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Vampiritic electronic tattoos (not spam)

Postby Gunfingers » Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:30 pm UTC

WANT

There's no way this isn't going to be cool if they ever actually implement it.

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Postby Ian Ex Machina » Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:31 pm UTC

That is so amazing, I would love one of those, I mean you could change what was shown when you needed to, no more money for tattooists I suppose?
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Postby Belial » Fri Feb 29, 2008 2:41 pm UTC

coolest. shit. ever.
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Postby 4=5 » Fri Feb 29, 2008 3:56 pm UTC

hmmmm, if they make it power hungry enough it's sorta like free exercise


and I wouldn't want the display under my skin

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Postby Dream » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:04 pm UTC

In this case, does "concept" mean "working prototype"? The article wasn't clear on whether he was demonstrating the device itself, the technology, or was actually using it as intended.

But this is the coolest thing I've seen in a really long time. The possibilities are endless. Porn, spam, lolcatz, flash ads, you name it, the entire internet is right there on your arm. I wonder can the membrane be felt beneath the skin? I would imagine that would put off many people...
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Postby ZeroSum » Fri Feb 29, 2008 4:11 pm UTC

Do want, though security would be a major issue. I'm totally ready for cybernetic implants.

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Postby grythyttan » Fri Feb 29, 2008 6:01 pm UTC

This looks really freakin' awesome! I hope it hits the shelves in a reasonable amount of time. I mean, when we have stuff like this we know that we have reached the future.
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Postby Ishindri » Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:10 pm UTC

Holy crap, I want one. Like ZeroSum said, it's about time for commercial cybernetic implants. Too bad it's only a concept at the moment.
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Postby Garm » Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:57 pm UTC

I wonder if you could use this for the purposes of Caller ID on your cell phone. You wouldn't have to take it out of your pocket, just look at your forearm. :D

This looks really cool, I'd say I wanted one but am a fairly hairy guy. The idea of shaving my arms to see my sweet, ever-changing tattoo is one I'm not very fond of.
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Postby 22/7 » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:16 pm UTC

What about on the inside of your forearm (that's probably where I'd want it). Are you hairy there too?
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Postby Garm » Fri Feb 29, 2008 9:57 pm UTC

22/7 wrote:What about on the inside of your forearm (that's probably where I'd want it). Are you hairy there too?


Yeah, but not nearly so much. That's a good idea but I think the back of the forearm would be less hurty. Also, I'm not one of those people who has the face of my watch on the inside of my wrist. The act of flipping my arm over just to look at the time is kinda nnoying to me.
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Postby 22/7 » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:52 pm UTC

Well, since the natural position is actually about half way between the two positions we're talking about right now...
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Postby Azrael001 » Fri Feb 29, 2008 10:59 pm UTC

The fact that it could also monitor blood for problems is also cool.
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Postby Maurog » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:32 pm UTC

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Postby scowdich » Fri Feb 29, 2008 11:46 pm UTC

Since this uses blood sugar, I could see it as a good device for diabetics as a glucose monitor.

Also, customizable tattoo? Fuck yeah.

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Postby Adalwolf » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:14 am UTC

Pfft, lame.

Just get a real tattoo.
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Postby Zug-Zug » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:17 am UTC

scowdich wrote:Also, customizable tattoo? Fuck yeah.


I think most people will be most happy with the fact that you can turn it off when you don't want others to see it (for job related stuff). ;)
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Postby Amnesiasoft » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:39 am UTC

That is awesome. But I'll wait until they have color displays ;)

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Postby benjhuey » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:40 am UTC

The link wrote:It´s inserted through a small incision as a tightly rolled tube, and then it unfurls beneath the skin to align between skin and muscle.

Cool, but at the same time creepy. I could definitely go for a personal clock, though.

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Postby Belial » Sat Mar 01, 2008 1:58 am UTC

Adalwolf wrote:Pfft, lame.

Just get a real tattoo.


Don't fight the future, Adalwolf. Just get a rotating "Norse god of the day" tattoo to go with your advanced computer, your factory-made clothes, and your store-bought food, and accept it.
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Postby Malice » Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:15 am UTC

benjhuey wrote:Cool, but at the same time creepy. I could definitely go for a personal clock, though.


