0195: "Map of the Internet"

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0195: "Map of the Internet"

Postby TheYellowMole » Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:41 am UTC

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Am I supposed to be this confused??

No, you're supposed to post a link.

http://xkcd.com/c195.html

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Postby aldimond » Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:48 am UTC

Whee, I'm over in the 69 block, next-door to flickr. I've never been to flickr. Maybe I will, now that I know it's so close!

(Edit: that's the "Earth" block if you are into nambers)
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Postby Jack Saladin » Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:49 am UTC

Where's XKCD?

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Postby Peshmerga » Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:57 am UTC

Interesting D:
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Postby TheYellowMole » Mon Dec 11, 2006 5:59 am UTC

Saladin wrote:Where's XKCD?

XKCD:74.52.112.162

They're on there in block 74.

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Postby Relsqui » Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:19 am UTC

I'm over in Google's neighborhood, the 64 block. I now want a poster of this on my wall with a "YOU ARE HERE" sticker placed appropriately. It should probably be in a re-stickable form, though, since I anticipate my IP changing in the forseeable future.

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Postby Twasbrillig » Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:49 am UTC

Hoo-ray for being called "various"

Any chance of changing block 192 to "the coolest people in the world"?

Hehe.

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Postby aldimond » Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:57 am UTC

Twasbrillig wrote:Any chance of changing block 192 to "the coolest people in the world"?


Only if you mean *my* block 192.

petey, doug, flytrap, montana and talkingcookie, you're the bestest!
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Postby rgsteele » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:21 am UTC

Interesting application of a Hilbert curve.

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Postby Relsqui » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:26 am UTC

The Armory is in 192 also--it actually lives on a fairly large chunk of it for a private residence.

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Postby Nentuaby » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:29 am UTC

Heh... Sorry to those who think they're 192, but that's probably not your internet address. It's a commonl address for internal use on LANs; almost all Windows based LANs use it. :P

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Postby Twasbrillig » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:39 am UTC

Oh, touche. So my ip address, not my static... right. Kind of feel really stupid right now.

So how come I'm in with "Cable TV"?

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Postby aldimond » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:43 am UTC

Twasbrillig wrote:Oh, touche. So my ip address, not my static... right. Kind of feel really stupid right now.

So how come I'm in with "Cable TV"?


You totally could have rolled with it! I thought that you knew that 192 was private all along!
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Postby wisnij » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:36 am UTC

Absolutely beautiful. This is the best visualization of the IP address space I've seen. It's totally going up on the wall of my cube at work. Now we just need to turn it into some sort of webgizmo that can dynamically plot named sites based on their IP.

Also, we need an implementation in cake form. Who knows how to bake and decorate them?
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Postby macronencer » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:47 am UTC

Stunning.

I'm in the very bottom left corner, by the way. Always knew I was far out, man.

/me waves

Update: hey, I just noticed! bottom left and right are 85 and 170, which are 01010101 and 10101010. The reason for this must be a property of the curve, I suppose.
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Postby hyperion » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:59 am UTC

macronencer wrote:hey, I just noticed! bottom left and right are 85 and 170, which are 01010101 and 10101010. The reason for this must be a property of the curve, I suppose.


how did you 'just notice' that? your binary skillz must be first-rate
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Postby Hawknc » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:04 am UTC

He's too 10100111001 for me. :(

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Postby rs180216 » Mon Dec 11, 2006 9:29 am UTC

alright
someone please explain all of this to me.
well if one individual can't
people please explain all of this to me.
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Postby skeptical scientist » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:05 am UTC

Hawknc wrote:He's too 10100111001 for me. :(

I think you meant "1010011101".

rs180216:
IP addresses are the numbers used to locate any given computer (or other network device) in cyberspace. Every computer has one, from your own PC to google.com. An IP address is a sequence of four numbers, like 216.239.37.99, and you can go to websites if you know the IP of the computer they're hosted on by just surfing to the IP, like so: http://216.239.37.99. The URL provides another means of locating a given website, but every computer has an IP even if they have no URL. This map is simply a map of the first number, and what groups use it, or if it hasn't been assigned yet. (This is the part I know less about, so if anyone notices a mistake, please correct it.)

