apeman5291 wrote:I doubt that Hamas will be able to say "Look, you're thriving under our rule, kill the evil Zionists!" while at the same time receiving aid publicly from them.
Why not? They *are* the ones who will be twisting the facts to fit their needs, and not only that, they'll have results to show for it. Heck, upto now, they've not only been getting aid, but they've been *stealing* considerable chunks of it, and even that hasn't done much to turn anyone against them...
I concur. As long as Hamas remains even slightly less utterly fucking corrupt than Fatah, they will be seen as the more righteous and beneficial party for Palestinians. Their incorruptibility, which derives
from their religious fanaticism, is precisely the problem here. The whole problem is that, in Palestinian society, getting to nice to Israel is considered corruption just like stealing tax dollars. Such people are described as sucking at the Zionist teat instead of fighting for True Palestinian Freedom (ie: "kul filistina", the whole land of Israel+Palestine).
I think that Dream's solution can work in the West Bank, but not in the Gaza Strip. Gaza is controlled by fanatical tyrants who have enough of a grip that they can freely ignore the will of the people. If it were otherwise they would never have provoked this war with Israel, would have held to the cease-fire agreement by not firing rockets, and would have received the reward of Israel lifting the blockade on Gaza, dramatically improving the lives of the common people there.
So here's my proposal for peace...
Hamas is annihilated. Any Palestinian who can show no allegiance to Hamas is allowed to move to the West Bank, from which Israel withdraws. A Palestinian state is declared that includes the entire West Bank beyond the security wall/fence and the region of Northeastern Israel referred to as the Arab Triangle (because it contains most of the Israeli Arab population). The border is patrolled by an international force containing neither Israeli nor Palestinian troops. In exchange for giving the Arab triangle to the Palestinians, Israel keeps Jerusalem undivided (this is more a practical matter than an ideological one; as splitting the city just lets either side's extremists shoot each other back and forth over the border*). This deal, particularly the transfer of the Arab Triangle to Palestine, works out mutually beneficial because the Palestinians get a sizable state, and Israel no longer needs to worry about becoming demographically overwhelmed with Arabs (which is mostly a paranoid fantasy anyway, but hey). If Palestine negotiates well, they could also receive a segment of Israel's eastern deserts, which thorough science can turn into valuable farmland.
Access to religious sites by anyone of any nationality would be allowed provided normal arrangements for a visitation visa were made, in both states
. Any terror attack by anyone in a holy place would result in that holy site closing to everyone
for a negotiated length of time -- this would deter terrorism at holy sites. Israel would give Palestine monetary aid, a negotiated sum for each Palestinian repatriated (not just from Gaza but from Europe or America, similar to Israel's Law of Return) within a negotiated period, provided that internationally-observed and Israeli-audited reports show the aid is used for building schools, hospitals, and other useful infrastructure. Any terror attack by a Palestinian will result in loss of aid for a number of Palestinians equal to the number of Israelis hurt or killed in the attack. The Israeli audits will also provide valuable information for the common Palestinian people on how clean or corrupt their leaders are, enabling them to clean up their politics.
Arabs and Jews who end up on the "wrong" side of the border can choose to move to their own state or to maintain their residence, provided that they follow the laws of the state they live in. This means that Israeli settlers could stay in "Palestine", though Israel would not protect them nor defend their interests. If the Palestinian state decided to strip these settlers of their personal property and evict them from their homes, the settlers' only recourse would be to move to Israel proper. Only killing such Jews could justly warrant an Israeli response, as such people chose
to live on their holy land in a Palestinian state rather than in a slightly different part of their holy land in a Jewish state.
After the negotiated period of aid from Israel to Palestine ends, the two countries sign a trade agreement. A negotiated time after this, the two sides can use their own men to patrol their borders and the international army can be phased back to international observers, who will eventually be phased out altogether.
Any officially-sanctioned military aggression by either side, not including defense against terror attacks, will result in immediate termination of that party's rights under the peace deal while maintaining their obligations. Precisely what measures a state can take to defend itself against terror attacks under the peace treaties will be negotiated, and must take into account that while ideally the Palestinian state would handle prosecution of terrorists, they cannot be expected to immediately wipe out the terrorist groups, who will no doubt object to being obsoleted by a Palestinian state when it actually happens.
* -- The neighborhoods of West Jerusalem bordering East Jerusalem were slums before the Six-Day War, because Arab soldiers would shoot at the residents as they went about their lives. Hence, splitting any city built on a series of hills is a bad idea. Jerusalem isn't all that great anyway.
Questions? Comments? Counterproposals? Flames go to /dev/null, so speak reasonably.
EDIT: Oh, and both countries have to put "Germany Clauses" in their constitutions or basic laws stating that no "Death to X!" parties can run for political office in country Y.
"With kindness comes naïveté. Courage becomes foolhardiness. And dedication has no reward. If you can't accept any of that, you are not fit to be a graduate student."