0282: "Organic Fuel"

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0282: "Organic Fuel"

Postby frezik » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:04 am UTC

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Why is everyone fixated on using corn for bio-fuel? There's more than enough evidence that it can't possibly make up even a good fraction of US gas usage. Algae is by far more productive.



LINK: http://xkcd.com/c282.html

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Postby Aglet » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:05 am UTC

This was pure genius. Unabashed, unapologetic, pure AWESOME genius.
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Postby UserGoogol » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:08 am UTC

The corn industry has better lobbyists than the algae lobby.

And yes, xkcd is fucking great at pulling together horrible puns like this.

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Thyme

Postby rglovejoy » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:09 am UTC

Not to sound pedantic, but thyme is an herb, not a spice.

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Postby toysbfun » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:15 am UTC

That one got a small laugh.

Oh, shoot, I haven't taken any sertraline in a while. Where'd I put it?

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Postby phlip » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:40 am UTC

That was painful.

In a good way, but still, painful.

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Postby Toeofdoom » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:53 am UTC

hehehe, I liked that anyway. apparently theres an "all green" service station opening in prarahn, near where i had some classes last semester...
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Postby dragoneye1589 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:02 am UTC

I think the comic is close enough. I call Godwin's law on the comic.

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Re: Thyme

Postby jayjaywalker3 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:12 am UTC

rglovejoy wrote:Not to sound pedantic, but thyme is an herb, not a spice.


Aren't herbs used as spices?

EDIT

I thought this was interesting.
http://www.snopes.com/history/govern/trains.htm
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Postby Hawknc » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:14 am UTC

Toeofdoom, if you have any more information on that servo, I would forever be in your debt.

RE comic: :lol:

RE algae: it's still in the experimental stages, and not ready for full-scale production. Also, it can only service a limited portion of the market, as biodiesel won't work in petrol (sorry, "gasoline") vehicles. It's fantastic stuff, but it won't save the planet on its own. Cellulosic ethanol is likely to have a more significant impact.

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Postby __Kit » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:21 am UTC

Delicious!
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Postby Toeofdoom » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:22 am UTC

^ k, lets see... its called "conserv" or something like that, as I said its in Prahran, not sure exactly where, but I'm pretty sure everything they sell there is "greenie" related, biofuel etc. and they are planning to use algae to make biodiesel although they arent selling that yet.

They also sell other products in the same types of ideas, organic foods and whatever, they also mentioned a laptop bag with solar panels, so it recharges your laptop as you carry it around.

Its the first one like it in victoria anyway.

Is it bad that I really like the joke in the comic and it doesnt piss me off at all? :P
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Postby skeptical scientist » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:25 am UTC

*groan*
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Postby Dibley » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:29 am UTC

I recall reading an article about a species of euphorbia (lost the link) that is native to Africa that could be cheaply and efficiently processed into a petrol like substance. Not only would that help with providing us oil, it would probably be good for the Africans, who seem to need the money.

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Postby OneLess » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:56 am UTC

I'm suddenly very grateful that most of my friends never use puns...

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Postby jayjaywalker3 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:57 am UTC

I<3 terrible puns.

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Postby Pebbles » Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:05 am UTC

jayjaywalker3 wrote:I<3 terrible puns.

QFT they always remind me of dad jokes :D
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Postby starkruzr » Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:21 am UTC

The University of New Hampshire thinks we can replace the entire transportation sector of our energy requirements with biodiesel produced from algae in a piece of land about 1/8 the size of Arizona. Spread across the American Southwest, this is entirely doable.

Just sayin'.

http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html
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Postby EradicateIV » Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:22 am UTC

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Postby TigerX » Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:25 am UTC

skeptical scientist wrote:*groan*


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Postby chernobyl » Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:28 am UTC

I don't know about Mussolini, but in modern Italy there are no trains that run on thyme. :P

As for bio-fuels, potheads advocate the use of hemp. :) They may have a point, it's one of the fastest-growing cultures on Earth, so in theory it should be way more efficient than corn...

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Postby joeythehobo » Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:43 am UTC

OK, this comic was decent until the last comment by the left guy. That made the entire comic worth it, lol.
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Postby spacedman » Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:28 am UTC

A newspaper recently ran a contest to find the worst pun ever, and one guy was so keen to win he sent in ten entries, thinking that one of them would win, but no pun in ten did.

