joke'/'riddle'/thing not even work.

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Postby puntloos » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:25 am UTC

Along the same line as this comic, people who make some claim in a matter of fact voice, then say 'gotcha!' when I treat it as such also need limbs severed.

For now Ive just resigned myself to saying: 'That statement wasn't clearly dumber than your usual bonehead remarks, so I couldn't decide if it was a joke or not.'

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Postby phlip » Wed Oct 11, 2006 11:36 am UTC

Just to put it to rest...

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phlip@localhost:~$ grep gry /usr/share/dict/words
angry
hungry


[edit] It used to be 'gry$', but even that isn't needed.
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Postby Shii » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:01 pm UTC

In case you haven't heard of this annoying joke before:
http://www.word-detective.com/gry.html
http://www.greece.k12.ny.us/Taylor/topics/grypuzzle.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gry
http://snopes.com/language/puzzlers/gry.asp

(According to the interesting Wikipedia theory, this was an actual riddle until someone who was neither smart nor funny hijacked it.)
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Postby xkcd » Wed Oct 11, 2006 3:04 pm UTC

Gelsamel wrote:
SpitValve wrote:So what's the point of the "gry" thing? Because there are no words in "the English language" that end with "gry" then...


It's to increase the confusion when added with the deliberately confusing "Two of them are Angry and Hungry"

The version in the comic is paraphrased slightly..

This is the original form

"Think of words ending in "-gry". "Angry" and "hungry" are two of them. There are only three words in "the English language." What is the third word? The word is something that everyone uses every day. If you have listened carefully, I have already told you what it is."

Edit: Also note the paraphased version in the comic is probably quoted more often by people rather then the version before. Which almost makes the 'joke'/'riddle'/thing not even work.

The thing that I guess a lot of people don't realize is that originally, the "English Language" bit wasn't even a part of this riddle. It was just a head-breaker because there was no answer. But then someone who thought they were oh-so-clever came up with that "the English Language" answer, and there have been hundreds of different wordings of the puzzle floating around since then, some of them more friendly to that stupid interpretation than others. I'd been hearing the angry/hungry puzzle for years (and talked about the interesting fact that there was no answer) before I ever heard someone try the "language" thing.

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Postby wisnij » Wed Oct 11, 2006 6:39 pm UTC

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Postby Air Gear » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:17 pm UTC

You know, the thought of mauling people who use that one "riddle" makes me feel all warm inside like a mug of hot chocolate after being out in the snow.

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Postby Verysillyman » Wed Oct 11, 2006 8:49 pm UTC

The version in the comic doesn't really even make sense. But I think that just makes it fit even better. Kudos.

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Postby Matt » Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:58 pm UTC

GRAB
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Postby johnpeb » Wed Oct 11, 2006 10:13 pm UTC

phlip wrote:Just to put it to rest...

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phlip@localhost:~$ grep gry /usr/share/dict/words
angry
hungry



I don't know where I found my wordlist but ...

$ grep "gry$" wordlist.txt
Aggry
Angry
Hungry
Puggry


From dict.org:

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1 definition found for aggry

From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 :
  Aggry \Ag"gry\, Aggri \Ag"gri\, a.
     Applied to a kind of variegated glass beads of ancient
     manufacture; as, aggry beads are found in Ashantee and Fantee
     in Africa.
     [1913 Webster]


1 definition found for puggry

From The Collaborative International Dictionary of English v.0.48 :
  Puggry \Pug"gry\, Puggree \Pug"gree\, n. [Written also
     puggaree, puggeree, etc.] [Hind. pag[.r]i turban.]
     A light scarf wound around a hat or helmet to protect the
     head from the sun. [India] --Yule.
 
           A blue-gray felt hat with a gold puggaree. --Kipling.
     [Webster 1913 Suppl.]



I guess those count as obscure though.

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Postby Axolotl » Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:50 am UTC

Verysillyman wrote:The version in the comic doesn't really even make sense.


