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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby dylancommadash » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:37 pm UTC

Can you please make a print for the Server room wolves? I want to post this on my server room door at work. It is already decorated with about 30 other XKCD strips, but none quite so fitting as this.

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby StNowhere » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:38 pm UTC

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby cream wobbly » Mon Nov 15, 2010 3:48 pm UTC

DarthMarth wrote:Is it bad that I like these more than regular xkcd?

Absolutely. You will go to hell for wishing that Randall's family illness is a protracted and complicated one.

And then when his family issues are set to rights (or at least as right as they'll ever be) you'll hate yourself even more for saying you liked these, because he'll pull an "XKCD unplugged", where he'll create new comics "in the spirit of" these five minute potshots.

Unplugged. Remember all those grunge bands? (The correct answer is "no".) Eric Clapton? Whitesnake for heaven's sake? It was even rumoured that Margaret Thatcher was going to run for president under the campaign banner "Maggie : -- unplugged...".

These are great sketches. Enjoy them for what they are, and don't encourage him.

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby That Jeff » Mon Nov 15, 2010 4:40 pm UTC

My first thought with the Wagner/Bach comic was Eternal Sonata. I think that game was about Chopin, though.

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby StNowhere » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:24 pm UTC

cream wobbly wrote:
DarthMarth wrote:Is it bad that I like these more than regular xkcd?

Absolutely. You will go to hell for wishing that Randall's family illness is a protracted and complicated one.

And then when his family issues are set to rights (or at least as right as they'll ever be) you'll hate yourself even more for saying you liked these, because he'll pull an "XKCD unplugged", where he'll create new comics "in the spirit of" these five minute potshots.

Unplugged. Remember all those grunge bands? (The correct answer is "no".) Eric Clapton? Whitesnake for heaven's sake? It was even rumoured that Margaret Thatcher was going to run for president under the campaign banner "Maggie : -- unplugged...".

These are great sketches. Enjoy them for what they are, and don't encourage him.


Screw that. Encourage anything that is an improvement. Sure, "unplugged" got flogged until there was nothing left but a half-dead 12-string acoustic, but some of it was good, and just as you shouldn't write off the bad because of the good, you shouldn't write off the good because of the bad. Instead, take everything that works, leave anything that doesn't.

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby Rowadanr » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:44 pm UTC

HeheheheHAHAHA! These are great fun.
Particularly love the "Why did I draw this?" under Wagner/Bach, I've had moments like that (my friends will remember the erudite fruitbat and the computer-literate starfish)
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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby J L » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:46 pm UTC

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I assumed Mozart was the third guy in that comic. Although I guess he should be the one to activate the Magic Flute, but Bach had to get mentioned somehow for the "I'll be Bach" reference.


Gah, it really took me some time to get what you guys are talking about.

And he's pronounced / bax / ... not / bæk / ... srsly! :-)

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby uncivlengr » Mon Nov 15, 2010 5:52 pm UTC

I've got to echo the comments made already that any one out of this collection would be the bext xkcd comic (at least a feeling of a return to its former self) that I've seen in a long time. The Jupiter slingshot one cracks me up.

Granted it's an unfortunate circumstance by which we received these comics, but when he returns to the regular schedule I hope Randall makes note of this fact and does whatever it is he did here more often.
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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby ajordan » Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:01 pm UTC

Yeah, these are great, no need for the "Five-Minute Comics" disclaimer. Shoulda just cut them up and slapped Alt-Text on them!

I actually registered a forum account just to say that. Hope all is as well as it can be in XKCD land, best wishes to Randall and family.

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby wisnij » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:10 pm UTC

Poor Jupiter. He just wants to help out!
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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby jjane » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:17 pm UTC

Why he didn't spread these out (1 per day) and buy himself some time escapes me.

P.S. Hotness scale is fucking hilarious and made me lawl.

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby Itsuko » Mon Nov 15, 2010 8:28 pm UTC

For comics that were completely improvised, these are great :) . For comics in general, these are great :D !

