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1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:07 am UTC
by rhomboidal
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Title Text: "Roger Ebert once called you directionless and unwatchable."

But I'll bet Ryan Reynolds could and would play the part.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:13 am UTC
by glasnt
I claim this thread to be the first one.

Also, I'd pick Tory Belleci instead of Ryan Reynolds, but that's just me.

Oh, you mean unlike-able...

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:15 am UTC
by SpringLoaded12
Gah! I saw there was no thread, started making one, saw TrueNarnian's and thus discarded mine, then noticed TrueNarnian's wasn't even close to the right format so I started again, and then I see this. Oh well, maybe next time.


Did anyone else immediately think of Audie Murphy? When they made a movie of his life, they actually did portray some of his accomplishments as less than what they really were, to make it more believable for audiences.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:37 am UTC
by A_of_s_t
I can't tell if this was supposed to be funny or not... There wasn't much of a punchline.

EDIT:

What I mean to say is that the first stick figure says "no one would believe it" and the second one responses by saying that he agrees because the script would be poorly written. It's like they are having two completely different conversations. It's like the second stick figure is responding to the phrase "no one would watch it." But that's not what he said. So I'm a bit perplexed.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:40 am UTC
by Djehutynakht
A_of_s_t wrote:I can't tell if this was supposed to be funny or not... There wasn't much of a punchline.



That's the point.



Indeed... a movie of his life would be boring. Fiction should interest people.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:42 am UTC
by Eebster the Great
A_of_s_t wrote:What I mean to say is that the first stick figure says "no one would believe it" and the second one responses by saying that he agrees because the script would be poorly written. It's like they are having two completely different conversations. It's like the second stick figure is responding to the phrase "no one would watch it." But that's not what he said. So I'm a bit perplexed.

Randall evidently writes sloppy dialog.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:46 am UTC
by bhoot
I get the joke, but it really wasn't all that funny. Of course Randall can't be expected to make amazing comics every time, so I'm not complaining much.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:53 am UTC
by Brace
It seems pretty straightforward to me.

Here, have the parent trope this joke was derived from.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:03 am UTC
by Invisiblemoose
Heh, got a laugh out of me, for whatever reason.

Edit: Oh, I agree "no one would believe it" was the wrong phrase. I read right over that.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:20 am UTC
by Kisama

Posting tvtropes links should constitute a forum foul, punishable by an amusing forfeit such as having word filters applied to all of the offender's posts.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:44 am UTC
by Brace
Are you sure you're on the right forum?

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:52 am UTC
by Kisama
Brace wrote:Are you sure you're on the right forum?
No, but is 80% confidence good enough?

I don't want tvtrope links banned outright, I just want them to carry a minor cost in exchange for the potential hours wasted by people following those links. I also want to be entertained, and my suggestion would hopefully kill both birds.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:16 am UTC
by pbnjstowell
Kisama wrote:
Brace wrote:Are you sure you're on the right forum?
No, but is 80% confidence good enough?

I don't want tvtrope links banned outright, I just want them to carry a minor cost in exchange for the potential hours wasted by people following those links. I also want to be entertained, and my suggestion would hopefully kill both birds.


I second your suggestion. I've had to ban myself from tvtropes. And sometimes Wikipedia, unless I have time to kill. Dangerous!

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 7:18 am UTC
by Quicksilver
SpringLoaded12 wrote:Did anyone else immediately think of Audie Murphy? When they made a movie of his life, they actually did portray some of his accomplishments as less than what they really were, to make it more believable for audiences.
I wish I did. Audie Murphy is one of the manliest men ever. I actually thought of Breaking Bad first because I hate the main protagonist and that doesn't change my enjoyment of the show. The guy on the left kind of looks like Aaron Paul too.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:15 am UTC
by LordBritish
Kisama wrote:I don't want tvtrope links banned outright, I just want them to carry a minor cost in exchange for the potential hours wasted by people following those links. I also want to be entertained, and my suggestion would hopefully kill both birds.


I came back after three tropes. I'm so proud of myself.

Now to something completely different.

What could "technically it wasn't cheating" mean? I call cybersex.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:20 am UTC
by Kibate
From what i know(which isn't a lot due to my information coming from tv shows) is that when someone says "technically it wasn't cheating" is when someone is "just" going out with a girl, maybe a slight kiss, but no sex

also agree on the ban of tvtropes links, see you in 5 hours

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:38 am UTC
by J L
I thought it was funny. It's a nice twist on the old truth that life sometimes is poorly scripted; for it's not life itself, but individual lives -- and mostly the lives of the exact same people that keep boring you with tales about their "crazy" biographies.

"Unwatchable" is a great response to that ... must remember ...

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 8:48 am UTC
by Istaro
Kisama wrote:I don't want tvtrope links banned outright, I just want them to carry a minor cost in exchange for the potential hours wasted by people following those links.


I suspect that many (most?) of this forum's denizens have already gotten the initial TVTropes binge out of the way (upon reading http://xkcd.com/609/ if not before then).

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 1:15 pm UTC
by wlao
When looking at the left guy, I'm amazed how someone manages to put so much personality into a stick figure.

But again, that may say more about my own prejudice...

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:03 pm UTC
by Sprocket
How did this warrant being made into a comic? Is that the meta joke?

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:40 pm UTC
by eculc
I only went through about 20 links...then again the only reason I stopped was because I'm at school.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:46 pm UTC
by galifixomatosis
Sprocket wrote:How did this warrant being made into a comic? Is that the meta joke?


Let me guess... you have a goatee?

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:51 pm UTC
by Hawknc
galifixomatosis wrote:
Sprocket wrote:How did this warrant being made into a comic? Is that the meta joke?


Let me guess... you have a goatee?