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Postby mmmXsmoothie » Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:30 am UTC

I live in Iowa; we're pushing the corn.

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Postby Dew_N_O » Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:41 am UTC

spacedman wrote:A newspaper recently ran a contest to find the worst pun ever, and one guy was so keen to win he sent in ten entries, thinking that one of them would win, but no pun in ten did.


Worst pun contest begins...NOW!
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Postby voodooKobra » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:16 am UTC

Immediate reaction: "SPICE MUST FLOW!"

Then it took me a second to get the pun.
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Postby evilbeanfiend » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:50 am UTC

Hawknc wrote:Toeofdoom, if you have any more information on that servo, I would forever be in your debt.

RE comic: :lol:

RE algae: it's still in the experimental stages, and not ready for full-scale production. Also, it can only service a limited portion of the market, as biodiesel won't work in petrol (sorry, "gasoline") vehicles. It's fantastic stuff, but it won't save the planet on its own. Cellulosic ethanol is likely to have a more significant impact.


even if algae isn't ready yet corn is still one of the worst crops for biodiesel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel

in the uk the main fuel crop is oilseed rape which is about 7 times better, and we don't have the climate to grow the even better stuff.
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Postby AceTracer » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:04 am UTC

I love bad puns :D

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Postby voodooKobra » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:13 am UTC

I read an article somewhere that said that scientists found an enzyme in termites that turned cellulose into sugars-- thereby opening the possibility of making fuel from grass and trees.
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Postby GhostWolfe » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:17 am UTC

I hate bad puns. I <3 clever puns :D
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Dew_N_O wrote:Worst pun contest begins...NOW!


I don't think it gets worse than this:
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Postby Solt » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:53 am UTC

Wow. I will now spend the next several months of my life attempting to set up conversations so that I can use this. Thyme is win.
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Postby Zerael » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:33 am UTC

Hm ... I don't get it. Where's the pun? :|

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Postby Pebbles » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:38 am UTC

SilverWolfe wrote:I hate bad puns. I <3 clever puns :D

there are clever puns??? where?? haha they all seem pretty bad to me.. but thats what makes them loveable... much like dad jokes.. seriously, is no one with me on that?
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Postby Ren » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:41 am UTC

Zerael - tell me you're not serious.

Also: "We are no longer friends" should be used as the response to all puns made in conversation. Starting now.

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Postby Hawknc » Wed Jun 27, 2007 11:58 am UTC

evilbeanfiend wrote:even if algae isn't ready yet corn is still one of the worst crops for biodiesel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biodiesel

in the uk the main fuel crop is oilseed rape which is about 7 times better, and we don't have the climate to grow the even better stuff.

...Who the hell uses corn for biodiesel? That's the dumbest thing I've heard today.

Edit: thanks Toe, after a bit of searching I found an ABC news report on it. I caught the last few seconds of it last night and went "what?!?", but couldn't find it anywhere. :P

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Postby evilbeanfiend » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:15 pm UTC

Hawknc wrote:...Who the hell uses corn for biodiesel? That's the dumbest thing I've heard today.


the u.s.a and exactly
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Postby jc » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:17 pm UTC

voodooKobra wrote:I read an article somewhere that said that scientists found an enzyme in termites that turned cellulose into sugars-- thereby opening the possibility of making fuel from grass and trees.


Then there's the Jatropha curcas tree, whose sap and seed oil can be burned directly in diesel engines. Needless to say, it isn't really a perfect fuel, and its yield isn't all that great. This was first reported back in the 1980s, and research is continuing. Some extensive plantations are being built in some semi-arid areas (mostly in Africa), and after a bit more experience (and breeding), it may become a significant fuel source.

There are lots of research projects now looking at various plants as fuel sources. So far, I haven't read of people using thyme (or any other mint species). But it is a good (i.e., bad) pun, so I guess we have to use it for that.

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about algae

Postby apeman5291 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:26 pm UTC

algae: I talked with a retired sanitation engineer who said that there was a very efficient way of growing algae using lagoons and drainage pools. So we can grow enough of it, but it still might not burn very well.

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Postby Zerael » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:27 pm UTC

Ren wrote:Zerael - tell me you're not serious.


Sorry, I am. I even looked up thyme hoping to find a second meaning. Didn't help. :?


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