0896: "ZOmbeis"

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0896: "ZOmbeis"

Postby RebeccaRGB » Mon May 09, 2011 4:10 am UTC

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Title Text: Although not permanently.

Did I really just create the first thread for this comic!?

EDIT: So close! Darn!

Edit 2: Electric Boogaloo: I remember doing a report on Marie Curie in third grade or so. I think she was the only female on the list. :P
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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby TheGrammarBolshevik » Mon May 09, 2011 4:18 am UTC

Yours is the first proper one, in that it contains a link. I vote that it stays.
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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby KShrike » Mon May 09, 2011 4:20 am UTC

Yeah, not permanently. Thank goodness for that. :o
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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby glasnt » Mon May 09, 2011 4:35 am UTC

Pretty sure I've seen this somewhere before.

I'm pretty certain it's in SP1. Must check when I get home.

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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby Jerr » Mon May 09, 2011 4:51 am UTC

"Today's comic might be familiar to a few dozen of you. :)"
So wait, a few dozen have had Zombie Marie Curie talk to them? Huh?

Great comic, though.

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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby CheezCurls » Mon May 09, 2011 4:56 am UTC

I registered just to say that this comic reminds me a lot of a series of blog posts from a friend of mine about noteworthy women in computer science, and how they tend not to be recognized for their work...

http://lyceum-arabica.livejournal.com/167161.html
http://lyceum-arabica.livejournal.com/167266.html
http://lyceum-arabica.livejournal.com/167497.html

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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby e^iπ+1=0 » Mon May 09, 2011 5:02 am UTC

Just checked and it is indeed in SP1.
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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby TheGrammarBolshevik » Mon May 09, 2011 5:05 am UTC

What's SP1?
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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby RebeccaRGB » Mon May 09, 2011 5:05 am UTC

What is SP1? AcronymFinder is not being helpful here.
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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby glasnt » Mon May 09, 2011 5:06 am UTC

The first rule of SP1 is that you don't talk about SP1.

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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby JustMe » Mon May 09, 2011 5:18 am UTC

YES!!!
This one is going up every where I can reach!
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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby CaribouM3gs » Mon May 09, 2011 5:30 am UTC

I really love this comic! Missing Ada Lovelace, but that one's been done, I think. Against my better judgement, I attend in a women's college (Mt. Holyoke...we are NOT a bunch of feminazis, pinkie swear!) and this would be really well-received were it not for the fact that there are 2 days left in the semester. First day of next year, I know what I'm pinning to all of the cork boards!

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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby zAlbee » Mon May 09, 2011 5:37 am UTC

e^iπ+1=0 wrote:Just checked and it is indeed in SP1.


Is it a book?

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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby jestingrabbit » Mon May 09, 2011 5:39 am UTC

SP1 might be this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skulduggery_Pleasant

but I don't really know.
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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby Magic Molly » Mon May 09, 2011 5:43 am UTC

Marie Curie invented the theory of radioactivity, the treatment of radioactivity, and dying of radioactivity.

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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby mszegedy » Mon May 09, 2011 6:01 am UTC

Not sure how I feel about this comic. "Radium kills you" is definitely not a punchline, but it's not like there's no merit in the comic. But I do know that it's little mor than a thinly veiled, short rant on the part of Randall with a poor excuse for a joke.

But, you know. He had to get it out eventually.

Magic Molly wrote:Marie Curie invented the theory of radioactivity, the treatment of radioactivity, and dying of radioactivity.


Right! I think we now know where Randy got his inspiration for this comic.

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For those of you out there not familiar with this quote, it's from Portal 2. Randy probably got around to buying it.

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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby legopelle » Mon May 09, 2011 6:13 am UTC

e^iπ+1=0 wrote:Just checked and it is indeed in SP1.

Clarification, bitte.
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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby kwelkk » Mon May 09, 2011 6:48 am UTC

Always sad to see nobody mention Agnes Pockels, as a male experimental scientist I find her story the most impressive.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langmuir_Trough#History

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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby riddler » Mon May 09, 2011 6:53 am UTC

You just ruined my schoolboy fantasy about the geeky introverted scientist that has deep yearning in her loins ...

And replaced it with my schoolboy fantasy about 00 buckshot, an autoloader with 8" barrel and the zombie apocalypse.

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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby e^iπ+1=0 » Mon May 09, 2011 7:03 am UTC

glasnt wrote:The first rule of SP1 is that you don't talk about SP1.
I'm sticking with this.

Though I'm not sure the acronym is really in use, you can probably find something that matches it and is much more plausible than Skulduggery Pleasant. Essentially, if you get the right answer you'll know it.

Pre-post edit: Actually, it'll probably be pretty hard to figure it out. I just looked in the place where I thought people could find it and while it was there it wasn't nearly as obvious as I expected it to be. The last sentence remains true though: if you get the right answer, you'll know it.
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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby superglucose » Mon May 09, 2011 7:13 am UTC

AAaaah so THAT'S why I recognize it!

... You know, I met a really, really cute asian stanford student at that thing and I forgot to ask her number :( IF ANY OF YOU KNOWS A CUTE ASIAN STANFORD STUDENT WHO GOT SP1 PLEASE PM ME!

It's vital because I really had a good time talking to her. Do it for science love!

(wait, aren't those the same thing?)
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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby Gregu » Mon May 09, 2011 8:41 am UTC

So far noone corrected this, but being Polish I feel obliged - "Marie Curie" is actually "Marie Skłodowska-Curie". She never stopped using her maiden name, just added her husband's name to hers. The whole world seems to know her only by her husband's name, while she made it a point (being a bit of a feminist, but in a good way) to stick to the full name.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_curie
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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby verano » Mon May 09, 2011 9:35 am UTC

The quarter where I live has streets named after Curie, Noether and Meitner (and only a short stub of a street named after Otto Hahn)
http://goo.gl/maps/qYfp

btw: the nobel prize winning Max Born with a street in the same quarter was the grandfather of singer Olivia Newton-John

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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby Steroid » Mon May 09, 2011 9:38 am UTC

Perhaps by "being the next Marie Curie" when speaking to this young person, they meant being a famous scientist, not just a good one.