I approved this one purely for the lolz.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 2:52 pm UTC
by Klear
This would be a nice comeback in a conversation. In comic form it's not enough.

And the reply indeed doesn't fit what the guy is saying.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:04 pm UTC
by CorruptUser
I don't get it. Not the joke, I get that, but why people don't get it. The guy is a jackass, and it would be painful to watch him try to talk for 2 hours.

(And where I'm from, "technically not cheating" means, *ahem*, fingerwork).

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:13 pm UTC
by gdyetrauda
My brain immediately went "Nice! A comic about how worthless Tucker Max is!"

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:18 pm UTC
by DVC
Well, I was completely confused. The title had me thinking of Stranger than Fiction which was simply brilliant, and Will Ferrel was great in it. It seemed like Randal and I had watched two different films. Turns out we had.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:48 pm UTC
by addams
LordBritish wrote:
Kisama wrote:I don't want tvtrope links banned outright, I just want them to carry a minor cost in exchange for the potential hours wasted by people following those links. I also want to be entertained, and my suggestion would hopefully kill both birds.


I came back after three tropes. I'm so proud of myself.

Now to something completely different.

What could "technically it wasn't cheating" mean? I call cybersex.

Seconded.
One more and it passes.

Then, we can all get back to doing NOTHING!

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 3:56 pm UTC
by Ronsonic
SpringLoaded12 wrote:Did anyone else immediately think of Audie Murphy? When they made a movie of his life, they actually did portray some of his accomplishments as less than what they really were, to make it more believable for audiences.


Audie Murphy was a certifiable badass and a damn good actor. One of the few to ever exceed the 1000milliBronson threshold.

(And where I'm from, "technically not cheating" means, *ahem*, "cheating.")

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:06 pm UTC
by TheMaskedGecko
I read "wouldn't believe it" as a pun on two of that phrases meanings (the straight up ,you would not believe the day I've had" and the specific ,you wouldn't believe how crap that film is'. It made sense to me.

Hmm, who was it that said that dissecting jokes is like dissecting frogs: noones that interested and the joke dies. They spoke much truth.

Re: technical cheating. An example from some of my friends: imagine, if you will, two people [A and B] having a long term relationship but momentarily separated over something trivial. A third person [C] enters the scene, perhaps at a party, possibly elsewhere, and seeks carnal knowledge of B. What they're doing is not technically cheating but the Facebook bitching community agrees that it is de facto cheating (or to quote verbatim: "Oh me yarm, what a slimer. shes [sic] such a slut")
It occurs to me that this is more specific to the teenage world in which I reside.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:24 pm UTC
by Steve the Pocket
Huh. I got a completely different vibe out of it: Guy #1 is a jerk who blames his "crazy" ex for relationship problems that are his fault (Questionable Content did a strip that commented on the phenomenon of men calling their girlfriends/ex-girlfriends "crazy", but I can't be assed to hunt it down at the moment; suffice it to say the writer does not approve), and Guy #2 uses the "movie" comment as a set-up to call him out for it in that clever, indirect way that usually merits a response of "Yeah... HEY!"

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 4:57 pm UTC
by synack
Any way we could change the title to include a word at the end that starts with 'U'? Then it would share its acronym with something many of us are often thinking when talking with a guy like this.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:09 pm UTC
by AndrewGPaul
I just thought that the beardless fellow was implying that beardy man's life wasn't nearly as exciting or unusual as he thinks it is.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:31 pm UTC
by fauxmo
This is the first comic in a while that I've actually laughed at - sometimes it's nice to see a nice snappy retort and not the usual over-intellectualised or meme-based stuff. The difficulty most people seem to have is that they can't grasp that "believe" isn't being used in the literal context; as TheMaskedGecko said, it's a pun: when a critic reviews a show and says the characters aren't believable, they mean things such as the dialogue is poor, the protagonist is unlikeable, etc.

A_of_s_t wrote:What I mean to say is that the first stick figure says "no one would believe it" and the second one responses by saying that he agrees because the script would be poorly written. It's like they are having two completely different conversations. It's like the second stick figure is responding to the phrase "no one would watch it." But that's not what he said. So I'm a bit perplexed.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 5:32 pm UTC
by A_of_s_t
Klear wrote:This would be a nice comeback in a conversation. In comic form it's not enough.

And the reply indeed doesn't fit what the guy is saying.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks this.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:11 pm UTC
by fearless
TheMaskedGecko wrote:I read "wouldn't believe it" as a pun on two of that phrases meanings (the straight up ,you would not believe the day I've had" and the specific ,you wouldn't believe how crap that film is'. It made sense to me.


This is exactly how I understand it! ie - why would any film producer spend money making a film that has poor dialogue and a despicable main character? Sounds like a porno. (The despicable character being the person with the penis)

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:33 pm UTC
by TheMaskedGecko
fearless wrote: (The despicable character being the person with the penis)

Good rule for life there folks: Person possessing a penis=despicable

No, I do see what your saying, although I'm struggling to think of a 'real' film that matches these criteria. The best I can come up with is Clash of the Titans with its poor dialogue and one dimensional main character.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:48 pm UTC
by fearless
TheMaskedGecko wrote:
fearless wrote: (The despicable character being the person with the penis)

Good rule for life there folks: Person possessing a penis=despicable


lol i wasn't being sexist, I swear. It's just that the guys all seem to be on steroids and they don't even show the faces half the time. It's hard to love such a character...

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:53 pm UTC
by TheMaskedGecko
...and yet those women seem to manage it. The reason for this is probably that any porn with relateable, likable characters gets upgraded to art.

Re: 1006: "Sloppier Than Fiction"

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 6:54 pm UTC
by PolakoVoador
Great, I just lost almost 2h on TvTropes. And I'm at work. Curse you, Internet!