Maseiken wrote:You know how long that takes? HUNDREDS OF FUCKING YEARS. (Which are like normal years, but they go past much faster(That was a joke)
You can pass of 1337-speak as a Natural byproduct of Language evolution. It fucking isn't, Come back to me if people are still saying"w00t" in 200 years, and I might consider it to be a proper word.
You are placing an arbitrary requirement for what is a "natural byproduct of language evolution." Why does a word have to be spoken in the future by 200 years in order to be considered proper? Words come and go within decades (tubular anyone?) and are still a natural byproduct of language evolution.
To use a biological example which may be incorrect, but an elephant seal's nose isn't useful. It may even cause the extinction of the species. That doesn't make it unnatural. Usefulness is not a measure of naturalness, even in language.
Maseiken wrote:Until then, 1337-speak is still a a slang subset. This is a perfect example of pop-culture spreading beyond it's chosen medium. Saying that what everyone accepts to be a definition is fine. Go ask someone what w00t means. Now ask someone else, and someone else, and someone else. I'd be very surprised if you got anything more specific than "General excitement or happiness" and even more surprised if this was consistent.
Subsets are valid evolutionary changes. They could be successful or not. I would also question who sets the medium limits of pop-culture? Also, why is consistency required? Words mean different things in different parts of the US, does this make them less valid?
Maseiken wrote:Fads in common vocabulary are not Evolutionary shifts in language.
You don't need an evolutionary *shift* to make a fad part of the evolution of languages. I do recommend reading Dawkins on genes and memes. The idea is even if the memes of leetspeak don't survive, parts of it may. That makes it a valid part of language evolution by virtue of being simply a change.