This might be a silly question to ask on a nerd forum, but do you really need your watch implanted under your skin?
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Postby Belial » Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:20 am UTC

yes

Plus, if I can get a readout of my BAC, Blood Oxygenation, Blood Sugar, Heartrate, and Blood pressure, I could watch it for *hours*.
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Postby ++$_ » Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:25 am UTC

Belial wrote:yes

Plus, if I can get a readout of my BAC, Blood Oxygenation, Blood Sugar, Heartrate, and Blood pressure, I could watch it for *hours*.
There should also be a spot for "Number of consecutive minutes you have been staring at this."

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Postby Adalwolf » Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:48 am UTC

Belial wrote:
Adalwolf wrote:Pfft, lame.

Just get a real tattoo.


Don't fight the future, Adalwolf. Just get a rotating "Norse god of the day" tattoo to go with your advanced computer, your factory-made clothes, and your store-bought food, and accept it.


If I you are going to get a tattoo, get a real tattoo (which as it happens, I have been thinking about for a while). Those actually require skill and dedication to design and create, while this computer generated crap requires no talent.

Why would anyone want a clock, or medical checkouts on their arm (or wherever you put this thing)? Just go to the doctor and where a watch.

This thing is totally unnecessary and lame to boot.
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Postby Azrael001 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 2:54 am UTC

You can turn in your badge at the door, good bye.

That is to say that, while this may seem a little lame now, it's potential for awesomeness is huge, and if you can't see that than I don't know how we can help you.
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Postby Malice » Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:05 am UTC

Adalwolf wrote:If I you are going to get a tattoo, get a real tattoo (which as it happens, I have been thinking about for a while). Those actually require skill and dedication to design and create, while this computer generated crap requires no talent.


Yeah, sure, it takes a lot of skill and dedication to scar "I <3 Mom" into somebody's arm.

Why would anyone want a clock, or medical checkouts on their arm (or wherever you put this thing)? Just go to the doctor and where a watch.

This thing is totally unnecessary and lame to boot.


A clock is a bit silly, I think. But medical readouts? That could really be a lot of help--imagine diabetic patients with a constant knowledge of their blood-sugar levels, etc... The machine could even automatically trigger emergency services if it detects signs of a heart attack or something.

One thing I'm curious about logistically is how long the implant would last. I'd hate to have to replace it often.
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Postby Belial » Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:07 am UTC

If I you are going to get a tattoo, get a real tattoo (which as it happens, I have been thinking about for a while). Those actually require skill and dedication to design and create, while this computer generated crap requires no talent.

Why would anyone want a clock, or medical checkouts on their arm (or wherever you put this thing)? Just go to the doctor and where a watch.

This thing is totally unnecessary and lame to boot.


It requires someone else's skill and dedication. So I don't see how that even factors in. And if they fuck it up, you're screwed. And you can't turn it off when you need people not to see it. Or change it to suit your mood.

Besides, someone skilled and dedicated and intelligent needed to research and develop this technology, too, what's your point?

And while the watch is unnecessary (but why not have it on there if you're already going to the trouble)...."go to a doctor"? Seriously? Every time I want to know my blood sugar, or my heartrate?

The point of technology is that it makes things easier and more convenient. You seem to be missing it.
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Postby Adalwolf » Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:30 am UTC

Malice wrote:
Adalwolf wrote:If I you are going to get a tattoo, get a real tattoo (which as it happens, I have been thinking about for a while). Those actually require skill and dedication to design and create, while this computer generated crap requires no talent.


Yeah, sure, it takes a lot of skill and dedication to scar "I <3 Mom" into somebody's arm.

Why would anyone want a clock, or medical checkouts on their arm (or wherever you put this thing)? Just go to the doctor and where a watch.

This thing is totally unnecessary and lame to boot.


A clock is a bit silly, I think. But medical readouts? That could really be a lot of help--imagine diabetic patients with a constant knowledge of their blood-sugar levels, etc... The machine could even automatically trigger emergency services if it detects signs of a heart attack or something.

One thing I'm curious about logistically is how long the implant would last. I'd hate to have to replace it often.


If you don't think tattoos don't take skill, go down to the nearest tattoo parlor and watch the professionals do it.

Diabetics already have devices to check their blood, and practically everyone in the western world has a cell phone to call for emergency services.

