Isaac Hill wrote:If women can test their drinks discretely, then rapists won't know which women are testing their drinks. An overt test kit means select another target. A covert kit means any woman might notice her drink's been tampered with. Maybe she just leaves the bar. Maybe she calls the cops. Rapists would have to be wary of an entire gender because a few members of that gender have the means and will to severely damage their lives.
Hmm, basically the concealed carry argument adapted to a different crime. Makes sense, really. Hidden defenses in common use can cause caution even when no defenses exist.
yurell wrote:"Why weren't you wearing rape-proof nailpolish? What were you wearing that night? Why'd you agree to have drinks with him?'
While I'm glad that this exists to help prevent those rapes which are committed using drugs, I do hesitate at the idea it may become expected for women to fork out the money for these products (financially disadvantaging them), and that its absence may be used to paint the circumstance as at least partly her fault through 'recklessness'. Especially since three quarters of rapes are by acquaintances. But as I said, ultimately I'm glad that these things are becoming available to help protect one's self in a world where rape and rape-culture is prevalent.
People can and do blame victims regardless of this nail polish existing. It's not going to start that...cat's outta the bag, there. Someone wants to victim blame, they'll find a way.
Xenomortis wrote:Prescription only in many countries (used for insomnia treatment, tightly controlled) and outright illegal in the US.
Yeah, that pretty much makes using roofies illegal. They're also very rare.
But ask yourself; have tight controls on cocaine worked out?
Agreed. I don't think making them MORE illegal is going to matter significantly.
jestingrabbit wrote: johnny_7713 wrote:
Also in a world where women fear the social consequences of clearly rejecting a guy* I think it's valuable for their to exists a cover drink testing option.
Fair enough, but this is clearly a papering over of the cracks rather than an actual fix of the real problem. Its ridiculous that women should feel so pressured, that male violence against women is so unimpeded. Is it so wrong for feminists to point that out, that this isn't really a fix, that its not dealing with the substantial issues?
If it prevents crime, it is indeed a fix. It isn't a complete fix, certainly, but it is not merely a papering over of the cracks.
Imposition of real costs upon people who commit crimes IS dealing with the problem. Better detection is usually a part of that. Doesn't matter what the penalties are if they never get detected, and can freely continue acting the same way.
Thesh wrote:I wonder... Could you put a coating on the glasses themselves?
Ooooh, that seems like a possibility. I'm not sure of this particular formulation, so I obviously can't say for sure, but if it does work out, there are some interesting possibilities there. A cup that automatically colors up in the presence of <list of bad stuff> sounds wildly sci-fi, and also extremely nifty.