0248: "Hypotheticals"

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0248: "Hypotheticals"

Postby Phi » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:16 am UTC

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http://xkcd.com/c248.html
Alt. text: What if someone broke out of a hypothetical situation in your room right now?

This reminds me of one time when one of my friends randomly said "I've got a weird thought. What if there were no hypothetical situations?"

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Postby hezekiah » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:18 am UTC

If only I had been a little quicker... I had it all set to post (and properly formatted, to boot)... but, here's what I had said:


First reaction, this seems like a concept similar to that of comic 244... nested worlds coming back to haunt you. Assuming you call daydream-land a world, that is.

I'm sure everybody's done something like this at some point; wishing that something you dream of would happen. That's the whole point of a dream, isn't it?

Also, what if this wasn't my first post :)

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Postby Phi » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:24 am UTC

hezekiah wrote:Also, what if this wasn't my first post :)

Then you wouldn't need to go to the Introductions Thread? :D

[The comic you referred to] didn't really remind me of that comic because it wasn't really a "What if?" type of thing before. It was just a "You just flooded Earth. I hate you so much." type of a thing using DnD items.

Not every dream is something I'd like to actually do. I've done some stuff in my dreams (dying, for example) that I would rather not experience. Though you did make a valid point, a lot of my dreams I would love to do (Cuddly dreams, where art thou?).

(Edit: Changed to make it look better, I suppose. Took out explanation stuff.)
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Postby hezekiah » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:31 am UTC

What if I already went there? 8)

Yeah, you had already edited by the time I made my post, and I was all like, "shit." Anyway, meh.

Night-dreams, yeah, I can see not wanting those to all come true. The comic's more about daydreams, though, which are a lot more under our control, a lot more likely to be things we want.

Also, anti-Hat Man?

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Postby thefiddler » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:34 am UTC

Gah. I edited the link for you before I saw that other people had posted about it.

Anyways, I've wondered about hypothetical situations before, too. But... *shrug*

What if it wasn't really me who edited your post? :shock:

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Postby OneLess » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:44 am UTC

The last part of the cartoon reminded me of the Subtle Knife. What if that were real? Kick-ass...

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Postby offput » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:44 am UTC

Am I the only one who gets stuck in day dreams? I'll be daydreaming something painfully boring and repetitive and I'll try to force the me in my daydream to stop doing it but he doesn't. Man that's annoying. Also scary if I'm the only one to which that happens.

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Postby TwilightWonder » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:55 am UTC

Now I'm looking over my shoulder every two minutes to check if someone is breaking out of a hypothetical situation...

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Postby a thing » Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:03 am UTC

ROFL! Best xkcd in a while.

What if the person with the French hat (damn lethologica, there's a word for it) had a knife?
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Postby iw » Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:04 am UTC

But...but... you get ICE CREAM in a hypothetical!

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Postby Belial » Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:11 am UTC

What if the person with the French hat (damn lethologica, there's a word for it)


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Re: "Hypotheticals" discussion

Postby yy2bggggs » Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:15 am UTC

All that work, and they still didn't manage to break the fourth wall.

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Postby Solt » Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:59 am UTC

hezekiah wrote:I'm sure everybody's done something like this at some point; wishing that something you dream of would happen. That's the whole point of a dream, isn't it?



I wonder, if one of my dream worlds became my reality, what would I dream about?
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Brilliant

Postby luqui » Fri Apr 13, 2007 6:29 am UTC

This is an amazingly cool comic. It's beautiful, in a mathematical sort of way.

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Postby wisnij » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:29 am UTC

hezekiah wrote:First reaction, this seems like a concept similar to that of comic 244... nested worlds coming back to haunt you. Assuming you call daydream-land a world, that is.

Except the elves don't use their swords to breach the walls of reality and run back up the hypothetical-situation call stack. (Although that would be pretty badass. Instant LARP?)

My first reaction: anyone who doesn't find "Hypotheticals" completely awesome in at least three different ways is dead to me. :P
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Re: "Hypotheticals" discussion

Postby spacedman » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:51 am UTC

Phi wrote:This reminds me of one time when one of my friends randomly said "I've got a weird thought. What if there were no hypothetical situations?"


Was that friend well-known comic Steven Wright? I think he said it first...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steven_Wright

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Postby Toeofdoom » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:00 am UTC

STOP KILLIGN MY BRAIN!!! AAAAAGHAQ!!!FFAS

hehehe...

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Postby ArchangelShrike » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:21 am UTC

Right now I'm waiting for my gf to bust into the room... from thousands of miles away.

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Postby Rocco » Fri Apr 13, 2007 8:55 am UTC

ArchangelShrike wrote:Right now I'm waiting for my gf to bust into the room... from thousands of miles away.


What if I had a girlfriend?

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Postby jonas » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:14 am UTC

This reminds me to the part in Hofstadter's Gödel, Escher, Bach about hypothetical situations.