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby AvianMinded » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:12 pm UTC

I enjoyed these. Every single one merely brought a smile to my face at worst and caused me to laugh aloud (literally) at best.

However I'm a Photography major so...

Just saying that it was nice to not have to Google "diode" to get the punchline.
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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby Sprocket » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:12 pm UTC

God damn you bastard, you're even funny when you've only got five minutes.
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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby CombustibleLemons » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:35 pm UTC

funniest strip(s) in a while. I don't know if it would have worked with them separate thought. Can't wait for more.

jjane wrote:Why he didn't spread these out (1 per day) and buy himself some time escapes me.

P.S. Hotness scale is fucking hilarious and made me lawl.


I think its because they play off each other even though they have nothing to do with the others. I agree he could have cleaned them up then released them on separate days but what ever.
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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby praybz » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:46 pm UTC

These are all way better than any of the "real" comics in the last few months. Maybe this indicates that Randall tries very hard to appeal to his fanbase, feed his relationship with his readers, etc., all leading to a lot of self-criticism and creative congestion. With a 5-minute limit, however, the spontaneity and charm returns.

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby Mick7153 » Mon Nov 15, 2010 9:49 pm UTC

I agree with the hotness rating. I always felt like girls I see around are infinitely hotter than the ones on magazines.

The Bach, Wagner thing made me laugh out loud....and the rest of the library was not amused

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby Halborr » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:09 pm UTC

I agree with the hotness rating. I always felt like girls I see around are infinitely hotter than the ones on magazines.


I couldn't agree more.

I definitely laughed at all but the Boy Named Trig and Bach/Wagner ones, just because I didn't get the reference. I dearly hope Randall's problems come to a close soon (in a good way!), but this comic was definitely better than some of the ones of late. The pony and server room ones were my favorite.

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby Tyrannosaur » Mon Nov 15, 2010 10:56 pm UTC

Halborr wrote:
I agree with the hotness rating. I always felt like girls I see around are infinitely hotter than the ones on magazines.


I couldn't agree more.


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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby phlip » Mon Nov 15, 2010 11:44 pm UTC

J L wrote:And he's pronounced / bax / ... not / bæk / ... srsly! :-)

Sure, but with Schwarzenegger's accent, in the movie it was pronounced /bak/, not /bæk/, so the jump to /bax/ isn't much of a stretch...

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby StNowhere » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:56 am UTC

praybz wrote:These are all way better than any of the "real" comics in the last few months. Maybe this indicates that Randall tries very hard to appeal to his fanbase, feed his relationship with his readers, etc., all leading to a lot of self-criticism and creative congestion. With a 5-minute limit, however, the spontaneity and charm returns.


I think this is a fair point. It's my contention that early XKCD weren't necessarily better because the ideas were better, but because there was less of a filter between Randall's mind and the pen. Is he trying to "nerd up" some strips to appeal to the geek scientist fanbase (of which I consider myself a junior member)? Is he trying to be poignant because people have praised some of the comics that don't have a punchline? Today's were great because they were simple thoughts, and many with a kind of rapid-fire delivery to them that kept you just slightly off-guard. Trying to appease some segment of fans (if that's what he's been doing) tends to make you rely on what you know they've liked in the past, which makes you predictable. Remove the filter, Randall! Be spontaneous! Don't try to neatly wrap up the thought, just let

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby Nautilus » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:06 am UTC

Five minute comics… Forum Games, anyone?
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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby Halrandir » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:28 am UTC

Agree with most of the above, these are terrific little gems today. But a quick question for the Hotness Scale strip: is the girl in your bio class hot because she's wearing your shirt, or is the girl in your bio class wearing your shirt because she's hot?

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby Pfhorrest » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:58 am UTC

Halrandir wrote:Agree with most of the above, these are terrific little gems today. But a quick question for the Hotness Scale strip: is the girl in your bio class hot because she's wearing your shirt, or is the girl in your bio class wearing your shirt because she's hot?

