0634: "Date"

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby lu6cifer » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:34 am UTC

wheee! I was in AP bio while reading this :)
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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Felstaff » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:34 am UTC

Giant Speck wrote:For some reason, I don't like his use of the word disintegrate. I think degenerate or deteriorate would have been better word choices.

But that's just me...

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby SirMustapha » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:35 am UTC

They're talking about making kids.

Making kids.

MAKING kids.



Seriously, what planet is Randall living in?



(also, thanks for the caption at the botton -- every joke totally needs explaining at the end so the dumb masses will get it)

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Squid Tamer » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:41 am UTC

But if they have a red-head on the second try, what happens to the first kid? Will he forever be treated the inferior of the two? The "Not what we wanted" kid?

These are powerful forces we're dealing with.

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Giant Speck » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:55 am UTC

Felstaff wrote:
Giant Speck wrote:For some reason, I don't like his use of the word disintegrate. I think degenerate or deteriorate would have been better word choices.

But that's just me...

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The word itself doesn't annoy me; it's the fact he chose that word that annoys me. Disintegrate just doesn't sound right.
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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Mental Mouse » Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:04 pm UTC

Yeah, color-blindness wasn't the best line for the guy... his father is irrelevant, and it just means that his daughters will all be carriers, while his sons will be unaffected. Yep, my own dad was colorblind, while I got the "artists eyes" from Mom's side of the family. Perfect color vision, baby!

Red hair is trickier -- as I understand it, the usual form is a mixed-dominance allele, where one-out-of-two gives a paler color, such as strawberry blond or auburn. (But possibly still red freckles.) But that also gets overlaid by the "regular" melanin phenotype, so if that would be dark, you get chestnut (brunette) or black with red highlights. And eye color is even trickier -- the "brown over blue" story is just a fragment of the possibilities.

Shoulda stuck with earlobes and tongue curling, or maybe the "taster" genes. ("50% chance of a cabbage fan." "uh-oh...".)

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby blubloblu » Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:55 pm UTC

Anyone else really perturbed by the rounded corners of the panel?

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Yarram » Wed Sep 09, 2009 1:01 pm UTC

I'm confused why everyones commenting on the mis-logic behind a person who's parents are colourblind (Which coincidently automatically means that the child is colourblind, because colourblindness is an X chromosome trait, which while coincidently meaning that all male children who are colourblind won't have had the colourblindness passed on from their father, and all girls must have a father who's colourblind, and a mother who is at the very least, a carrier of the colourblind gene, because colourblindness is not a dominant trait, so both chromosones need it for a girl to be colourblind, which automatically means any son of a colourblind woman will be colourblind... But I'm sure we were all aware of this, I was just reiterating for the purpose of my statement. (The irony is that this explanation will take longer than the actual statement)) and not on the fact that the comic strip is funnier because of the irony included because of a colourblindness not allowing us to see red and green properly. Why assume that the man must have some other disorder when it's funnier because of the illogic?

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby OCEAT » Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:12 pm UTC

I liked it. I could see myself and a friend doing this on a bored Friday afternoon, though we're not dating.
Also, yea, in XKCDland (is it a place? Or a satellite floating through space?) people make babies. See: "Sweet! We made a baby!"
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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Simon17 » Wed Sep 09, 2009 2:28 pm UTC

Red Hal: I was not feigning apathy. I just wanted everyone to be aware of my geek credentials, since nudity is such a big part of geek culture. I didn't want people to think that I disliked the comic simply because I am not part of "Xkcd's" target audience.

Also is it common among assholes to use a bunch of big words they learned in college to makeselves look smarter on the internet.
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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby SirMustapha » Wed Sep 09, 2009 3:20 pm UTC

OCEAT wrote:Also, yea, in XKCDland (is it a place? Or a satellite floating through space?) people make babies. See: "Sweet! We made a baby!"


Okay, well, I thought the point of that was to highlight the absolute nadir of parental ineptitude.
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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Invertin » Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:19 pm UTC

Mental Mouse wrote:Yeah, color-blindness wasn't the best line for the guy... his father is irrelevant, and it just means that his daughters will all be carriers, while his sons will be unaffected. Yep, my own dad was colorblind, while I got the "artists eyes" from Mom's side of the family. Perfect color vision, baby!

Well clearly he's thinking about the grandkids.

They've got to be careful tough, green eyes and red hair isn't always a winning combination.

I know a guy who looks like a traffic light.

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Eikinkloster » Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:41 pm UTC

SirMustapha wrote:They're talking about making kids.

