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0634: "Date"

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:00 am UTC
by root
Image

alt-text: Well, the kid's definitely getting the biology geek phenotype.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:01 am UTC
by quadmaster
Yay genealogy! first p0st!!!!!1!!1! I is so hax
Actually, 8th grade science has left me with an eternal hatred for punnett squares.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:01 am UTC
by glasnt
I've done this on a first date before. In my head. God damn my dominant genes, it ruins my chances with redheads.

Hi joee.

edit: did anyone else notice the smudging near the text at the bottom of the image? :|

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:03 am UTC
by grapefruit1
We did punnett squares in science today!

My first "Randall, get out of my head!" moment. :D I thought the day would never come.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:05 am UTC
by Comic JK
Great comic! But aren't Punnett Squares a bit simplistic for actual biologists?

If it were me, I would do a full DNA test. After this step, of course.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:06 am UTC
by Omegaton
He must not be talking red-green colorblindess (the most common type), since that's X-linked, and he wouldn't be able to be a "carrier" of it without actually being colorblind.

But I digress, I did find the comic to be amusing.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:07 am UTC
by dasada122
Ya know, if people always did this first, the human race would be vastly improved.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:11 am UTC
by Kain
So if my mom and my sister both had blonde hair that faded to brunette, and my dad has dark brown hair, while I have dark brown hair with quite a bit of red to it, what does that suggest about my genetic likelyhood of having a redhead kid?

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:12 am UTC
by dasada122
Kain wrote:So if my mom and my sister both had blonde hair that faded to brunette, and my dad has dark brown hair, while I have dark brown hair with quite a bit of red to it, what does that suggest about my genetic likelyhood of having a redhead kid?

"If a train leaves Cleveland at 8:00 AM going 50 mph..."

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:13 am UTC
by Kain
dasada122 wrote:
Kain wrote:So if my mom and my sister both had blonde hair that faded to brunette, and my dad has dark brown hair, while I have dark brown hair with quite a bit of red to it, what does that suggest about my genetic likelyhood of having a redhead kid?

"If a train leaves Cleveland at 8:00 AM going 50 mph..."


It will derail before it reaches the next city. Thanks Amtrak.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:14 am UTC
by lazybratsche
Geneticist here -- I laughed. The Punnett squares are a bit simplistic (most real biologists can figure out far more complicated crosses in their heads), but otherwise it holds. This one goes up on my lab bench.

ETA: got burned by the filter. Oh well...

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:14 am UTC
by Omegaton
Kain wrote:So if my mom and my sister both had blonde hair that faded to brunette, and my dad has dark brown hair, while I have dark brown hair with quite a bit of red to it, what does that suggest about my genetic likelyhood of having a redhead kid?

Neither hair color nor eye color are easy Punnett squares to make. I'm fairly certain we don't fully understand all the genes that go into each. Certainly not as easy as green or yellow peas.

Or were you just joking around, as indicated by the above posts?

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:16 am UTC
by psychosomaticism
After dinner the date progresses into going to one of the biologist's houses in order to spend a romantic evening creating cuttlefish. I really like the image that this comic makes for us wacky bio majors.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:18 am UTC
by Simon17
Boring comic. Don't quit your day job, randy.

...Oh shiii-

By the way, since I am the world's biggest geek, I am completely nude right now.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:18 am UTC
by Eternal Density
An xkcd relating to human reproduction? How novel.
And by novel I mean quaint.

I like punnett squares. I wish Darwin had known about them.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:21 am UTC
by Simon17
Eternal Density wrote:An xkcd relating to human reproduction? How novel.
And by novel I mean MORE LIKE SEXKCD.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:27 am UTC
by joee
hey glasnt

i was never a bio person, so I don't get this. But I approve of geeky first dates

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:34 am UTC
by Harmony
I've never done Punnett squares, per se, but I definitely am aware of which genes I'll pass along to my kids as a result of high school biology... I feel sorry for my future kids.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:43 am UTC
by Eternal Density
Simon17 wrote:[misquote="Eternal Density"]An xkcd relating to human reproduction? How novel.
And by novel I mean MORE LIKE SEXKCD.
[/misquote]
That doesn't make grammatical sense. How can one say 'How more like sexkcd'?
Not cool, not funny, not a good post.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:52 am UTC
by Simon17
You're absolutely right. How could I have been so stupid? That was just silly. Let me give it another shot:

Eternal Density wrote:An xkcd relating to human reproduction? How novel.
And by novel I mean not novel

I was employing a literary technique known as irony, because I said the opposite of what I meant.
.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:52 am UTC
by pgn674
I've traveled here from the year 1985 to say this: Again the setup of the comic remminds me of Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal. Not that that's a bad thing, I enjoy SMBC a bunch too. It's just interesting to think I'm noticing an influence in Randal's work here.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 4:59 am UTC
by iabervon
I also noticed that he's failing to note that colorblindness is sex-linked (not to mention that colorblind women are quite rare). And he ought to note what kind of colorblindness he has, since, if he's got protanomoly and she's not colorblind, they could have a tetrachromatic daughter.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:12 am UTC
by phillipsjk
Omegaton wrote:He must not be talking red-green colorblindess (the most common type), since that's X-linked, and he wouldn't be able to be a "carrier" of it without actually being colorblind.