The fact that she is wearing your shirt is hot for what it implies. (How did she end up in your shirt, and what other articles of your clothing has she been in lately? Also, she is probably not offering breakfast while still in the bio class...)

Presumably, what it implies would have happened because she was hot enough anyway. But the fact that she's wearing your shirt now makes her just that much hotter.

Also, it occurs to me there may be a story in those strips:
Week 1: Guy sees girl in bio class. Mmmm.
Week 2: Guy has "breakfast" with girl from bio class (who is now wearing his shirt). Booyah!
Week 3: Guy finds girl from bio class wearing his mom's shirt (and thanking her for the good night). Wat!
Week 4: Guy finds girl from bio class wearing his mom's skin like a suit (and beckoning him to "give mommy a hug"). AAAAAAAA!
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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby Platypodes » Tue Nov 16, 2010 4:18 am UTC

I loved the Jupiter one--just awesome goofiness! Ring cycle was pretty good too.

I don't wish xkcd were like this all the time... but I liked this a lot as something different.

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On topic, I actually really liked the comic as well, in the same way I love hearing my favorite song from years ago pop on the radio now.


Trig isn't a british nickname for Down's Syndrome that I can remember. It's a reference to Trigger from Only Fools & Horses, who was pretty thick.

Having said which - your evidence is weak, whether google throws up something is not the holy grail of fact. If Palin had read about Down's Syndrome she'd have come across the reference to it being Trisonomy G, TriG.

I tried the search the other way around--Googled "Down's Syndrome," looked at several of the top results, clicked through (when applicable) to the pages with names like "About Down's Syndrome" and "What causes Down's Syndrome," and did a find-on-page for "TriG" and "Tri-G." Neither one came up. That doesn't prove that nobody ever refers to Down's as TriG, but it does show that it's quite possible to read about it without encountering that term.

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby DragonHawk » Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:21 am UTC

cream wobbly wrote:Unplugged. Remember all those grunge bands? (The correct answer is "no".) Eric Clapton? Whitesnake for heaven's sake? It was even rumoured that Margaret Thatcher was going to run for president under the campaign banner "Maggie : -- unplugged...".

Hey, man*, 10,000 Maniacs Unplugged is one of my favorite albums ever.

* = Or girl, or being, or dessert topping. I'm not entirely sure what gender-specific slang pronoun to apply to "cream wobbly", or indeed, what a "cream wobbly" even is. No offense is intended by any inadvertent gender/flavor mismatch.
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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby Platypodes » Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:47 am UTC

DragonHawk wrote:* = Or girl, or being, or dessert topping. I'm not entirely sure what gender-specific slang pronoun to apply to "cream wobbly", or indeed, what a "cream wobbly even is. No offense is intended by any inadvertent gender/flavor mismatch.

Hahaha! That was the best gender-uncertainty disclaimer ever.

Is there any good gender-neutral equivalent to "hey man"? I tend to say "dude" (as in "geez, dude" or "duuuuude") pretty freely to non-males because nothing else has the same ring to it...
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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby Ghavrel » Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:56 am UTC

Platypodes wrote:Is there any good gender-neutral equivalent to "hey man"? I tend to say "dude" (as in "geez, dude" or "duuuuude") pretty freely to non-males because nothing else has the same ring to it...


You could say "hey bra" and then claim you were referring to their brassiere. though I think this would cause more problems than it could possibly ever solve.
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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby osmigos » Tue Nov 16, 2010 6:23 am UTC

These made me laugh harder than I can remember laughing at an XKCD... then I read the mouse-over text. I need some aspirin.

Is there any good gender-neutral equivalent to "hey man"? I tend to say "dude" (as in "geez, dude" or "duuuuude") pretty freely to non-males because nothing else has the same ring to it...