@Azrael: I see nothing awesome about this. I don't think mixing humans and machines as awesome. I see it as stupid, and taking humanity and jumping off a cliff.

But, why do you think they are awesome?

@Belial: That's why you go to a good tattoo artist, geeze. And you can get them removed, fyi. Tattoos aren't supposed to change. They are supposed to represent something constant.

Yes, it took some intelligence to research this, but why? Shouldn't they work on something else, like maybe a cure for aids?

Why do you want to know your blood sugar and heart rate? If you really want to know your heart rate, put your fingers on the side of your neck and count for 60 seconds. Its not that difficult. For blood sugar, if you really want to know, you could get one of the things diabetics use. But if you aren't diabetic, you shouldn't worry about it.
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Postby Azrael001 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:39 am UTC

With the ability to power machines with our own blood we can create pacemakers that never run out of batteries. If we can power a small computer, we might soon be able to power mechanical eyes, giving sight to the blind etc.

Is developing better prosthetics "jumping off of a cliff"? You can't say it wouldn't be cool to have a built in HUD, with controls on your arm, it could display whatever you like. Have a hook up with GPS and you can get a "nav point" marking where you need to go. Or you could have subtitles for life, translating other languages, or "hearing" things that you don't. This could provide "hearing" for the deaf. Of course, it's no AIDS, so we should just ignore it's potential.
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Postby Adalwolf » Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:55 am UTC

Azrael001 wrote:With the ability to power machines with our own blood we can create pacemakers that never run out of batteries. If we can power a small computer, we might soon be able to power mechanical eyes, giving sight to the blind etc.

Is developing better prosthetics "jumping off of a cliff"? You can't say it wouldn't be cool to have a built in HUD, with controls on your arm, it could display whatever you like. Have a hook up with GPS and you can get a "nav point" marking where you need to go. Or you could have subtitles for life, translating other languages, or "hearing" things that you don't. This could provide "hearing" for the deaf. Of course, it's no AIDS, so we should just ignore it's potential.


I'm not even in favor of organ transplants, do you expect me to favor robotic eyes, and other fake crap?

I don't even know what and HUD is, but it sounds like some type of tv(hd tv)? I don't use GPS-never want to, and never will, and I don't want subtitles. If I want to learn another language, I will. So, I can, and will, say all that is not cool.

In fact, it is wrong because it starts making people dependent on machines (even more so than we are today...)
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Postby Azrael001 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:07 am UTC

HUD stands for Heads Up Display. It would allow you to see any "vital" information that you might want without having to look down, much like those in first person video games, or projected onto windows of cars and planes.

I don't see how you could be against them, but if that is the case then nothing I say will convince you other wise. Though I think that there is quite a bit of irony in the fact that the only way that we are able to communicate it though the internet, a technology that we have become quite dependent on. Also, machines are often more reliable than organic parts, why is bad that we are dependent on them? Would you rather get eaten by some faster stronger animal?
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Postby Adalwolf » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:18 am UTC

Azrael001 wrote:HUD stands for Heads Up Display. It would allow you to see any "vital" information that you might want without having to look down, much like those in first person video games, or projected onto windows of cars and planes.

I don't see how you could be against them, but if that is the case then nothing I say will convince you other wise. Though I think that there is quite a bit of irony in the fact that the only way that we are able to communicate it though the internet, a technology that we have become quite dependent on. Also, machines are often more reliable than organic parts, why is bad that we are dependent on them? Would you rather get eaten by some faster stronger animal?


As machines are today, they are separate from people. I think there is too much technology, but at present it is tolerable. I am 1000% against mixing of the two.

I'd be fine if the internet broke and all the kings men couldn't put it back together.

Why is it bad? Because dependence is WEAKNESS.

And no, I have no fear of being eaten by animals. As I'd defend myself, with a spear, a knife, etc. Plus, I'd most likely be around dangerous animals with other people who also had weapons. So, nope, I'm not worried.


Edit: I drive fine without a HUD. Also, I have seen, nor heard of HUD in cars. I wouldn't drive a car with one. When I look out the window, I want to see the landscape, so I look for cars, animals, and pedistrians, etc. I do not want displays in the way.
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Postby 4=5 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:24 am UTC

but don't you depend on food and water?