Seriously, what planet is Randall living in?


Ninhursag. That's the planet where all geniuses live, regardless of them knowing it or not.
Terra is such a bore.

(also, thanks for the caption at the botton -- every joke totally needs explaining at the end so the dumb masses will get it)


I don't think he was explaining the joke. His afterthoughts on the comics seem to be his attempt at capitalizing on the joke. It works fine for me.
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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby sircheeziusbreezius » Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:57 pm UTC

it strikes me as odd that so many people are saying they did this in high school.
this was 7th grade stuff for me and punnett squares where nowhere to be found in my high school bio..
good comic for a quick laugh though

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Jamaican Castle » Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:48 pm UTC

sircheeziusbreezius wrote:
Caffeinated wrote:Tell me I'm not the only girl that sits home at night and maps out the genetics of my ideal mate.

i hope that you are the only girl who does this, and that i am the only guy who does this.
then there is no question as to who we belong with...

...but what if you're genetically, um... unideal? :shock:

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby umop ap!sdn » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:01 pm UTC

Squid Tamer wrote:But if they have a red-head on the second try, what happens to the first kid? Will he forever be treated the inferior of the two? The "Not what we wanted" kid?

These are powerful forces we're dealing with.

Well as long as they keep the receipt, it shouldn't be a problem.

Interesting that the "red headed step child' is desirable in this situation.
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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Gero » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:10 pm UTC

root wrote:alt-text: Well, the kid's definitely getting the biology geek phenotype.


That's one of my phenotypes too. The gene for it must be recessive cause neither my parents show even a little.

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Omegaton » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:11 pm UTC

Yarram wrote:I'm confused why everyones commenting on the mis-logic behind a person who's parents are colourblind (Which coincidently automatically means that the child is colourblind, because colourblindness is an X chromosome trait, which while coincidently meaning that all male children who are colourblind won't have had the colourblindness passed on from their father, and all girls must have a father who's colourblind, and a mother who is at the very least, a carrier of the colourblind gene, because colourblindness is not a dominant trait, so both chromosones need it for a girl to be colourblind, which automatically means any son of a colourblind woman will be colourblind... But I'm sure we were all aware of this, I was just reiterating for the purpose of my statement. (The irony is that this explanation will take longer than the actual statement)) and not on the fact that the comic strip is funnier because of the irony included because of a colourblindness not allowing us to see red and green properly. Why assume that the man must have some other disorder when it's funnier because of the illogic?

Hey, Randall only gives us biologists the occasional xkcd comic to criticize, let us have our fun. :D

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby dennisw » Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:17 pm UTC

Al-pocalypse wrote:A truely 'Get out of my head Randall' moment!

My girlfriend and I were actually doing this last night! And figured out that with our mix of genetics that almost anything is possible in our offspring! I dread to think what the results will eventually be!


Perhaps your avatar provides a clue? :wink:
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Postby sircheeziusbreezius » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:10 pm UTC

Jamaican Castle wrote:...but what if you're genetically, um... unideal? :shock:

surgery lololol
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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby obituary » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:26 pm UTC

i dont think gingers are adorable.

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby SirMustapha » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:41 pm UTC

Eikinkloster wrote:
SirMustapha wrote:They're talking about making kids.

Seriously, what planet is Randall living in?


Ninhursag. That's the planet where all geniuses live, regardless of them knowing it or not.
Terra is such a bore.


If a world is boring for being inhabited by actual human beings, well, I'd rather stay in it; at least here I can HAVE my children.

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby IIAOPSW » Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:57 pm UTC

Giant Speck wrote:For some reason, I don't like his use of the word disintegrate. I think degenerate or deteriorate would have been better word choices.

But that's just me...



i didn't like it either. I would have said digressed.


I had this problem once when i couldn't recall the word decay so i used deteriorate instead. I think randall had the same problem
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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby XbHW_TestEngr » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:24 pm UTC

So, if the biologists were also interested in optometry, would the be searching to see if their child would be macular degenerate?
(that could be really bad)

Squid Tamer wrote:But if they have a red-head on the second try, what happens to the first kid? Will he forever be treated the inferior of the two? The "Not what we wanted" kid?

These are powerful forces we're dealing with.


I resemble that remark.

Mental Mouse wrote:Yeah, color-blindness wasn't the best line for the guy... his father is irrelevant, and it just means that his daughters will all be carriers, while his sons will be unaffected. Yep, my own dad was colorblind, while I got the "artists eyes" from Mom's side of the family. Perfect color vision, baby!

