1056: "Felidae"

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby RealGrouchy » Wed May 16, 2012 5:56 am UTC

Well, there's always the Bobcats.

Alternately, OSX Mittens.

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby squidsquad » Wed May 16, 2012 5:57 am UTC

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby Pfhorrest » Wed May 16, 2012 6:00 am UTC

They can always move on to domesticated breeds.
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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby hardkrash » Wed May 16, 2012 6:06 am UTC

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby RichT » Wed May 16, 2012 6:06 am UTC

Technically neither "tyrannosaurus" or "smilodon" is a Latin name. They're both derived from Greek. The proper term is Linnean or taxonomic name, not Latin name.

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby Black Dynamite » Wed May 16, 2012 6:07 am UTC

I just watched a video about how Stygimoloch and Dracorex aren't real dinosaurs. It was cool to recognize those names.
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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby NotAllThere » Wed May 16, 2012 6:09 am UTC

Omegaton wrote:I guess I'm the only one bothered by him using "genuses" and not "genera."

Both are correct, according to the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary.

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby toadpipe » Wed May 16, 2012 6:26 am UTC

Lion is cooler than Jaguar? Obviously not a gearhead...

If anything, the Apple naming thing is going backward. The final outcome, MacOSX Nibbles.

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby jalohones » Wed May 16, 2012 6:27 am UTC

There's plenty of well-known felines not covered there: Tom, Sylvester, Snagglepuss. In fact, I'm pretty sure that Apple could release OS X Sylvester and then manage to sue Warner Bros for use of the name. It's victory all round!

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby jpk » Wed May 16, 2012 6:31 am UTC

jalohones wrote:There's plenty of well-known felines not covered there: Tom, Sylvester, Snagglepuss. In fact, I'm pretty sure that Apple could release OS X Sylvester and then manage to sue Warner Bros for use of the name. It's victory all round!


Ever since And How's Yer Pubic Hair got the rights to the "Budweiser" name, I couldn't be surprised by this at all.

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby Mellowed Out » Wed May 16, 2012 6:34 am UTC

VanI wrote:No, you are not. Just the first to - rightly - complain about it; just as I am the first to - again rightly - complain about split infinitives.


Complete myth I'm afraid, you can't split infinitives in Latin, but absolutely fine in English, they've been part of our language all the way back to Chaucer and beyond.

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby JCSH » Wed May 16, 2012 6:42 am UTC

What concerns me most is that Apple plans to take downgrade OS X about ten years into the past with the next version since mountain lion, puma and panther are just three different names for the same species.

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby VanI » Wed May 16, 2012 6:46 am UTC

Mellowed Out wrote:
VanI wrote:No, you are not. Just the first to - rightly - complain about it; just as I am the first to - again rightly - complain about split infinitives.


Complete myth I'm afraid, you can't split infinitives in Latin, but absolutely fine in English, they've been part of our language all the way back to Chaucer and beyond.


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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby Eternal Density » Wed May 16, 2012 6:46 am UTC

I don't think Lions are especially cool. Meh.


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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby JJ0 » Wed May 16, 2012 6:48 am UTC

Since when was panther another name for a puma? Panther is the melanistic form of the jaguar or leopard (and as the graph shows is derived from the genus containing them, and notably not pumas). Even wikipedia concedes that black pumas don't exist.

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby Arancaytar » Wed May 16, 2012 6:49 am UTC

dbmag9 wrote:I guess 'Cougar' is no longer an option thanks to its more recent slang meaning, but it can't just be me who thinks the word 'ocelot' is awesome. Also ocelots are awesome. :D


Ubuntu took that one last year (and Lynx the year before), likely on purpose to troll the marketing people at Apple. :P
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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby Muscleguy » Wed May 16, 2012 6:53 am UTC

The coolest badass latin name has to be Vampiroteuthis infernalis, what could be badder than the vampire squid from hell?

As for OSX name they could go to Wildcat, Felis silvestris. There are lots of wildcat sub species out there to be going on with for some time to come.

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby keithl » Wed May 16, 2012 7:05 am UTC

Two words: Genetic Engineering!

