0195: "Map of the Internet"

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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby Annaleewe » Sat Oct 27, 2007 9:31 am UTC

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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby adamfurry » Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:23 pm UTC

There's another page with an internet map that was just linked from Fark.

http://thewholeinternet.wordtothewise.com/?iref=mpstoryview

They give props to xkcd on this one as well. Has a nice feature of being able to zoom in and drag it around like Google Maps.

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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby FractalNinja » Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:39 am UTC

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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby matthijs » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:34 pm UTC

I was in a lecture today, where our professor actually used this comic to illustrate the assignment of IPv4 addresses. I could instantly recognize the other XKCD readers, because around six people in the classroom started laughing out loud when the sheet was shown.

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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby kaztiyo » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:02 pm UTC

where's Mexico?
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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby Elenion » Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:50 pm UTC

I'm 84, down in Europe:)

I have a question though, block 32 is tagged NORSK. Now "norsk" in Norwegian means exactly that: "Norwegian". So is this what it means or is it some American firm that is called NORSK? :)
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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby Kalessin » Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:16 am UTC

From http://spindelnet.dk/mirror/www.ipindex.net/a/indexa.html

32 Norsk Informasjonsteknologi, Norway (NET-NORGESNETT)

They must be using netspace to fill in the fjords or something... :'D

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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby Elenion » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:14 pm UTC

Cool,thats what I thought but wanted to be sure:)
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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby Red Hal » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:25 pm UTC

It was through slashdot that I found this comic a year ago, and by extension the rest of XKCD. The idea of using a Hilbert curve to represent the uni-dimensional IPv4 address space in two dimensions has an elegance that appeals to me in great measure.

Along with the concept of using an ellipsoidal reflector in the bedroom, there is a mathematical ingenuity about this comic that holds a deeper beauty than just "whoa, cool".

This is still my favourite xkcd; although "Network" comes a close second.
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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby Eleyras » Sun Dec 02, 2007 7:04 am UTC

matthijs wrote:I was in a lecture today, where our professor actually used this comic to illustrate the assignment of IPv4 addresses. I could instantly recognize the other XKCD readers, because around six people in the classroom started laughing out loud when the sheet was shown.

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God, I wish I had a lecturer this cool :( Although, I'll have the opportunity to do this myself, I'm using the online communities one as an example of what's in the internet culture.
At some point, I will remember to sig quotes I find amusing or something.

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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby amddude » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:16 am UTC

Im in 12! w00t!

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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby seconskin552 » Mon Jul 28, 2008 1:47 am UTC

12.157.99.181

So where exactly does that put me?

*EDIT- Aha, router. Still don't know what y IP address really is.

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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby westsurfer » Mon Jul 28, 2008 9:51 pm UTC

Anyone ever wonder why the internet went from IPv4 to IPv6? Where the hell is IPv5??

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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby Random832 » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:04 pm UTC

westsurfer wrote:Anyone ever wonder why the internet went from IPv4 to IPv6? Where the hell is IPv5??

Version number mixup.

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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby Exenon » Tue Jul 29, 2008 3:32 pm UTC

That is one of the most confusing things in the internet, which is already rather confusing... But now it's too late to get it right again. Sad sad story :wink: .



amddude wrote:Still don't know what y IP address really is.

Your IP is basically your address in the internet. Its just like a real address, its unique and its used to send data from a server on whatsoever to your computer. Look it up on Wikipdia !
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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby method » Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:54 pm UTC

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Postby ory-hara » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:48 am UTC

I was looking through the old comics and I came upon these.
http://xkcd.com/195/
http://xkcd.com/256

I was just wondereing, where is the porn continent ?






I looked for another thread like this but could not find one.
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Postby Julien » Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:14 pm UTC

In your pants.
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Re: Online Communities

Postby sargeras0000 » Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:49 pm UTC

There is no porn continent. It's the porn atmosphere: always there, and you couldn't survive without it.

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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby Yakk » Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:23 pm UTC

So, I had a thought. Has anyone implemented visual tracert using this map?
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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby TheTedinator » Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:57 pm UTC

I'm just south of flickr!