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Postby Frenchy » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:56 am UTC

Brain...hurt...

Interesting idea, I love the alt-text

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Postby Ronfar » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:13 am UTC

OneLess wrote:The last part of the cartoon reminded me of the Subtle Knife. What if that were real? Kick-ass...


Spoilers...

But would you really want those shadows running around everywhere?
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Postby fjafjan » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:23 am UTC

Ronfar wrote:
OneLess wrote:The last part of the cartoon reminded me of the Subtle Knife. What if that were real? Kick-ass...


Spoilers...

But would you really want those shadows running around everywhere?


Well that's just in that one world!
Screw them :P


Also, that ending is sad :/
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Postby ArchangelShrike » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:32 am UTC

What if you had a girlfriend-hating kitty? Does the kitty in your room cancel out the girlfriend?

And your jacket is on the chair, where you left it.

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Re: "Hypotheticals" discussion

Postby Wires » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:29 am UTC

yy2bggggs wrote:All that work, and they still didn't manage to break the fourth wall.

Best example of fourth wall breaking:
http://stickman.qntm.org/comics.php?n=614

And also, what if the hypothetical guy managed to break out into the real world? Would there be two of him? And what if the guy I'm imagining doing that is standing behind me with the knife?

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Postby Kin » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:33 am UTC

What if hypothetical icecream doesn't taste as fulfilling..>? Do hypothetical beings get hungry? (Edit: Not that you need hunger for ice cream.mm!)


Very nice comic today.

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Postby spm » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:26 pm UTC

Suppose I posted a reply to this thread. What would it say? I wonder if it would say something like: Suppose I posted a reply to...

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Postby Iluvatar » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:36 pm UTC

Recursive daydreaming for the win.

Were it really possible to travel the daydream call stack, you'd have lots of naked women bursting into reality during trig classes.
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Postby smocc » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:39 pm UTC

This is definitely one of my favorites now. Just my kind of humour :D
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Re: "Hypotheticals" discussion

Postby skeptical scientist » Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:09 pm UTC

Randall Munroe wrote:What if someone broke out of a hypothetical situation in your room right now?

No, you can't do that! You're mixing levels! The whole hierarchy will collapse, leading to endless self-contradiction!
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Postby Patashu » Fri Apr 13, 2007 1:52 pm UTC

This is one of those ridiculously mind-blowing comics.

After some contemplation I have decided I love it.

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Postby space_raptor » Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:19 pm UTC

I am too hung over to think about recursive hypothetical situations right now. Recursiveness makes my brain hurt.
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Postby UserGoogol » Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:29 pm UTC

This made me think of Gödel, Escher, Bach; although I had been aware of the idea of nested thought balloons many years prior to reading that. (Including the idea of being within ones own thought balloon, although that requires some delicate work.) It's a good book.

(Hmm. A comic book version of Gödel, Escher, Bach would be fucking hardcore if it could be pulled off right.)

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Postby DeadCatX2 » Fri Apr 13, 2007 2:40 pm UTC

a thing wrote:What if the person with the French hat (damn lethologica, there's a word for it) had a knife?


I think he'd cut off someone's hand.


Iluvatar wrote:Were it really possible to travel the daydream call stack, you'd have lots of naked women bursting into reality during trig classes.


What if you wrapped the naked women in a NakedWomenException object and threw it? If there's no exception handling code, then it should make it all the way to the top of the call stack.

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Postby Hawknc » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:21 pm UTC

DeadCatX2 wrote:
a thing wrote:What if the person with the French hat (damn lethologica, there's a word for it) had a knife?


I think he'd cut off someone's hand.

Beret != top hat.

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Postby joeythehobo » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:33 pm UTC

Genius. Though it does seem similar to the comic about nested D&D games. I think this one is far more imaginary.

The alt text made me look over my shoulder.
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Postby Workaphobia » Fri Apr 13, 2007 4:36 pm UTC

Easily the most surreal thing I've seen since the last xkcd of a similar topic. Bravo.

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Postby scwizard » Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:56 pm UTC

Ya, recursion is awesome :)
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Postby Anoria » Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:59 pm UTC

fjafjan wrote:
Ronfar wrote:
OneLess wrote:The last part of the cartoon reminded me of the Subtle Knife. What if that were real? Kick-ass...


Spoilers...

But would you really want those shadows running around everywhere?


Well that's just in that one world!
Screw them :P


Also, that ending is sad :/

The subtle knife was the first thing I thought of, before I even had time to read all the words in the comic. I love you all. Three. Whatever.

Also, spoilery, /s/shadows/specters. I'd quite like to have more shadow particles running around.

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Postby Artemis Leon » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:05 pm UTC

I wish my hypothetical selves were as helpful as the knife-guy. I might be able to find my cell-phone, then. . .


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