Structured Debate?

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Re: Structured Debate?

Postby Philwelch » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:48 pm UTC

It's amusing that you ask "what's wrong with this" while leaving out the entire part of my quote that explains exactly what's wrong with this.

Simply put, there's no room to honestly discuss, think about, or explore these issues when we discuss them in a format that's designed primarily as a teaching mechanism for schoolchildren.
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Re: Structured Debate?

Postby Zamfir » Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:18 pm UTC

I never encountered that as a teaching mechanism, so perhaps I am missing something that would be obvious if I had.

That it is also used as a teaching mechanism seems not in itself a downside, reading books for example is also a teaching mechanism. Can you give an example how things go wrong?

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Re: Structured Debate?

Postby Kaiyas » Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:51 pm UTC

Rather than spewing facts, maybe each side should be required to formulate a solution at some point in the debate. Over which the quibbling may continue- but it at the very least it provides an opportunity for input rather than recitation.
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Re: Structured Debate?

Postby Philwelch » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:21 am UTC

Kaiyas wrote:Rather than spewing facts, maybe each side should be required to formulate a solution at some point in the debate. Over which the quibbling may continue- but it at the very least it provides an opportunity for input rather than recitation.


Except "formulating a solution" is usually part of the question. For instance: "Resolved: The United States should abolish capital punishment". Formulating a solution would be to say...."The United States should abolish capital punishment". Unless you got into implementation detail ("The United States should enact a constitutional amendment...") which only distracts from the issue at hand rather than clarifying it.
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Re: Structured Debate?

Postby Azrael » Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:56 pm UTC

Reality speaks, and it says "No, you don't have the time for this."

So ... unstickied.

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Re: Structured Debate?

Postby Pez Dispens3r » Sat Mar 14, 2009 12:21 am UTC

Naww.

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Re: Structured Debate?

Postby drunken » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:26 pm UTC

We could always go with what I was planning, which is to start an informal version of this in forum games. This requires no extra mod effort. Just start a thread with a list of topics, get people to reply with what topics they want to debate and which side they will take. Then when you have enough people for a topic spawn a new thread and start debating. Obviously linking it here would be a good idea too.
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Re: Structured Debate?

Postby JonScholar » Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:29 pm UTC

Bumping, in order to request that this idea is reconsidered. I would highly support structured debate on these forums. If Azreal can not, or does not want to oversee and moderate said debates, then perhaps another moderator would volunteer their time.


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