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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby udha » Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:22 am UTC

As many of us likely know, IPv4 consumption projection indicates that we will have allocated all available blocks from IANA to RIRs by approximatly 2011-2012. It will not be much longer after that that RIRs have exhausted their last pool of allocated IPs to end users and businesses.

IANA IPv4 first /8 allocations to RIR customers between 1983-2005
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http://www.caida.org/research/id-consumption/ipv4/exhaustion.xml
While this chart from 2005 was a little premature, it's image is closely reflecting the imminent truth of the matter, we will be out of assignable IPv4 /8 blocks within approximately 24 months. That's not taking in to account that great efforts in recent years have been made to lengthen our use of currently assigned addresses by various means. Some organisations and ISPs are allocating previously public ip allocations with private subnets and using NAT and PAT to translate those addresses from hundreds to thousands of privately classed machines to an internet connection. Many 3G wireless connections are privately assigned which limits the usefulness of the connection. Other companies have audited and reorganised their wasteful use of existing allocations, rather than requesting further assignments.

So in short, in just the 3~4 years since this XKCD Map of the Internet was made, the unallocated blocks have shrunk rapidly, leaving much less green grass on the field for play. I was wondering how we could get Randall to revisit this theme, and create another "Map of the Internet: Allocate This" or similar - you get the point.

I really think it would be a great comparison and may wake up a few additional people on the really short time we have left on the Internet as we know it. IPv6 won't mean anything to the average Joe, and I think most people will know nothing more about it except that they may have to replace an old home router or something, without knowing truly how late we have left it to make the jump.

For us techs (assuming I'm not alone here) learning new prefixes to replace the old and familiar slash and subnet notations, private ranges 192.168/16, 172.16/12, and 10/8, localhost range 127/8, and the highly misunderstood link-local range 169.254/16 is not a trivial matter. With IPv6 equivalents being not only more complex, but also of course being unfamiliar, even simple tasks that were done almost on reflex before, are now not so simple. I am sure there will be many who simply get left behind in the fray. The reality is it's not all that difficult, but just by being different, and therefor unfamiliar, I know has already scared off many others I know.

Bonus points if he can map to say /48s or something with IPv6 as well :D

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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby Zanthra » Sun Jun 27, 2010 11:03 pm UTC

I was very curious about the fractal mapping used in this comic. My google fu is not good enough to find any reference to it, and I want to understand more about it. If you have a link or a reference of some kind about it I would really appreciate it.

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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby Ouch.jars » Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:47 pm UTC

I'm in 219, next door to MySpace. I've been unable to get them to turn down their music, though.
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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby Yakk » Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:13 am UTC

Zanthra wrote:I was very curious about the fractal mapping used in this comic. My google fu is not good enough to find any reference to it, and I want to understand more about it. If you have a link or a reference of some kind about it I would really appreciate it.

What do you know about it (the mapping)?

And what kind of thing do you want to know about it?

I mean, there isn't much to say, is there?
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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby ritvax » Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:46 pm UTC

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Re: 0195: "Map of the Internet"

Postby somebody » Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:41 am UTC

Can randall make up to date version of this ?

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0195: "Map of the Internet"

Postby FA5878 » Wed Jan 26, 2011 1:05 pm UTC

You know i was wondering...

With the ARPAgeddon about a week away (http://twitter.com/IPv4Countdown) maybe this comic should be given an update?
http://www.xkcd.com/195

Also apologies for simply putting in urls, it seems I don't have permissions for BBCode just yet?

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Re: "Map of the Internet" Discussion

Postby WolfieMario » Sat Jan 29, 2011 1:55 am UTC

Zanthra wrote:I was very curious about the fractal mapping used in this comic. My google fu is not good enough to find any reference to it, and I want to understand more about it. If you have a link or a reference of some kind about it I would really appreciate it.