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Postby Azrael001 » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:29 am UTC

You are going to depend on knives and spears? Isn't that weakness? True weakness comes from being unable to recognize strength. If everyone was like you, we'd still be in caves. I'm sure you enjoy your air conditioning in the summer and heat in the winter. This doesn't make you weak. Humans are the dominant species because of our reliance on technology, without it we are only sub par scavengers who make funny noises to one another.
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Postby Adalwolf » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:32 am UTC

4=5 wrote:but don't you depend on food and water?


As that is how life evolved, there is no problem with that.

@Azrael:

we survived just fine with spears. we didn't create the next mass extinction with knives and spears. It takes skill, strength and courage to use knives and spears.

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Postby lorenith » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:43 am UTC

Well good you don't like it you've made that known.

I personally think it's creepy, but would be really helpful for diabetics as a more effective way to monitor their blood sugar levels. Using the lancets can be a hassle (and painful) at times, and it's not always that easy to get a good reading from what I've gathered from some diabetics. Also sometimes a drop or increase can be sudden and incapacitate them fairly easily. This happened to my fourth grade teacher.

Or do you think all diabetics should die for relying on something thats more portable and can pick up any blood problems immediately when they pass out and no one is there to help them?

They could probably be an easy way to be able to track people too, if they get kidnapped but most would probably get paranoid about "big brother" in that case!

I don't see how getting a digital tattoo is any less skillful then having someone scar it into ones body. Someone still had to make the art, even if it's appearing digitally instead of being put there. Good digital art is no easier than good traditional art, I've done both and they both have their pros and cons.

No one said these things were needed, just that they were neat and could have some very useful applications. If you think you're superior for not needing any form of interesting things or ways to help monitor people, then put your money where your mouth is and go live out in the forest using only the spears and such that you need to survive.

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Postby Adalwolf » Sat Mar 01, 2008 4:54 am UTC

lorenith wrote:Well good you don't like it you've made that known.

I personally think it's creepy, but would be really helpful for diabetics as a more effective way to monitor their blood sugar levels. Using the lancets can be a hassle (and painful) at times, and it's not always that easy to get a good reading from what I've gathered from some diabetics. Also sometimes a drop or increase can be sudden and incapacitate them fairly easily. This happened to my fourth grade teacher.

Or do you think all diabetics should die for relying on something thats more portable and can pick up any blood problems immediately when they pass out and no one is there to help them?

They could probably be an easy way to be able to track people too, if they get kidnapped but most would probably get paranoid about "big brother" in that case!

I don't see how getting a digital tattoo is any less skillful then having someone scar it into ones body. Someone still had to make the art, even if it's appearing digitally instead of being put there. Good digital art is no easier than good traditional art, I've done both and they both have their pros and cons.

No one said these things were needed, just that they were neat and could have some very useful applications. If you think you're superior for not needing any form of interesting things or ways to help monitor people, then put your money where your mouth is and go live out in the forest using only the spears and such that you need to survive.


I really don't think about people with diseases or handicaps. Whatever happens to them, happens to them, as it was their fate.

I don't want to be tracked, so I don't use GPS. I also like to navigate through landmarks, and I don't know, using my brain rather than looking at a machine to tell me a bunch of numbers.

I'd love to go and live out in the wild. Though I can't really do that because I'd be trespassing, or illegally hunting, or some other thing. Though there are places I could probably go out and never be found. I'd rather not live all by myself, however. As I do enjoy people's company.
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Re: Vampiritic electronic tattoos (not spam)

Postby Belial » Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:01 am UTC

Adalwolf wrote:I don't want to be tracked, so I don't use GPS.


That's why I don't watch TV. Because I don't want people to watch me. And I don't listen to the radio so people don't hear my conversations.

or, SPECIAL ALTERNATE JOKE:

[morbo]GPS DOES NOT WORK THAT WAY[/morbo]

But, you know, whatever. If you don't want to have the crazy fleshscreen, you don't have to. All the cool kids will just text message each others' arms with secret messages and you won't get to play.

Though there are places I could probably go out and never be found. I'd rather not live all by myself, however. As I do enjoy people's company.


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Postby TheTankengine » Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:03 am UTC

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Postby Belial » Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:03 am UTC

Until it stops being amusing.
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