PAstrychef wrote:I don't want men to stop having sexy thoughts. I just don't like the fact that people have sexy thoughts often leads to an expectation that women modify their dress and behavior so that men won't assault them, or be distracted from their lives by being forced to have sexy thoughts because a recognizably female body just entered their field of view.
Perhaps if breasts were on view more often, men wouldn't find it necessary to watch them through binoculars. There are places where topless women excite little to no comment at all. And not all of them are found in National Geographic.
If men walked around with their penii hanging out, it wouldn't be okay for women to randomly grope them.
What is ethical and permissible has little to do with it in a practical sense. Tie a steak around your neck and go walking in bear country and your bear bait. Unless there is a sudden shift in behaviors there aren't too many places on earth where a totally nude woman will be safe outside of certain contexts. And for the foreseeable future that probably won't change. Fashion per se is about showing off the wares. If you want a barometer, then wait for the moment when fashion doesn't mean anything anymore.
At what point in civilization has law not been a tool to impose rules on behavior? And what does justification amount to?Tyndmyr wrote:If you see something and think it is inappropriate, that is fine. Right, wrong, whatever. When you start trying to make them do what you want them to do, well...now your justification for why you have to do that matters. If you don't have a pretty good justification(like, this keeps people safe from actual, demonstratable harm), you probably shouldn't be doing that.
And can somebody tell me a job, a normal job, that encourages either men or women to go topless?
I believe that a women should breastfeed whenever and wherever she chooses, but there are prudes. And by the way, did anyone at the graduation complain, I thought the ruckus happened afterword?