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Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby Jack Saladin » Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:09 am UTC

For most inmates crammed into Thailand's notoriously brutal jails, the prospect of fame, fortune and early freedom is an impossible dream.

For the convicted drug dealers, thieves and murderers who have taken up boxing at Bangkok's Thonburi Prison, however, that dream could become a reality if they have what it takes to be a champion.

Thailand's prison bosses believe they may have a future Olympic gold medalist in their midst and are giving talented boxers from jails all over the country the chance to fight for their freedom.


http://www.stuff.co.nz/4822487a12.html

Umm, this is the most awesome thing ever. How has there not been a movie with this premise already? Hell, there probably has. I hope somebody is filming all of these prison tournaments and editing them into the greatest reality TV show of all time.

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Re: Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby Gelsamel » Sun Jan 18, 2009 3:41 am UTC

Holy shit that is awesome, wait, prisons have the ability to just grant freedom like that?

They kinda did that in the Hunter Exam on Hunter X Hunter :P.
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Re: Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby mazzilliu » Sun Jan 18, 2009 6:38 am UTC

It would make for a great reality show. I'm sure a lot of prisoners are willing to do a lot of hilarious and humiliating things for their freedom that we can gawk at.
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Re: Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby LeopoldBloom » Sun Jan 18, 2009 7:58 am UTC

Sure its funny and kind of awesome, but doesn't it kinda trample on human rights and the entire point of the justice system? Letting a murderer out just to get a gold medal as he(or she) is good at boxing is pretty unethical.
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Re: Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby Pa-Patch » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:15 am UTC

LeopoldBloom wrote:Sure its funny and kind of awesome, but doesn't it kinda trample on human rights and the entire point of the justice system? Letting a murderer out just to get a gold medal as he(or she) is good at boxing is pretty unethical.


But also pretty awesome.

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Re: Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby Gelsamel » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:17 am UTC

Pretty sure the Rule of Awesome outweighs any other concern here.
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Re: Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby Nukewaste » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:47 am UTC

So, basically, they're finding the most hardcore, brutal, killing machine out of the whole bunch of unspeakable unfriendly people, and... letting him out. The more unimaginably vile the person is, the better their chances at walking amongst us.

?!

I'd be more comfortable if they let the guy who curled up in the corner and wet himself go free, but that's just me.

As for the Olympic hopeful, it's hard to find eligibility rules, but this:
http://www.la84foundation.org/OlympicInformationCenter/OlympicReview/1962/BDCE80/BDCE80m.pdf

doesn't say anything about rejecting criminals.

"Those whose occupation (studies or employment) has been interrupted for special training in a camp for over three weeks."

Does showing up for muster, and making license plates count as employment?
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Re: Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby Gelsamel » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:04 am UTC

Because being vile/brutal/a killer/whatever relates to boxing prowess... how?

Think about this the other way, setting free the guy with self-esteem issues probably won't be able to face up to society and live normally, and may in fact be the reason he killed/did-stuff-illegal in the first place (self-esteem issues). However someone who rose in a sport he likes and participated in the Olympics to represent his country is much more likely to be recuperated and be able to live with confidence, he'll be able to get a job (if not become a professional boxer) and be a benefit to society.

Even if that wasn't true...Rule of Awesome, I did mention that before right?
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Re: Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby Nukewaste » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:11 am UTC

Gelsamel wrote:Because being vile/brutal/a killer/whatever relates to boxing prowess... how?


When you think of all the good boxers you know, what comes to mind? Big guys that can take and give a lot of punishment. Yes, there's more to being a boxer than purely being a tank, but still...

Making generalizations, but chances are, the best boxer out of this bunch is the guy most adept at destroying puny humans the easiest.

So yeah, awesome, but still...

I wouldn't want this show coming to a prison near me.
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Re: Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby Gelsamel » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:22 am UTC

Nukewaste wrote:
Gelsamel wrote:Because being vile/brutal/a killer/whatever relates to boxing prowess... how?


When you think of all the good boxers you know, what comes to mind? Big guys that can take and give a lot of punishment. Yes, there's more to being a boxer than purely being a tank, but still...

Making generalizations, but chances are, the best boxer out of this bunch is the guy most adept at destroying puny humans the easiest.

So yeah, awesome, but still...

I wouldn't want this show coming to a prison near me.


Yeah but people who are buff aren't necessarily murderers. Pissants can murder with guns/knifes/weapons pretty easy... if this was solely murder by brute force of their fists then -maybe- you -might- be able to validly make that point. But I believe boxing has as little to do with brute force as aikijutsu does, it's more likely about the skill. Plus, there are weight divisions.
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Re: Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby Nukewaste » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:55 am UTC

I'm not calling strong people murderers. I'm not even necessarily even talking about murderers, at all.

I'm talking about a prison population.

I don't care why they're in there. But they're finding the one best at clubbing people into comas, by trial and error, or trial by fire, as it were, and letting him go free.

If it turns out he was an accountant, and was put away for fraud, okay, maybe not as worrying as a serial killer, but the point is, this man is going to be the best fighter out of the entire prison system.

And if you've seen shows or pictures of some of the monsters in prison, that's a scary concept. All these guys do all day is work out. Even small guys going in come out huge.

And they're finding the best fighter, regardless of crime, or temperment, or anything, and springing him.

That's what I have reservations about. If he was wrongfully accused of stealing baby kittens, don't care. He's still the guy that broke all the other killers and rapists.
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Re: Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby Jack Saladin » Sun Jan 18, 2009 9:57 am UTC

... What sort of sick fuck steals baby kittens? That would be the worst guy of all!

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Re: Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby Zak » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:02 am UTC

His wrestling name would be "The Kitten Masher" and he would wear a mask made out of the rapists he's killed.
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Re: Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby Nukewaste » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:03 am UTC

He was wrongfully accused. Bum rap. Judge had it in for him. Lawyer jacked him.
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Re: Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby Gelsamel » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:13 am UTC

So anyway, I think a "Go to the Olympics" rehab program would be heaps heaps beneficial you wouldn't even have to release them, but just improve their chances of parole if they're making an active effort to do something with their life.
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Re: Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby Hawknc » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:41 am UTC

Gelsamel wrote:So anyway, I think a "Go to the Olympics" rehab program would be heaps heaps beneficial you wouldn't even have to release them, but just improve their chances of parole if they're making an active effort to do something with their life.

...Uh, yeah, if they go to the Olympics in a foreign country, they're not coming back. Just sayin'. Remember the athletes who disappeared after the '06 Commonwealth Games here?

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Re: Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby Gelsamel » Sun Jan 18, 2009 10:47 am UTC

Hawknc wrote:
Gelsamel wrote:So anyway, I think a "Go to the Olympics" rehab program would be heaps heaps beneficial you wouldn't even have to release them, but just improve their chances of parole if they're making an active effort to do something with their life.

...Uh, yeah, if they go to the Olympics in a foreign country, they're not coming back. Just sayin'. Remember the athletes who disappeared after the '06 Commonwealth Games here?


Yeah, well I imagine they won't just let him roam around the Olympic village. And obviously if they still have serious problems... yeah it would be doubtful. In fact I doubt they'd let anyone with obvious serious problems even do the training.
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Re: Hardened criminals in Battle Royale for freedom

Postby LeopoldBloom » Sun Jan 18, 2009 11:20 am UTC

Z.A.K wrote:His wrestling name would be "The Kitten Masher" and he would wear a mask made out of the rapists he's killed.


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