Boy Scouts May Lift Ban on Gay Boys but not Gay Leaders

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Re: Boy Scouts May Lift Ban on Gay Boys but not Gay Leaders

Postby Tirian » Wed May 08, 2013 5:34 am UTC

Pfhorrest wrote:but in either case the issue never came up because sex and religion weren't exactly topics of conversation. We were too busy camping and learning sciences and crafts and cool stuff like that.


My vague and underinformed perception of the situation is that most Scouts in your situation only discovered the problem when some Grand Poobah at the council level would interview you for your promotion to Eagle Scout and would only then discover that you fail to exemplify the virtue of reverence and are thus unfit for promotion. But I also suspect that it is a regional issue and probably even varies from one Grand Poobah to the next.

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Re: Boy Scouts May Lift Ban on Gay Boys but not Gay Leaders

Postby Xeio » Thu May 23, 2013 10:33 pm UTC

Good news everyone!

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Re: Boy Scouts May Lift Ban on Gay Boys but not Gay Leaders

Postby philsov » Thu May 23, 2013 10:56 pm UTC

:D

we can all agree that kids are better off when they are in Scouting.

http://www.scouting.org/sitecore/conten ... sults.aspx

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"For 103 years, the Boy Scouts of America has been a part of the fabric of this nation, with a focus on working together to deliver the nation's foremost youth program of character development and values-based leadership training.

"Based on growing input from within the Scouting family, the BSA leadership chose to conduct an additional review of the organization's long-standing membership policy and its impact on Scouting's mission. This review created an outpouring of feedback from the Scouting family and the American public, from both those who agree with the current policy and those who support a change.

"Today, following this review, the most comprehensive listening exercise in Scouting's history the approximate 1,400 voting members of the Boy Scouts of America's National Council approved a resolution to remove the restriction denying membership to youth on the basis of sexual orientation alone. The resolution also reinforces that Scouting is a youth program, and any sexual conduct, whether heterosexual or homosexual, by youth of Scouting age is contrary to the virtues of Scouting. A change to the current membership policy for adult leaders was not under consideration; thus, the policy for adults remains in place. The BSA thanks all the national voting members who participated in this process and vote.

"This policy change is effective Jan. 1, 2014, allowing the Boy Scouts of America the transition time needed to communicate and implement this policy to its approximately 116,000 Scouting units.

"The Boy Scouts of America will not sacrifice its mission, or the youth served by the movement, by allowing the organization to be consumed by a single, divisive, and unresolved societal issue. As the National Executive Committee just completed a lengthy review process, there are no plans for further review on this matter.

"While people have different opinions about this policy, we can all agree that kids are better off when they are in Scouting. Going forward, our Scouting family will continue to focus on reaching and serving youth in order to help them grow into good, strong citizens. America's youth need Scouting, and by focusing on the goals that unite us, we can continue to accomplish incredible things for young people and the communities we serve."
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Re: Boy Scouts May Lift Ban on Gay Boys but not Gay Leaders

Postby addams » Fri May 24, 2013 2:43 am UTC

Yeah.
It is a good thing to have Values.

Sex is not a value.
Well?

Now; The Scouts can get on with Building Fires and Doing Good Deeds.

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Seems incompatible.

Fire bugs in Training?
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Re: Boy Scouts May Lift Ban on Gay Boys but not Gay Leaders

Postby philsov » Fri May 24, 2013 1:58 pm UTC

I was always a fan of the "help old lady across street, then set her alight like she was a witch" scenario.
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Re: Boy Scouts May Lift Ban on Gay Boys but not Gay Leaders

Postby addams » Sat May 25, 2013 4:33 am UTC

philsov wrote:I was always a fan of the "help old lady across street, then set her alight like she was a witch" scenario.

See? It is not Scouting that is the problem.
It is The People.

People will misunderstand, because they want to.
It's light a fire.
It's it help and old lady.

Not help an old lady by setting her on fire.
Yes. Yes. The Europeans did it. The east Indians did it.
Loads of people did it.

It is still not part of Scouting.
Of course, smoking Pot is not part of Scouting, either.
Not officially. Many a scout has earned his Pot Leaf badge.

Some of the sweetest campfires. Wholesome healthy young people talking very slowly.
It can be so sweet. Some things are private. Even in Scouting.
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