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Postby Gelsamel » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:18 am UTC

On FF2.0 the first 13 or so quote boxes are definitely in a curved fashion, however from then on it is a linear slope.

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Postby SpitValve » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:23 pm UTC

What Quotes?


Seeing what happens if you extend the sequence

and again:



Yep definitely definitely goes linear. More obvious this time. What difference does removing the text have?

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Postby TheTankengine » Tue Nov 21, 2006 7:36 pm UTC

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Postby Hawknc » Tue Nov 21, 2006 10:13 pm UTC

God damn it, I laughed. Reminds me of first year at university, strangely enough.

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Postby aldimond » Tue Nov 21, 2006 11:46 pm UTC

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OK so what I've shown here is that when the text goes linear the slope is a constant constant. And it goes linear in time to fit the text of the innermost block in there. So the line and the curve aren't tangent at all. Also (and this is not shown, I looked at it in preview), after 29 nested quotes it stops displaying the text "Quote:" correctly and after 30 the text in the box goes away.

This testing done on FF1.5/Windows. YMMV. I'll look at it on FF2.0/Linux with my 1600x1200 monitor when I get home, and probably it will stay curved longer because of the extra width. Wheee!
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Postby Gelsamel » Wed Nov 22, 2006 1:11 am UTC

If that last one is supposed to disappear it doesn't on 1280 x 1024 FF2.0 WinXP Home

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Postby aldimond » Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:44 am UTC

No, not supposed to disappear. If I put in one more layer the word "Quote:" would disappear and another on top of that, the whole word would. Like this:

"Quote" missing


All text missing


This also holds true in FF2.0/Linux. After I post I'll test it in my other browsers 8) . I am so lame.

EDIT: That is really strange, the word "Quote" doesn't disappear, except in preview mode. WTF, mates?

EDIT2: Browser Results

Opera 8.5/Linux: Nothing disappears.
Konq 3.5.2: Nothing disappears.
Links: Nothing disappears.
Lynx: Nothing disappears.

Looks like FF is biting it here. I wonder what IE does (but I don't have it... and I'm not about to screw around with Wine for an hour to make it work. I'm also not about to depth-test the other browsers. I'm not quite that lame.)
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Postby no-genius » Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:33 am UTC

Bot, you triple-spammed. What has come over you lately? Is your work making you stressed? You should try herbal viagra

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Postby Verysillyman » Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:51 am UTC

WTF indeed Mr Spambot!

Go on, clicky the link. I dare you.

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Postby no-genius » Sat Dec 02, 2006 9:32 am UTC

Verysillyman wrote:WTF indeed Mr Spambot!


[Tired joke about how women don't understand computers]Nah, blatantly a lady-bot, sure a guy can double-post, but triple post? Nah.[/Tired joke about how women don't understand computers]
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Postby Peshmerga » Sat Dec 02, 2006 4:26 pm UTC

Clearly sir you are a sexist.
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Postby no-genius » Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:34 pm UTC

Peshmerga wrote:the same, but with irony
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Postby william » Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:28 pm UTC

I think bots are genderless.

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Postby no-genius » Sat Dec 02, 2006 11:34 pm UTC

william wrote:I think bots are genderless.


or are they intersex?
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Postby shine_and_shing » Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:07 am UTC

This is the best progression of topics evAr. I feel kind of silly for reading all of it, but it was worth it.


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shine_and_shing wrote:IT'S SUNDAY Oh me yarm WHY AM I NOT OUT.
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Postby kertrats » Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:16 am UTC

no-genius wrote:AMBIGUOUS QUOTE


This is why we should speak lojban.

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Postby no-genius » Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:36 am UTC

no-genius wrote:UNAMBIGUOUS QUOTE



happy?
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Postby Gelsamel » Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:12 am UTC

no-genius wrote:happy!


I'm pretending to be no-genius

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Postby ohki » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:06 pm UTC

I had to try

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Convergent =P
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Postby aldimond » Sun Dec 03, 2006 7:07 pm UTC

ohki wrote:I had to try

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Convergent =P


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Postby Wikey » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:13 am UTC

no-genius wrote:I tried to trick the newbie in here so that I could mis-quote him and make fun of him!


Haha, tacos.

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Wikey wrote:Haha, Burritos.

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Postby no-genius » Mon Dec 04, 2006 5:37 am UTC

Wikey wrote:
no-genius wrote:STFU N00b!


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Postby billybobfred » Sat Jan 19, 2008 5:52 am UTC

no-genius wrote:
Wikey wrote:
no-genius wrote:Something something something


NO DON'T DO THAT IT ARE BAD
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Lol, wiki-quoting.
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billybobfred wrote:
no-genius wrote:
Wikey wrote:
no-genius wrote:Something something something


NO DON'T DO THAT IT ARE BAD
I leik cheez.


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Postby Sprocket » Sun Aug 10, 2008 1:10 am UTC

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Alt. Text: It's crazy how much my gut opinion of a movie/song is swayed by what other people say, regardless of how I felt coming out of the theatre.
http://xkcd.com/185/

This is why I can't say that Heath Ledgers performance in Dark Knight was amazing. I just can't trust that my view hasn't been horribly an irrevocably influenced by reviews and such.

In general I think it really speaks to the un-scientific nature of like and dislike. Preference and enjoyment are versatile, transient things, though any scene one might be part of would like to proclaim otherwise. This however does not explain Amazon's uncanny ability to predict what you're into.
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Postby Okita » Sun Aug 10, 2008 6:00 am UTC

Sprocket wrote:This is why I can't say that Heath Ledgers performance in Dark Knight was amazing. I just can't trust that my view hasn't been horribly an irrevocably influenced by reviews and such.