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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby Felstaff » Tue Nov 16, 2010 9:36 am UTC

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J L wrote:And he's pronounced / bax / ... not / bæk / ... srsly! :-)

Sure, but with Schwarzenegger's accent, in the movie it was pronounced /bak/, not /bæk/, so the jump to /bax/ isn't much of a stretch...

I've always pronounced it Bark, with my patented non-rhotic R, and glottal [x] finish on the 'ch', as if I were pronouncing loch. I still have trouble trying not to bring up some phlegm when pronouncing [x].

So it's more /bɑx/ than /bax/ to me. But I elongate most of my 'a's anyway. Cahstle, Pahth, Plahstic...

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby plumey » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:15 am UTC

The stick figure that's supposed to be Bach does kinda look more like Mozart to me.
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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby SirMustapha » Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:38 am UTC

ellenmaclean wrote:I appreciate that Mr. Munroe is continue to amuse us all while going through personal struggles. OBVIOUSLY strips done in five minutes will not have the same level of thought and detail, so I hope people will be classy enough to lay off the criticism.


Why? Randall chose to publish them, he wasn't forced to do so; it's subject to criticism as much as anything else he posts.

I also think that, for "5 minute comics", they're bizarrely up to par. So, how much time does he spend on his actual comics? 10 minutes each? Worse: how much time does he spend actually coming up with the jokes and developing them? The ONLY difference between the comics posted today and the previous ones are that the lines are more squiggly, that's it.

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby J L » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:04 pm UTC

phlip wrote:
J L wrote:And he's pronounced / bax / ... not / bæk / ... srsly! :-)

Sure, but with Schwarzenegger's accent, in the movie it was pronounced /bak/, not /bæk/, so the jump to /bax/ isn't much of a stretch...


Right! We tend to forget about this, since Schwarzenegger's dubbing voice tends to make up for his accent in the German versions of his attempts to speak English.

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby NMcCoy » Tue Nov 16, 2010 12:29 pm UTC

Literally laughed out loud at the (hypothetically titled) "Jupiter", "Nature", and "Magic Flute" comics. This is approximately seven times the amount of laughter I usually get out of xkcd. Perhaps Randall's been trying too hard lately? If xkcd went from what it is now to a daily 5-minute comic of this type (or indeed a M/W/F page of them) I'd not complain a bit.
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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby phlip » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:13 pm UTC

Felstaff wrote:So it's more /bɑx/ than /bax/ to me. But I elongate most of my 'a's anyway. Cahstle, Pahth, Plahstic...

Hmm, it's possible. I can't really hear the difference between the two, and I'm working entirely off a memory of a memetic version of the Terminator's line, anyway. Point remains, though, "Bach" and that particular pronunciation of "back" are assonant.

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby littlelj » Tue Nov 16, 2010 1:27 pm UTC

SirMustapha wrote:I also think that, for "5 minute comics", they're bizarrely up to par. So, how much time does he spend on his actual comics? 10 minutes each? Worse: how much time does he spend actually coming up with the jokes and developing them? The ONLY difference between the comics posted today and the previous ones are that the lines are more squiggly, that's it.


I think of the creative process differently. One has any number of nebulous ideas whirling around in one's head, which may take hours, days, weeks or months to crystallise to a three-panel idea. If you're playing a "comic in five minutes" game then you're bound to go with one of the "nearly there" ideas, which you might have spent a year mentally refining.

Sometimes I play with an idea for weeks, and then getting it down on paper / screen takes just minutes. It's the internal process that is long.
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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby PersuasiveFervor » Tue Nov 16, 2010 2:00 pm UTC

I'm sorry. There's something wrong with me. I've been lurking for two years...and today, of all days, I've registered purely to say... DAAAAAH! "The Magic Flute" was written by Mozart!!

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Re: 0819: "Five-Minute Comics: Part 1"

Postby meticulousDrafstman » Tue Nov 16, 2010 3:20 pm UTC

It took me a second reading to get, but Wagner's ring cycle is downright hilarious


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