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby Eternal Density » Wed May 16, 2012 7:13 am UTC

Essential research here
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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby mybrainhurts » Wed May 16, 2012 7:15 am UTC

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby drhex » Wed May 16, 2012 7:31 am UTC

Smilodon Populator would win in a fight against Smilodon Fatalis, although the latter has a cooler name :mrgreen:

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby Wlerin » Wed May 16, 2012 7:35 am UTC

RichT wrote:Technically neither "tyrannosaurus" or "smilodon" is a Latin name. They're both derived from Greek. The proper term is Linnean or taxonomic name, not Latin name.

Oh? Since when is the -us ending Greek? Aye, the roots are Greek, but the words are in Latin form, hence "Latin name".

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby Iranon » Wed May 16, 2012 7:46 am UTC

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby gambisk » Wed May 16, 2012 7:48 am UTC

Whys wrote:Move up the food chain. What eats cats? :]


OSX Witchdoctor?

or are you thinking more along the lines of what chases domestic cats in that case "OSX Beagle"

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby hypocacculus » Wed May 16, 2012 8:31 am UTC

Genuses may or may not be a valid plural of 'genus' but no self respecting taxonomist would use it - at least not when I was working as one and with them. A quick glance at any taxonomic literature would tell you that. I recoiled when I saw 'Genuses' on the graph, it's just.. so... wrong. And not in a good way. I imagine I would easily make the same sort of blunder if I strayed into computer geekery rather than biological geekery.

As has already been pointed out, the Linnean, or scientific names themselves are an unholy mix of Latin and Greek along with the names of places and people. A few particularly crusty taxonomists disapprove of the use of names that are not entirely descriptive of the creature concerned. Colloquially taxonimists call them 'names' as opposed to 'common names'. As in, "What is the name of that? "Oh, it's a Hypocacculus metallescens" . There are more things with a name than a common name. If you work with invertebrates, there are waaaaay more things with a name than a common name. The generic and species part of the names in print should be, by convention, written in italics if you want to do things properly, or underlined (which confuses people expecting a hyperlink). Other parts of the classification remain in normal text. Also, depending on the context, the name should include other taxonomic information such as the family, order, class etc and also the name of the person that created the species part of the name at the end (not in italics). Why? Because if you've never heard of Hypocacculus, you'd never know it was in the family Histeridae. Hell, you might not even know Histeridae were beetles, so you'd want to know that it was in order Coleopetera as well. And if you want to know which idiot/genius declared this insect belonged in this corner of beetledom, you want to know it was Erichson.

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby Seli » Wed May 16, 2012 8:32 am UTC

Muscleguy wrote:The coolest badass latin name has to be Vampiroteuthis infernalis, what could be badder than the vampire squid from hell?

...


Well, there is the recently describes wasp species Nanocthulhu lovecrafti.

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby RocketSurgeon » Wed May 16, 2012 8:34 am UTC

OSX Jeff!

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby conorjh » Wed May 16, 2012 8:36 am UTC

How do you titillate an ocelot? You oscillate its tits a lot.

So, yes, ocelot should be next.

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby Xenobiologista » Wed May 16, 2012 8:40 am UTC

JJ0 wrote:Since when was panther another name for a puma? Panther is the melanistic form of the jaguar or leopard (and as the graph shows is derived from the genus containing them, and notably not pumas). Even wikipedia concedes that black pumas don't exist.


It's a "common" name for the puma apparently used in some parts of the USA. People have all kinds of different common names for stuff and they overlap lots of times. Europeans did this kind of thing all the time, going around the world and naming animals after stuff that looked familiar. That's why we have Latin binomal species names to avoid confusion. You might as well complain that both Erithacus rubecula and Turdus migratorius are both called robins even though they don't look anything like each other besides the red breasts.

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby residuum » Wed May 16, 2012 8:47 am UTC

I think, the next version will be Sea Lion. And after that OS X 10.10 Lion Lion.

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby DocMesa » Wed May 16, 2012 8:47 am UTC

I have the latest alpha version of OS X 10.9 "Bobcat".

Anyone want me to mail it to them? :twisted:

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby babble » Wed May 16, 2012 8:48 am UTC

VanI wrote:
Omegaton wrote:I guess I'm the only one bothered by him using "genuses" and not "genera."


No, you are not. Just the first to - rightly - complain about it; just as I am the first to - again rightly - complain about split infinitives.


There's nothing wrong with splitting infinitives, especially when it helps clarity.
edit: someone else said it first.

Smilodon is a Latin form? really?

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby reegee » Wed May 16, 2012 9:00 am UTC

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby despairbear » Wed May 16, 2012 9:06 am UTC

I'm still hoping to see "OSX Lolcat".