Yeah that kind of jarred with me, the fact that the way it's worded in the comic doesn't actually work. Was that intended as a way of making the riddle seem even more annoying? Because personally I still enjoyed the punchline panels, but I can't read it without a nagging feeling of 'this doesn't quite work'... for mine the riddle in its common (and not entirely nonsensical) form is annoyingly stupid enough to serve as a more than adequate setup.

I don't mean to be overcritical/overanalytical, I just thought I might as well give an honest opinion on the rare occasion that the comic seems less great than it should be.

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Postby Gelsamel » Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:57 am UTC

I think the point is it's so overquoted that people missphrase the question itself. So essentially it's become a parody of itself amoung the common.

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Postby Axolotl » Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:30 am UTC

Perhaps. I haven't seen that specific 'riddle' particularly often, so I guess for me the humour had to work at a more general level.

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Postby Gelsamel » Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:38 am UTC

Axolotl wrote:Perhaps. I haven't seen that specific 'riddle' particularly often, so I guess for me the humour had to work at a more general level.


Cutting off some idiots arm is suffice humour to me.

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Postby Teaspoon » Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:52 am UTC

Actually, I've seen the delivery of this riddle botched up in a very similar way to the one in the comic.

It's almost like the teller read it in an email, was told the answer after hassling the sender for a day or two, and then decided it was kind of clever so decided to retell it so they could feel clever without making sure they understood how the tricky wording worked first.

People who tell these lame riddles and get all smug about it need a limb removed, yes, but people who tell them in a way that doesn't even have the word-trick that made the riddle possible in the first way clearly want you to cut off my arms and legs with a chainsaw. So I did. Then he got all indignant on me and he was all like "Come on, man, I was being sarcastic" and I was like "Well how was I supposed to know, I'm not a freakin' mind reader" and at least he got a cute nickname out of it; "Torso boy!"

Ooops, I slipped into Albaquerque-quoting-mode for a moment there. :P

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Postby Valandil » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:28 am UTC

When I saw this strip, I smiled. More broadly so than I have for any other strip on xkcd, brilliant though the rest are. I wasn't aware that there actually had been, in the past, a phrasing behind the question that actually made some sense and actually could be answered correctly with "Language". I just naturally assumed that anyone who told this riddle was completely oblivious to all English grammar, and needed something done to them. Yay for limb-removal!

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Postby Gelsamel » Thu Oct 12, 2006 8:30 am UTC

Valandil wrote:When I saw this strip, I smiled. More broadly so than I have for any other strip on xkcd, brilliant though the rest are. I wasn't aware that there actually had been, in the past, a phrasing behind the question that actually made some sense and actually could be answered correctly with "Language". I just naturally assumed that anyone who told this riddle was completely oblivious to all English grammar, and needed something done to them. Yay for limb-removal!

And yay for my first post on the forums!


Haha, welcome to the forums!

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Postby kira » Thu Oct 12, 2006 10:56 am UTC

Axolotl wrote:Was that intended as a way of making the riddle seem even more annoying?
...
I don't mean to be overcritical/overanalytical, I just thought I might as well give an honest opinion on the rare occasion that the comic seems less great than it should be.


... This is xkcd you're talking about. He doesn't make mistakes. His humor is flawless. Obviously, you are the flawed one.

And you have no business in my xkcdian utopia.

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Postby Gelsamel » Thu Oct 12, 2006 11:29 am UTC

kira wrote:... This is xkcd you're talking about. He doesn't make mistakes. His humor is flawless. Obviously, you are the flawed one.

And you have no business in my xkcdian utopia.



/pat :lol:

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Postby Verysillyman » Thu Oct 12, 2006 12:27 pm UTC

Yeah, I too worship so presumed that the botching was to add ire.