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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby Walkdogger » Mon May 09, 2011 9:43 am UTC

*appears out of the shadows*

For those wondering what SP1 is, the Wikipedia page of XKCD has the answer.

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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby Nergye » Mon May 09, 2011 10:00 am UTC

Steroid wrote:Perhaps by "being the next Marie Curie" when speaking to this young person, they meant being a famous scientist, not just a good one.


Or an undead one? Or some combination of the three traits, perhaps. A famous, great, undead scientist. Yes, I believe this is what she meant. Definitely.

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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby AvatarIII » Mon May 09, 2011 10:10 am UTC

Steroid wrote:Perhaps by "being the next Marie Curie" when speaking to this young person, they meant being a famous scientist, not just a good one.


then that would be implying that being famous is better than being good/great, which although is exactly the kind of attitude most people have these days, it is far from the correct attitude to have.

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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby Tualha » Mon May 09, 2011 10:17 am UTC

Oy, GOOMHR. I was just thinking about Marie Curie yesterday morning, and how it would be nice to warn her about the dangers of radioactivity.

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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby there is no zero » Mon May 09, 2011 10:50 am UTC

Thank you, Walkdogger.

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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby oddoneout » Mon May 09, 2011 10:57 am UTC

I was actually reminded of Enchanted. I've watched that film way too much.

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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby geekmom » Mon May 09, 2011 10:58 am UTC

He left out Rosie Franklin, too. She died of cancer too. Spent a lot of time with Marie's x-ray machine.

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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby myrmaid » Mon May 09, 2011 11:45 am UTC

I remember when I was in school it seemed like the only two women involved in the maths and sciences were Marie Curie and Ada Lovelace. I sometimes felt like Ada Lovelace (and I say this as a feminist) got included because she had an awesome story being the the daughter of Byron and dying young, not because of her contributions. Can anyone confirm or deny my suspicions?

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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby Mercredi » Mon May 09, 2011 11:52 am UTC

This one's going on my office door. Thanks, Randall!

It bugged me so much in elementary school that the only woman scientist we learned about died from doing science. I felt like it was a veiled threat: don't do science, girls, because only one of you ever did, and it killed her. It wasn't until high school that I learned about Lise Meitner and Rosaline Franklin; it wasn't until college that I learned about Emmy Noether and Sophie Germain... and I was in grad school when I learned (rather accidentally) about Ada Lovelace and Hypatia. And Sonya Kovalevski, who has a really important theorem named after her.

Fortunately, I had Kate Monday for a positive role model as a child. =D

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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby Avoidist » Mon May 09, 2011 11:59 am UTC

Jocelyn Bell (the discoverer of Pulsars) is another great candidate for the list, I've had the privelage of going to a lecture she presented and there is no doubt in my mind that she deserved a Nobel Prize for her work.

It is disheartening when you help teach a physics class and it's at least 80% male. I'm sure we are getting better at encouraging individuals of both genders into the field, but we can certainly improve.

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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby philip1201 » Mon May 09, 2011 12:02 pm UTC

Einstein can complain about the same thing. I don't think it's a lack of respect for female scientists in the field (though there still aren't as many famous female scientists as male scientists), it's just that it's strange to hail someone as "the next [someone of a different gender]". Curie is just the female version of Einstein for that sentence. Males can become the next Einstein, females the next Curie, because they are the most famous (=important, as far as the general public is concerned) of their respective genders. I don't think people who says "the next Curie" means to say Curie was the last important female scientist, just the most famous=important.

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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby jc » Mon May 09, 2011 12:07 pm UTC

there is no zero wrote:Thank you, Walkdogger.

Except that the wikipedia entry for xkcd no longer contains the string "SP1" (in any capitalization).

I first guessed that it might have something to do with Something Positive, but that makes no sense.

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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby Keither » Mon May 09, 2011 12:10 pm UTC

It's supposed to be Marie Skłodowska-Curie. She was born in Poland and Skłodowska is her maiden name which she kept after marriage.

/sry, I didn't notice gregu's post.

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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby BullNiro » Mon May 09, 2011 12:50 pm UTC

I have read xkcd for years but this is the first time I have ever been pissed off by it. Not actually at it but it just made me so mad about how women have been treated by society throughout history and that thing about Hilary Clinton and that other lady (whose name escapes me) being edited out of the picture.
Rosalind Franklin should so be in there, look at Wikipedia for her work with DNA, ultimately one of the most important works of all time.
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Re: 0896: Marie Curie

Postby SpringLoaded12 » Mon May 09, 2011 12:59 pm UTC

CaribouM3gs wrote:I really love this comic! Missing Ada Lovelace, but that one's been done, I think. Against my better judgement, I attend in a women's college (Mt. Holyoke...we are NOT a bunch of feminazis, pinkie swear!) and this would be really well-received were it not for the fact that there are 2 days left in the semester. First day of next year, I know what I'm pinning to all of the cork boards!

Any account of the history of computer science that fails to mention Ada Lovelace, I think, isn't even credible.
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Re: 0896: "Marie Curie"

Postby monicaclaire » Mon May 09, 2011 1:05 pm UTC

I feel like the most important thing to finding out something (which will in turn probably lead to greatness :? ) is just really wanting to know, and only that. Not wanting to be like some other person.

Those really interested enough to work that hard would probably not want to be put up on a pedastool either.


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