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby J L » Wed May 16, 2012 9:37 am UTC

JJ0 wrote:Since when was panther another name for a puma? Panther is the melanistic form of the jaguar or leopard (and as the graph shows is derived from the genus containing them, and notably not pumas). Even wikipedia concedes that black pumas don't exist.

Thank you. "Black panther" is such a common tautology, at least over here (and always followed by the explanation about jaguars), I also thought it was a mistake.

And "lions" are probably the uncoolest cats ever. But there's no arguing about cats.

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby niky » Wed May 16, 2012 9:49 am UTC

Steve the Pocket wrote:Well, there's one problem Android will never have. We all laughed at their decision to name their versions after desserts. Who's laughing now?


They dodge a bullet with "Quiche Lorraine", but after "Watermelon", I'm drawing a big fat blank.

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby Netzach » Wed May 16, 2012 9:53 am UTC

Why would an ocelot win against a lynx? The lynxes I've encountered were about 20 kg I'd say, but they can be almost twice that size I'm told. How large are ocelots then? I thought they were tiny.

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby VectorZero » Wed May 16, 2012 10:04 am UTC

niky wrote:
Steve the Pocket wrote:Well, there's one problem Android will never have. We all laughed at their decision to name their versions after desserts. Who's laughing now?
They dodge a bullet with "Quiche Lorraine", but after "Watermelon", I'm drawing a big fat blank.
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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby JCSH » Wed May 16, 2012 10:31 am UTC

Xenobiologista wrote:
JJ0 wrote:Since when was panther another name for a puma? Panther is the melanistic form of the jaguar or leopard (and as the graph shows is derived from the genus containing them, and notably not pumas). Even wikipedia concedes that black pumas don't exist.


It's a "common" name for the puma apparently used in some parts of the USA. People have all kinds of different common names for stuff and they overlap lots of times. Europeans did this kind of thing all the time, going around the world and naming animals after stuff that looked familiar. That's why we have Latin binomal species names to avoid confusion. You might as well complain that both Erithacus rubecula and Turdus migratorius are both called robins even though they don't look anything like each other besides the red breasts.


Also there's the hockey team called Florida Panthers which is named after the Florida panther which is a subspecies of the cougar which is also called a puma.
And according to Wikipedia (and Guinness Book of Records), in English there's over 40 different names for the puma concolor (a.k.a. puma, cougar, mountain lion,...)

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Re: 1056: Felidae

Postby pelya » Wed May 16, 2012 10:59 am UTC

Oh noez, the comic is not based on the scientific data! The "coolness" of the cat name is something entirely subjective, but you can totally measure the name popularity, using the number of Google search results:

cat - 2,900,OOO,OOO (obviously most popular)
tiger - 544,OOO,OOO
lion - 468,OOO,OOO
jaguar - 359,OOO,OOO (this feline is popular for naming cars, drinks and game consoles)
puma - 311,OOO,OOO
hello kitty - 211,OOO,OOO
leopard - 209,OOO,OOO
cougar - 154,OOO,OOO
panther - 135,OOO,OOO
tom cat - 125,OOO,OOO; tomcat - 47,900,000 (lot of results not related to felines)
garfield - 107,OOO,OOO; garfield cat - 14,500,OOO (not so common English name, so it beats Sylvester cat)
sylvester cat - 104,OOO,OOO
wild cat - 96,100,OOO; wildcat - 33,200,000
bob cat - 68,700,000; bobcat - 44,OOO,OOO
lynx - 68,100,OOO
ceiling cat - 60,100,OOO
cheetah - 59,8OO,OOO
snow leopard - 57,400,OOO
mountain lion - 50,200,OOO
puss in boots - 27,500,OOO
tigger - 19,300,OOO
まる 猫 - 18,000,000; maru cat - 8,250,000; maru - 48,400,OOO (common Japanese name)
colocolo - 16,500,OOO (lot of results not related to felines)
ocelot - 11,700,OOO
caracal - 9,57O,OOO
cheshire cat - 7,970,OOO
mittens cat - 6,8OO,OOO
housecat - 6,130,OOO; house cat - 297,000,000 ("house cat" query returns lot of unrelated results)
simon's cat - 5,710,000
serval - 5,310,OOO
lolcat - 3,890,OOO

And the tiger beats the lion. Stripes for the win!


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