jwthomp2 wrote:There is a simple test to prove whether or not the JFK assassination and 9/11 were conspiracies or not, and it lies in the video evidence.
For the JFK case, let me introduce exhibit 1, the infamous Zapruder film.
While I agree withthe statement that the evidence is in the video, I can not abide by the 'back and to the left' mantra as proof of anything. The focus on such a complicated physical situation is detrimental to actually talking about the real evidence because it hogs the limelight undeservedly.
Debunking "back and to the left": I have watched the zapruder film many times, as I am sure most people here have. I have watched it in slowmotion frame by frame, I have watched it digitally enhanced and even seen it with strange filters. When the bullet hits his head actually jerks very quickly forward ever so slightly, about a centimetre or two, and then more slowly (but still a fast movement) it moves back, and to the left. The spray of the exit wound seems to come out the right side of the head and if I had only seen the shot second of video and knew nothing more about the case I would assume the shot came from the left side of the convoy. It is clear that the shot did not come from this direction and no one is claiming that it did. Of the two positions that are most often given for shooters I would say that the spray could be consistent with both, and that it shows nothing conclusive. None of what I have said is meant to imply that the president was not shot from the front, just that the zapruder film does not prove it.
One thing that the zapruder film does show are the reactions fo the drivers of the limousine. These are trained secret service drivers and the biggest priority of their training is to keep the president safe. The slow down as they enter the stretch of road where the incident occurred. When the first bullet hits they turn around and watch, continuing to slow down. They wait until the presidents head explodes and then they calmly turn around, even the one who didnt have to watch the road, and start to accelerate away.
There is video evidence of a conspiracy. I submit exhibit 2, the last statement made by Jack Ruby to the media a few days before his death.http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=we2eucWXqjg
Exhibit 3, a video from just around the corner of the schoolbook depository of secret service agents being ordered to stand down from their positions at the rear of the car around 2 or 3 minutes (by my guess) before the shooting. The Zapruder film also confirms the abscence of these men. Can anyone here find any other footage of a us president riding slowly in a convoy through crowds without 2 to 4 secret service men on the corners of his car?http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=XY02Qkuc_f8
Exhibit 4, testimony from the lover of Lindon B. Johnson, who came forward much later. She claims that Johnson knew of the killing beforehand, celebrated it's success with an exclusive party, and implicated to her "oil people" as having been involved.
For the most comprehensive collection of footage relating to the assassination I recommend Part 1 of "Evidence of Revision" which can be found here: http://freedocumentaries.org/film.php?id=235
. This film is just the video with no kindly grandfather voice telling you how to interpret it. It includes recorded witness testimony and many news broadcasts.
although it is sound and not video, another important recording is the testimony of Howard Hunt, author and CIA operative at the time. Who claims on his deathbed that he was personally involved with the assassination plan in his capacity as a CIA operative: exhibit 5.http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=OlpL7qZxPhA
The evidence overwhelmingly suggests that the assassination was a conspiracy, ie that more than just Oswald were involved. There is also strong evidence that Hoover and Johnson were involved. That means coup.
Wikipedia: A coup d’état (pronounced /kuːdeɪˈtɑː/ AHD: [ko͞o"dā tä]), often simply called a coup, is the sudden unconstitutional overthrow of a government by a part — usually small — of the state establishment — usually the military — to replace the branch of the stricken government, either with another civil government or with a military government
Why is everyone so apathetic about this? It is not over, an illegal government, once it has attained power, is able to subvert the course of democracy to keep itself in power, and this has happened on at least two occasions since JFK was shot. I try to get people to talk about this because I care about the citizens of the US and they are on very dangerous ground. Most of the people I know outside of the US don't even really question that there was a conspiracy and that it was a coup and the more cynical ones say things along the lines of "oh well it's their own fault they refuse to help themelves" which I think is an immoral position to take. The problem is that the media in the US is not telling the public what is happening anymore. They chant doublespeak until it is believed and deliberately obfuscate and ignore the actual important issues. Until the US public takes back it's media nothing will change.
If the JFK conspiracy is true isn't it time we stopped trusting the official version given by his killers in subsequent incidents and situtaions like RFK, M.L. KIng jnr., jonestown, South America, Afganistan, Iraq. etc? Maybe it's time we started believing the conspiracy theories and asking the government to prove them wrong. Or to prove the official version at least.
***This post is my own opinion and no claim is being made that it is in any way scientific nor intended to be construed as such by any reader***