Quixotess wrote:Marwan Barghouti's charges against the state of Israel might also be worthwhile reading.
A similar list of equally damning charges can be, and have been, brought against various factions of the PLO.
segmentation fault wrote:THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO GO ABOUT THINGS.
We've been over this. What is the 'right' way? Disarmament? Giving more land to the Palestinians? You act as though none of this has been tried before, and failed, to the death of Israelis.
segmentation fault wrote:in addition, you really think palestine is the bully and not the country that receives billions of dollars in foreign aid as well as military equipment?
Palestinians receive, per capita, more humanitarian funding from around the world then any other people on the planet. When you describe Israel's foreign aid, you are referring to the ~3 billion USD it receives for military endeavor. You neglect to mention that the Palestinians are firing modern weapons at the Israeli's, modern weapons that are foreign supplied.
segmentation fault wrote:srael can probably kick the ass of any other middle eastern nation
Israel's war history is not devoid of it's own soldiers dying. Your claim is like saying the US kicked Germany's ass on D-day; keeping Israel alive has come at a heavy cost of soldiers lives.
segmentation fault wrote:i find it fitting that you equate the situation to childish schoolyard bullying. maybe someone should act like the grown up.
I absolutely agree! It's just that everytime a 'grown up' has stepped in, nothings come of it.
segmentation fault wrote:however if you keep bombing them, the palestinians will turn towards hamas at a pretty sharp rate, which if you hadnt noticed is whats happening.
I haven't seen anything about improved or fallen approval rating for Hamas. Can you link to any evidence of this?
It's easy to condemn war, it's a bit harder to be clear and concise in what exactly you are condemning. Just as you said,
segmentation fault wrote:being against the actions of israel, who does not reflect the views of all jewish people, is not anti-semitism. similarly, the views of hamas are not the views of all palestinians
It should be pointed out that Israeli government is composed of a number of parliamentary branches, a number of which, are vehemently anti-war. The PLO is also composed of a number of branches, however, Hamas is pretty explicit in it's intent. The actions of the IDF != mind set of all Israeli's, let alone, all Jews. The actions of Hamas != mind set of all Palestinians, let alone all Arabs.