Unfortunately, being a new member, I cannot post a link, but I read a little of the Wikipedia article on it some time before I saw this comic. You can find out more in the Wikipedia article "Space-filling curve", and the specific article for the fractal Randall used is the "Hilbert curve". I'll edit this post later (once I get the ability to post links/images) with an image of a "roadmap" I traced of the fractal along Randall's map. It looks the same as the 4th generation of the Hilbert curve animation the Wikipedia article shows, rotated 90° clockwise.
EDIT: I can post links and images now :D
Here's my "roadmap" to Randall's map:
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And here's the 4th-generation Hilbert curve, rotated 90° clockwise, from the Wikipedia article:
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Re: 0195: "Map of the Internet"

Postby hstenzel » Tue Feb 01, 2011 3:42 pm UTC

Now that the end-of-time protocol has been activated (INANA has assigned the last of the address blocks to the regional authorities), perhaps it's time for an update?

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Re: 0195: "Map of the Internet"

Postby happosai » Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:44 pm UTC

hstenzel wrote:Now that the end-of-time protocol has been activated (INANA has assigned the last of the address blocks to the regional authorities), perhaps it's time for an update?


When you said that, we didn't know how the last five would get distributed. Now the "final five" blocks have now been allocated:

102/8 AfriNIC
103/8 APNIC
104/8 ARIN
179/8 LACNIC
185/8 RIPE

Notice that compared to the original 0195, other changes than "fill the green" have happened. For example interop returned 49/8 which now APNIC.

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Re: 0195: "Map of the Internet"

Postby oracle989 » Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:24 pm UTC

Let us sing and be merry as large swatches of internet go dark around us in 6 months from a lack of IPv6 compliance! Dance as it goes down in flames!

(Yeah, I know they've still got a few tricks up their sleeves to stretch it out on IPv4)
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Re: 0195: "Map of the Internet"

Postby digory » Sat Feb 26, 2011 8:46 am UTC

I used the same procedure to make a map of the Bible, here it is: http://m1352.blogspot.com/2011/02/map-of-bible.html

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Re: 0195: "Map of the Internet"

Postby JiminP » Sat Apr 16, 2011 2:04 pm UTC

This is my version of the map of the Internet : http://puu.sh/1AU7
It uses same mapping, and the color means two-letter of country.
Color is generated from this calculation : R = 4~5th letter in MD5 hash, G = 7~8th letter in MD5 hash, B = 10~11th letter in MD5 hash/

For example, US have color #6f43da, because md5(US) = 7516fd43adaa5e0b8a65a672c39845d2.

The black(#000000) area is IPs which country is unknown or doesn't exist, for example, 127.0.0.0/24.

However, since I look-up'd IP-to-Country DB too much (and I couldn't make my own DB using sql file because of 300s time limit), the server 'banned' me for 8 hours. :( That's why it's blank from 157.0.0.0/24. I will complete this map later..
Tiny thing in 210.0.0.0/24 block is for test.

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Re: 0195: "Map of the Internet"

Postby AvatarIII » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:27 pm UTC

my ip block is "2" apparently, is this map really out of date now?

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Re: 0195: "Map of the Internet"

Postby Ephemeron » Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:01 am UTC

Greetings, fellow forumites. I have made an updated version of comic 195. It seems the years have not been kind to IPv4. Every block has been allocated, except the last 16, which are reserved for future use. The source of my information is here, by the way. It's basically an updated version of the same infographic, except neater and with color-coding.

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To compare, you can open both versions in two tabs, and flick between them.

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I just completed the map.

Postby JiminP » Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:34 am UTC

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I changed color - it's made from first 6 letter from SHA256 hash. For example, US -> 9b202ecbc6d45... -> #9B202E.
Black means "no country" (country code : XX or ZZ), and white means "unknown country".
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Re: 0195: "Map of the Internet"

Postby sararielle » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:56 pm UTC

I love this comic but at this point it's about 7 years old. Is there any chance of an updated version being created? It would make an incredible poster to put up in my classroom, but the 2006 version is a poor representation of the current state of IPv4.

Thanks!!

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Re: 0195: "Map of the Internet"

Postby Yakk » Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:20 pm UTC

Did you read the post 2 above yours?
One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision - BR

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Re: 0195: "Map of the Internet"

Postby sararielle » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:51 pm UTC

Yakk wrote:Did you read the post 2 above yours?


No I didn't see it. Thanks so much! It's exactly what I need! :D


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