Killing everyone on welfare seems to be getting pretty off topic, to me. I'd like to pay more taxes than I do and have a stronger governmental safety network. So, yeah, I both do and am willing to supply funds to keep people on welfare afloat. I am not happy about ERs providing lots of expensive end of life care (beyond hospice style care) to anyone who can't just pay for it up front. I am also not happy about governments or charities telling parents that they can't abort, or can't turn a uterine replicator off, but, also, that they won't pay for the care of the developing human.
I think that unhealthy babies is the core of the issue, especially with this hypothetical situation, because we're already getting to the point, and this system would push it much further, where children that with 100% certainly would have died can now be saved. And pro-life folks are saying that we are morally obligated to save the lives of fetuses that would have spontaneously aborted or died in the first few weeks, without stepping up with the resources.
guenther, I'm sorry I horrified you. I think that it is completely wrong for anyone or force parents to abort children at any stage. I absolutely applaud your strong protection instinct towards your children, and I think that only parents who desperately want to protect children should have children. Parents who want to get rid of children absolutely should not have that child right now. My moral basis here is to prevent children from getting bad care and low resources.
Dark567 wrote:I personally think my human cells are more important then plant cells
And I personally think that plant cells, being autotrophs, are much more important than any human cells, including my own. And yet I kill millions of those plant cells every day. I'm really, completely OK with killing cells, including human blastocysts.
As we've discussed already, this hypothetical puts pro-choice people on a scale between those who support a women's right to decide what she should do with her body and those who essentially think that a blastocyst is valueless (me). I thought that this hypothetical would put pro-life people on a continuum between those who think that there is a value at conception, given continued health through development (those who are not horrified at the very high rate of natural spontaneous abortions) and those who think that there is value at conception, whether the conceived thing would be human cells that never developed a brain or not, and who think that spontaneous abortions should be mourned like a teenager killed in a car crash. Strangely, we don't appear to see that continuum in the discussion here, which has surprised me.