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Postby __Kit » Sun Jun 24, 2007 9:09 am UTC

Amen.
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Postby gringer » Mon Jun 25, 2007 12:17 am UTC

I like the tone of the text in the snopes page on this:

http://snopes.com/language/puzzlers/gry.asp

There's one possibility that it might have been a better puzzle when it was first devised, but the cunning phrases have been mashed up too much by other people trying to improve on it.

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Re: snopes

Postby Joshua » Mon Jun 25, 2007 1:41 pm UTC

gringer wrote:I like the tone of the text in the snopes page on this:

http://snopes.com/language/puzzlers/gry.asp


oh snopes...
i hear they run a network of spam servers that started a lot of the urban legends in the first place.

(also, hurray for bringing back a thread from october)

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Postby jayjaywalker3 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:36 am UTC

I am going to use this comic's basic idea except substituting permanent body damage for temporary body damage. Too bad I wont be able to get the same effect of explaining the punishment while the person was experiencing it.

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Postby Ghona » Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:49 pm UTC

How's this for a rephrased riddle:

"In the English language there are at least three words in the common vocabulary that have an end which contains the letters gry in order. Angry and hungry are two of them. Name a third."It's Gryphon. I never said that it wasn't at the front end.

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Postby beekers03 » Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:58 pm UTC

I thought it was funny simply because my friends always get on to me for correcting their English..

I just hope none of them ever cut off my arm for teasing them with word games...

i can't help it! i'm an English major.

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Re: Unofficial Words that End in 'GRY' thread :O

Postby Rilian » Sun Feb 28, 2010 10:00 am UTC

I came looking for this thread because I was all mad that the riddle didn't make any sense, no matter how you looked at it, and see that other people have said the same thing.

I'd heard it like this: "There are three words in the english language that end in -gry. Angry and hungry are two of them. What's the third word?" And the only way it makes sense is if you just accept the fact that the part about -gry and angry and hungry is a lie.
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Re: Unofficial Words that End in 'GRY' thread :O

Postby funda » Sun Feb 28, 2010 7:50 pm UTC

http://www.fun-with-words.com/word_gry_angry_hungry.html


The possible answers (if obsolete words, names, and hyphenated compounds of "angry" and "hungry" are allowed) are plentiful. Most of the 124 listed below were in the 1933 edition of the Oxford English Dictionary, and all have appeared in some major dictionary of English:

affect-hungry fire-angry MacLoingry Seagry
aggry Gagry mad-angry self-angry
Agry girl-hungry mad-hungry selfe-angry
ahungry gonagry magry sensation-hungry
air-hungry gry malgry sex-angry
anhungry haegry man-hungry sex-hungry
Badagry half-angry managry Shchigry
Ballingry hangry mannagry shiggry
begry heart-angry Margry Shtchigry
bewgry heart-hungry maugry sight-hungry
boroughmongry higry pigry mawgry skugry
bowgry hogry meagry Sygry
braggry hogrymogry meat-hungry Tangry
Bugry hongry menagry Tchangry
Chockpugry hound-hungry messagry Tchigry
Cogry houngry music-hungry tear-angry
cony-gry huggrymuggry nangry th'angry
conyngry hund-hungry overangry tike-hungry
cottagry Hungry Bungry Pelegry Tingry
Croftangry hwngry Pingry toggry
diamond-hungry iggry Podagry ulgry
dog-hungry Jagry Pongry unangry
dogge-hungry job-hungry pottingry vergry
Dshagry kaingry power-hungry Vigry
Dzagry land-hungry profit-hungry vngry
eard-hungry Langry puggry war-hungry
Echanuggry leather-hungry pugry Wigry
Egry ledderhungry red-angry wind-hungry
euer-angry life-hungry rungry yeard-hungry
ever-angry Lisnagry scavengry yird-hungry
fenegry losengry Schtschigry Ymagry
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Re: Unofficial Words that End in 'GRY' thread :O

Postby JH999 » Sun Feb 28, 2010 11:23 pm UTC

I also got "aggry" and "puggry"
I suppose it should be changed to "Words that begin in ngry"


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