Now the first numbers in the IP, being numbers between between 0 and 255, can naturally be arranged in a linear fashion, but maps work much better as 2d representations. There are many ways of going from 1 to 2 dimensions, but the one used here is called a Hilbert curve (really it's an approximation to a Hilbert curve), which is a space-filling curve - a continuous map from a line to a region of the plane which encounters every point in the plane. Hilbert curves are useful because they are continuous (they map nearby points to nearby points, and as a result they map connected sets to connected sets) and yet still somehow manage to increase the dimension of the image. They have various applications including computer graphics (e.g. dithering) and also can be used to solve certain problems efficiently, or, in this case, to give a sensible way of representing 1 dimensional information in two dimensions.
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Postby Ephphatha » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:47 am UTC

skeptical scientist wrote:
Hawknc wrote:He's too 10100111001 for me. :(

I think you meant "1010011101".
I think you meant "10100111001".

Edit: Also, the comic is using IPv4. IPv6 is a different system which is a little bit more confusing and much much more diverse.
Maybe I should've looked it up first...
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Postby torne » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:49 am UTC

Nentuaby wrote:Heh... Sorry to those who think they're 192, but that's probably not your internet address. It's a commonl address for internal use on LANs; almost all Windows based LANs use it. :P

The Armory, referred to above, is actually on 192 - their webserver is 192.122.209.28. Only networks beginning 192.168 are private - 192.anythingelse is a perfectly good public IP. Maybe it does include all the coolest people in the world, who can tell? :)

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Postby Hawknc » Mon Dec 11, 2006 11:54 am UTC

You may both be right about the translation, I can't be bothered working it out again. :P

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Postby macronencer » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:11 pm UTC

HYPERiON wrote:
macronencer wrote:hey, I just noticed! bottom left and right are 85 and 170, which are 01010101 and 10101010. The reason for this must be a property of the curve, I suppose.


how did you 'just notice' that? your binary skillz must be first-rate


They are pretty good, but some numbers jump out at me because the bits form interesting patterns. This is mainly due to constructing user-defined 8x8 bitmap characters for the Commodore PET in the early 1980s. Yes, I'm THAT old... :shock:
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Postby athelas » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:13 pm UTC

How does one go about finding one's own IP address?

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Postby Hawknc » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:25 pm UTC

cmd > ipconfig...unless you're behind a router, in which case just get a mod to check for you. :P Or, you could just go here.

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Postby thomasjmaccoll » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:48 pm UTC

representin' block 84, europe area.

i loved this comic... it taught me something i had wondered about, left me more questions to explore, and is a really cool and creative way of displaying all this...
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Postby LSK » Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:32 pm UTC

Now that we have a map, we could use a wargame to play on it. Seriously.

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Postby liquidplasmaflow » Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:33 pm UTC

Ephphatha wrote:Edit: Also, the comic is using IPv4. IPv5 is a different system which is a little bit more confusing and much much more diverse.
I think you meant IPv6 :wink:

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Postby ohki » Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:58 pm UTC

block 198 here... up in the far north-eastern reaches of known internet
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Postby Sonic# » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:16 pm UTC

Woo, party in block160 with... Sony! Hm, I'm pretty far out there.

I like looking at it kind of like a world map from an RPG or something... you have the overdeveloped northwestern continent, the desert continent I'm on, the rival state above... and the green spots are water. ^_^

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Postby ERTW » Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:17 pm UTC

Is it sad that I'm thinking somebody ought to set up a flickr map type dealy so we can all tag ourselves by subnet? :p

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Postby arof » Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:32 pm UTC

Just a note: While they won't show up outside of the network (and therefore kinda don't matter), large portions of 5.* have been sat on by the people over at Hamachi. Not true internet IP's due to the way that system works, but just worth pointing out.

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Postby beinsane » Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:49 pm UTC

18, represent!
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Postby Grincement » Mon Dec 11, 2006 6:52 pm UTC

83, present and correct *salutes*
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Postby thomasjmaccoll » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:09 pm UTC

Squeak wrote:83, present and correct *salutes*


we're neighbours :)

i'll try and keep it down at night if i'm having a party...
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Postby rs180216 » Mon Dec 11, 2006 7:10 pm UTC

THANKS FOR THE INFO!!

and also
128 :)

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Postby Grincement » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:35 pm UTC

thomasjmaccoll wrote:
we're neighbours :)

i'll try and keep it down at night if i'm having a party...


I would hope you'd be inviting me to any parties!!
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Postby Vandole » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:51 pm UTC

69 for the win! Neighbouring on flickr, and xkcd is just a couple away. Clearly prime real estate.

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Postby william » Mon Dec 11, 2006 8:52 pm UTC

24 here, nice and round!
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