Well you could watch his old movies and see if you like 'em better.
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Postby Balsamic » Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:56 am UTC

I make a deliberate effort to insulate myself from advertising and arbitrary concepts such as celebrity as they do not interest me at best (and downright insult me at worst). I also am rather ignorant when it comes to actors. The night after seeing Dark Knight I made a comment to a friend that The Joker stole the show, only to be informed that he had died. I therefore feel my opinion was about as idiosyncratic as you can get, but I accept that it likely has still been tainted somewhere along the way. That said, I am susceptible in other ways. After being caught out by several horrible films, I tend to look at aggregated review scores before going (but nothing other than the figure).
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Postby Sprocket » Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:30 pm UTC

I don't watch TV, I do listen to NPR and they talked about it a lot, unfortunately.

No doubt he was the most interesting thing about the movie, which isn't the same thing as saying "Oh me yarm Heath Ledger is actOR! Give this man Oscaaaar!"
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Postby luketheduke » Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:52 pm UTC

I demand a link. to this comic, which is obviously xkcd. but nowhere to be found?
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Postby Exenon » Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:10 pm UTC

luketheduke wrote:I demand a link. to this comic, which is obviously xkcd. but nowhere to be found?


http://xkcd.com/185/
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Re: "wiki friends" disucssion

Postby H3Knuckles » Tue Aug 12, 2008 12:32 am UTC

This is something I think about pretty often. I read an interesting article a little while back talking about how New Coke was made because at the time Pepsi was actually starting to beat them, how they used blind taste tests with test groups who consistently picked new coke over the original formula, etc, and that the negative reaction didn't start to kick in until a week or two after release. This is a well-defined psychological effect (whose names escapes me atm), and the article argued that the turn against new coke was largely the result of a vocal minority gradually turning the influence of the majority through this along with people's general aversion to change. As a side note, "classic" Coca-Cola's return was when Coke officially reformulated it to exclusively use high-fructose corn syrup throughout the US (one of New Coke's changes). Prior to that most bottlers where still using cane sugar to sweeten it (some had begun using HFCS to save money though).

Anyways, I knew a guy who was a mild Star Wars fan, and was going to go and see each of the prequels with me as they came out, and each time he'd love it for a little while afterwards, and then suddenly think it was crap. I was sure at the time that his opinion was somehow changing to conform to public opinion because it was always such a 180 from when he actually saw them. I enjoyed them, but even when I saw them there was stuff that I didn't like or that seemed poorly executed, but his weird reversal from loving them to hating them (and the way it kept happening with each new release) always bugged the hell out of me for some reason.

PS. I am aware these aren't the best examples, but they're the two that first occurred to me. At any rate, it's something I've observed where people's opinion seems to shift based on what the scene or community thinks, not to mention how often I've caught people parroting the opinions of others about something they haven't really heard, viewed, read, or played (whichever's appropriate) themselves. I've done it myself, of course, but I generally make an effort to experience whatever it is, think things through, and decide for myself.

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Re: "wiki friends" disucssion

Postby Random832 » Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:20 pm UTC

As a side note, "classic" Coca-Cola's return was when Coke officially reformulated it to exclusively use high-fructose corn syrup throughout the US (one of New Coke's changes). Prior to that most bottlers where still using cane sugar to sweeten it (some had begun using HFCS to save money though).


I think that's a myth; the change had actually happened years earlier.

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Postby Sprocket » Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:04 pm UTC

I remember having new coke. It kind of tasted minty. I did not like it.

I don't generally change my mind about something I liked when other people talk about it, but what I DO get is knowing the people around me are not enjoying something makes me not enjoy it too, and sometimes if people tell me something is great I inherently have to be skeptical when I see it so I don't enjoy it as much as I might have, and things like that.

For example: Yes, Heath Ledgers performance was good, but I couldn't LOVE it becuase the hype made me skeptical before I even got in the theatre. I will say it was definitely much better than a the cheesy sound bytes on NPR made me think it was.
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Postby Elvish Pillager » Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:10 pm UTC

What I've heard is that they made New Coke deliberately, so that they could call real coke "Classic Coke", which sounds cooler.
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Postby scarletmanuka » Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:09 am UTC

Since someone has to post it:
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Postby Sprocket » Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:03 pm UTC

Aye..Aye indeed. We will keep you.
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Re: "wiki friends" disucssion

Postby GreaterSteven » Fri Aug 15, 2008 4:04 pm UTC

For the record, my opinions remain pretty consistent in light of any differing opinions my friends present.

Although I do have a thing about tending to dislike things if a lot of people like them. The little non-conformist in me, I suppose.

It's not really that I automatically dislike things if a lot of other people like them, it's just that I become skeptical of the hype. Like, a lot of bands get a lot of hype, and I listen, and they aren't that good. I then make a point of expressing how they aren't that good, and sometimes more so than if there hadn't been any hype at all, BECAUSE of the hype.

However, the Joker's performance received a lot of hype, but when I went in, skepticism and all, I was still impressed.

So ultimately I don't think it affects my personal judgements as much as I feel like it does.

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Re: "wiki friends" disucssion

Postby Isaleen Grey » Sun Nov 23, 2008 1:50 am UTC

this happened to me the day the comic was posted- I came out of a theater thinking that the movie was pretty good, and ten seconds of discussion later thought it was horrible. Chilling.
The media scares me sometimes...a lot of the time...I haven't really watched any TV or listened to the radio in two years- I think it's an improvement...but how do I know my opinion hasn't been swayed by the whole nonconformity movement!! Catch-22!! :wink:
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