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Shoulda stuck with earlobes and tongue curling, or maybe the "taster" genes. ("50% chance of a cabbage fan." "uh-oh...".)


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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Ekko » Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:58 pm UTC

I initially read the "both my parents were colorblind" as separate from the conversation. It's actually quite funny that way, with the careful planning being totally useless.

Also, if the man is red/green colorblind, he's likely misinterpreting the "redeye" effect on a photograph as green eyes. I'm not sure if it's intentional, but it's funnier if it is.
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Postby SpringLoaded12 » Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:11 pm UTC

quadmaster wrote:Yay genealogy! first p0st!!!!!1!!1! I is so hax
Actually, 8th grade science has left me with an eternal hatred for punnett squares.


Same here. I never understood them, which was infuriating because they looked so simple.

Heh, they're doing natural genetic engineering! Somehow, it's even more inhuman (inhumane?) than artificial genetic engineering.
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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby lalliend » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:26 pm UTC

I do Punnet squares in my head All the time! Heterozygous are more fun than recessives.

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby syko_lozz » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:28 pm UTC

awesome- this is going into todays genetics lecture!
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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby LTK » Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:39 pm UTC

Oh man, I can totally see myself doing this. I have half a mind to organize a speed-genotyping-date at the Life Science faculty to see who can come up with the most interesting family prospects. :P

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Eternal Density » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:29 am UTC

Simon17 wrote:You're absolutely right. How could I have been so stupid? That was just silly. Let me give it another shot:

Eternal Density wrote:An xkcd relating to human reproduction? How novel.
And by novel I mean not novel

I was employing a literary technique known as irony, because I said the opposite of what I meant.
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And the point of replacing my joke with something Randall would do in a comic is what exactly?
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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby quadmaster » Thu Sep 10, 2009 12:37 am UTC

...semi misquote...
that is all
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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Troger64 » Thu Sep 10, 2009 1:54 am UTC

its all fun and game

but i remember a time where my biology-major sister told me she was scoping guys out, making sure they had good genes (ie no glasses, not short...)

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Faranya » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:16 am UTC

SirMustapha wrote:They're talking about making kids.


Yes, yes they are. Because in order to HAVE a child, one first needs to MAKE said child.
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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby SirMustapha » Thu Sep 10, 2009 2:28 am UTC

Faranya wrote:
SirMustapha wrote:They're talking about making kids.


Yes, yes they are. Because in order to HAVE a child, one first needs to MAKE said child.


Yes, and biologists all speak like that, because they're all geeky and scientific like, and they don't speak like actual people. DUDE THAT'S COMEDY GOLD

... you know, one COULD suppose that the bad dialogue is part of the joke, but I'm being led to believe that you don't think so.

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Jenni Nikki » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:27 am UTC

I've done this, sometimes in my head, sometimes with the other person. Even though I date girls. :lol:

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby aldld » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:20 am UTC

blubloblu wrote:Anyone else really perturbed by the rounded corners of the panel?


Yes! I noticed that too! I even went back a few to make sure that it wasn't always like this.

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Kain » Thu Sep 10, 2009 4:44 am UTC

aldld wrote:
blubloblu wrote:Anyone else really perturbed by the rounded corners of the panel?


Yes! I noticed that too! I even went back a few to make sure that it wasn't always like this.


It kinda reminded me of Battlestar Galactica... which in turn made me wonder if Cylonness would be a recesive trait or not.
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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby surreal20 » Thu Sep 10, 2009 7:03 am UTC

I don't know if anyone said anything yet, but a female is unable to be color blind. It's genetic that only males are color blind. Sorry, but it just bothered me that it said that both his parent's were color blind. *twitches*

I still found it funny :)

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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby axtheb » Thu Sep 10, 2009 10:56 am UTC

surreal20 wrote:I don't know if anyone said anything yet, but a female is unable to be color blind. It's genetic that only males are color blind. Sorry, but it just bothered me that it said that both his parent's were color blind. *twitches*

I still found it funny :)


Really? I know at least two color blind girls. One has deuteranomaly and one has tritanomaly.
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Re: "Date" Discussion

Postby Giant Speck » Thu Sep 10, 2009 3:39 pm UTC

Okay, let's say that, though probably very unlikely, they manage to "make" a redheaded, green-eyed, red-green colorblind boy. Would the boy be able to tell much difference between the color of his hair and the color of his eyes? :p
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