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Dinosaur feathers and colours found in amber

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:21 pm UTC
by Angua

Re: Dinosaur feathers and colours found in amber

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:18 pm UTC
by Thesh
Horribly written article. Absolutely no discussion about cloning or the movie 'Jurassic Park'? Those should be the bulk of the headline, and at the lead-in to the article should be something like "'Jurassic Park' fossil found: Dinosaur material found in amber could lead the way to cloning of dinosaurs in the next 20-30 years, according to some experts. While many scientists are excited, others are expressing concern about the ethics of cloning..."

Re: Dinosaur feathers and colours found in amber

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:00 am UTC
by Tyndmyr
Gonna guess that 99million years is a little past the shelf life of DNA.

Let's splice some crap in there, eh?

Re: Dinosaur feathers and colours found in amber

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:41 am UTC
by sardia
Tyndmyr wrote:Gonna guess that 99million years is a little past the shelf life of DNA.

Let's splice some crap in there, eh?

We need to create hybrids to stabilize the clones. Let's go with octopus so it can change color to match the ones in the movies, add alligator for increased birth rate, and raptors for land falconry, and deliver it all with genetically modified HIV as the delivery mechanism. Then we'll dose them with cosmic rays to have controlled mutations. What could go wrong?

Re: Dinosaur feathers and colours found in amber

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:43 am UTC
by Liri
Thesh wrote:Horribly written article. Absolutely no discussion about cloning or the movie 'Jurassic Park'? Those should be the bulk of the headline, and at the lead-in to the article should be something like "'Jurassic Park' fossil found: Dinosaur material found in amber could lead the way to cloning of dinosaurs in the next 20-30 years, according to some experts. While many scientists are excited, others are expressing concern about the ethics of cloning..."

That's the first thing I told my friend when we were at a concert tonight - not one mention of DNA, cloning, etc.. Not even to say it can't be done!

It is pretty incredible though.

Re: Dinosaur feathers and colours found in amber

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:09 am UTC
by Sizik
Liri wrote:
Thesh wrote:Horribly written article. Absolutely no discussion about cloning or the movie 'Jurassic Park'? Those should be the bulk of the headline, and at the lead-in to the article should be something like "'Jurassic Park' fossil found: Dinosaur material found in amber could lead the way to cloning of dinosaurs in the next 20-30 years, according to some experts. While many scientists are excited, others are expressing concern about the ethics of cloning..."

That's the first thing I told my friend when we were at a concert tonight - not one mention of DNA, cloning, etc.. Not even to say it can't be done!

It is pretty incredible though.


CNN's got you covered

In the "Jurassic Park" movie franchise, scientists extract dinosaur DNA from blood found inside insects preserved in amber.

McKellar said that soft tissue and decayed blood from the tail were found in the amber but no genetic material was preserved.

"Unfortunately, the Jurassic Park answer is still a 'no' -- this is firmly in the realm of science fiction," he said.

Re: Dinosaur feathers and colours found in amber

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:23 am UTC
by maybeagnostic
I love the perspective in this image but
On closer inspection, however, it turned out to be the tail of a feathered dinosaur about the size of a sparrow.
...this quickly takes it from impressive and a little scary to absolutely adorable.

Re: Dinosaur feathers and colours found in amber

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:25 am UTC
by Xenomortis
Screw flying cars, I want my pet dino-sparrow.

Re: Dinosaur feathers and colours found in amber

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:30 am UTC
by ThemePark
maybeagnostic wrote:I love the perspective in this image but
On closer inspection, however, it turned out to be the tail of a feathered dinosaur about the size of a sparrow.
...this quickly takes it from impressive and a little scary to absolutely adorable.

Just remember, Gremlins were small too...

Re: Dinosaur feathers and colours found in amber

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:37 am UTC
by speising
it definitely belonged to a feathered dinosaur and not an ancient bird.

Hu? What's the difference?

Re: Dinosaur feathers and colours found in amber

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:01 pm UTC
by Liri
speising wrote:
it definitely belonged to a feathered dinosaur and not an ancient bird.

Hu? What's the difference?

We (humans and all other tetrapods) diverged from fish. There are still fish today, and we don't generality consider ourselves fish.

Though I agree with you in part - in my vertebrate zoology class, we referred to that lineage as the group of dinosaurs that evolved into birds. BUT every Claude clade has certain defining characteristics, and it seems the traits that distinguish bird from the rest of Dinosauria were already well-established at that time.

I still call myself a Gnathastome, Actinopterygian Sarcopterygian fish, however (Jawed, bony, and fleshy-finned).

Re: Dinosaur feathers and colours found in amber

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:09 pm UTC
by Whizbang
If we're not fish, then why do we tell heartbroken people "There are plenty of fish in the sea"? Huh?

Checkmate, atheists!

Re: Dinosaur feathers and colours found in amber

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 5:13 am UTC
by CorruptUser
Whizbang wrote:If we're not fish, then why do we tell heartbroken people "There are plenty of fish in the sea"? Huh?

Checkmate, atheists!


I always thought that phrase was about the merits of aquatic bestiality.

Re: Dinosaur feathers and colours found in amber

Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 8:56 am UTC
by flicky1991
CorruptUser wrote:
Whizbang wrote:If we're not fish, then why do we tell heartbroken people "There are plenty of fish in the sea"? Huh?

Checkmate, atheists!


I always thought that phrase was about the merits of aquatic bestiality.

Brainfart - interpreted "that phrase" as referring to "checkmate, atheists" and could not see the connection...