Through talking to other people, stick man can know about the color green even if he can't see it. He can even use a green light to see red writing.*

quadmaster wrote:Yay genealogy! first p0st!!!!!1!!1! I is so hax
Actually, 8th grade science has left me with an eternal hatred for punnett squares.
Last edited by quadmaster on Tue Sep 08, 2009 9:06 pm UTC, edited 2 times in total.

That is all.

*not verified; but red should show up black in green light. Helpful unless they are completely blind to green light.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:12 am UTC
by Max2009
Well, I haven't touched biology weirdness since high school, but I still got this. Better than Monday's but the cheese today was only lightly toasted.
Wow, punnet squares... there's something I 'd hoped never to see again.

glasnt wrote:edit: did anyone else notice the smudging near the text at the bottom of the image? :|

Yeah, I saw that. It looks like Randall had a good idea but erased it in favor of a better one.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:17 am UTC
by eviloatmeal
Trivia: 30% of 30% is 9%. Now you know.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:33 am UTC
by glasnt
pgn674 wrote: Again the setup of the comic remminds me of Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal.

A single frame with dialogue and an interesting caption is a typical style for a Farside comic too, but I doubt it's an influential force on this comic.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:39 am UTC
by astrogirl4242
long time reader first time poster...

need to say: get out of my head randall... like seriously; was doing this in bio today, have my eye on a red head, and have the gene for green eyes...

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:44 am UTC
by dennisw
Kain wrote:So if my mom and my sister both had blonde hair that faded to brunette, and my dad has dark brown hair, while I have dark brown hair with quite a bit of red to it, what does that suggest about my genetic likelyhood of having a redhead kid?


It depends on what color the milkman's is.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:52 am UTC
by scwizard
Joke is too highschool imo.

Was not amused.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 5:52 am UTC
by brakos82
dennisw wrote:
Kain wrote:So if my mom and my sister both had blonde hair that faded to brunette, and my dad has dark brown hair, while I have dark brown hair with quite a bit of red to it, what does that suggest about my genetic likelyhood of having a redhead kid?


It depends on what color the milkman's is.


Oh Snap! lol

The comic gets a 7/10.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:28 am UTC
by Red Hal
I rather liked it, actually. Simon17, Protip: It is a common affect among the young to display studious disinterest or faux ennui. Though an attempt to seem more mature, it usually has the opposite of its intended effect. Also, I have nipples.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:06 am UTC
by Al-pocalypse
A truely 'Get out of my head Randall' moment!

My girlfriend and I were actually doing this last night! And figured out that with our mix of genetics that almost anything is possible in our offspring! I dread to think what the results will eventually be!

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 7:49 am UTC
by Caffeinated
Definitely a 'get out of my head' comic, yes.

Tell me I'm not the only girl that sits home at night and maps out the genetics of my ideal mate.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:26 am UTC
by WholeLottaSean
Red hair and green eyes sounds like Harry Potter's mum. Do these people know that one of their daughters will be a witch? Bet they didn't see that coming, not even with Punnett squares.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 8:29 am UTC
by dedev
"We should mate."

"What?!"

"Date! I said we should date sometime. Socially."

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 9:21 am UTC
by RandAlThor
phillipsjk wrote:Through talking to other people, stick man can know about the color green even if he can't see it. He can even use a green light to see red writing.*

*not verified; but red should show up black in green light. Helpful unless they are completely blind to green light.


Colour blind people can still see reds and greens, you know. They just see them in a slightly different tone to you. There's no actual blindness.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 10:13 am UTC
by fapfapfap
RandAlThor wrote:
phillipsjk wrote:Through talking to other people, stick man can know about the color green even if he can't see it. He can even use a green light to see red writing.*

*not verified; but red should show up black in green light. Helpful unless they are completely blind to green light.


Colour blind people can still see reds and greens, you know. They just see them in a slightly different tone to you. There's no actual blindness.


What he said, I'm colourblind myself, I know. Innit.

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:13 am UTC
by Al-pocalypse
fapfapfap wrote:
RandAlThor wrote:
phillipsjk wrote:Through talking to other people, stick man can know about the color green even if he can't see it. He can even use a green light to see red writing.*

*not verified; but red should show up black in green light. Helpful unless they are completely blind to green light.


Colour blind people can still see reds and greens, you know. They just see them in a slightly different tone to you. There's no actual blindness.


What he said, I'm colourblind myself, I know. Innit.


AFAIK there are different severities of colourblindness. I have a friend who is and he sees reds/greens as 'shades of gray' in his terms. What is interesting though, is the first time he sees a shade of red or green it throws him. but if you describe it too him he can then pick it up next time, which means that he can often tell the colours behind a black and white photograph. Also, strangely, he is very good at telling what colours clash!

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:20 am UTC
by Giant Speck
For some reason, I don't like his use of the word disintegrate. I think degenerate or deteriorate would have been better word choices.

But that's just me...

Re: "Date" Discussion

Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 11:33 am UTC
by CameoAppearance
Clashing colours usually clash because they're too similar to each other (in, uh... value? I think that's it, since it's not hue and it's not saturation), to the best of my knowledge; I find that if two colours I'm using together are clashing, they'll show up as very similar shades of grey in a greyscale'd screenshot.