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Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby The Reaper » Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:16 pm UTC

http://www.physorg.com/news159803609.html

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(AP) -- Mexican authorities said 60 people may have died from a swine flu virus in Mexico, and world health officials worry it could unleash a global flu epidemic. Mexico City closed schools across the metropolis Friday in hopes of containing the outbreak that has sickened more than 900.

Scientists were trying to determine if the deaths involved the same new strain of swine flu that sickened seven people in Texas and California - a disturbing virus that combines genetic material from pigs, birds and humans in a way researchers have not seen before.

The World Health Organization was looking closely at the 60 deaths - most of them in or near Mexico's capital. It wasn't yet clear what flu they died from, but spokesman Thomas Abraham said "We are very, very concerned."

"We have what appears to be a novel virus and it has spread from human to human," he said. "It's all hands on deck at the moment."

WHO raised its internal alert system Friday, preparing to divert more money and personnel to dealing with the outbreak.

President Felipe Calderon cancelled a trip and met with his Cabinet to coordinate Mexico's response. The government has 500,000 flu vaccines and planned to administer them to health workers, the highest risk group.

There are no vaccines available for the general public in Mexico, and authorities urged people to avoid hospitals unless they had a medical emergency, since hospitals are centers of infection.

They also said Mexicans should refrain from customary greetings such as shaking hands or kissing cheeks, and authorities at Mexico City's international airport were questioning passengers to try to prevent anybody with possible influenza from boarding airplanes and spreading the disease.

But the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Americans need not avoid traveling to Mexico, as long as they take the usual precautions, such as frequent handwashing.

Mexico's Health Secretary, Jose Cordova, said only 16 of the deaths have been confirmed as the new swine flu strain, and that government laboratories were testing samples from 44 other people who died. At least 943 nationwide were sick from the suspected flu, the health department said.

"We certainly have 60 deaths that we can't be sure are from the same virus, but it is probable," Cordova said, adding that samples were sent to the CDC to look for matches with the virus that infected seven people in Texas and California.

Cordova called it a "new, different strain ... that originally came from pigs."

Epidemiologists are particularly concerned because the only people killed so far were normally less-vulnerable young people and adults. It's possible that more vulnerable populations - infants and the aged - had been vaccinated against other strains, and that those vaccines may be providing some protection.

Dr. Anne Schuchat of the CDC said "at this point, we do not have any confirmations of swine influenza in Mexico" of the kind that sickened seven California and Texas residents. All seven recovered from symptoms that were like those of the regular flu, mostly involving fever, cough and sore throat, though some of the seven also experienced vomiting and diarrhea.

Scientists have long been concerned that a new flu virus could launch a pandemic, a worldwide spread of a killer disease. A new virus could evolve when different flu viruses infect a pig, a person or a bird, mingling their genetic material. The resulting hybrid could spread quickly because people would have no natural defenses against it.

The most notorious flu pandemic is thought to have killed at least 40 million people worldwide in 1918-19. Two other, less deadly flu pandemics struck in 1957 and 1968.

Nobody can predict when pandemics will happen. Scientists had been concerned about swine flu in 1976, for example, and some 40 million Americans were vaccinated. No flu pandemic ever appeared, but thousands of vaccinated people filed claims saying they'd suffered a paralyzing condition andother side effects from the shots.

In recent years, scientists have been particularly concerned about birds. There have been deaths from bird flu, mostly in Asia, but the virus has so far been unable to spread from person to person easily enough to touch off a pandemic.

Closing the schools across the metropolis of 20 million kept 6.1 million students home from day care centers through high schools, and thousands more were affected as colleges and universities closed down. Parents scrambled to juggle work and family concerns due to what local media said was the first citywide schools closure since Mexico City's devastating 1985 earthquake.

Authorities also advised capital residents not to go to work if they felt ill, and to wear surgical masks if they had to move through crowds. A wider shutdown - perhaps including shutting down government offices - was being considered.

"It is very likely that classes will be suspended for several days," Cordova said. "We will have to evaluate, and let's hope this doesn't happen, the need to restrict activity at workplaces."

Mexico's initial response in its overcrowded capital brought to mind other major outbreaks - such as when SARS hit Asia. At its peak in 2003, Beijing was the hardest-hit city in the world. Schools, cinemas and restaurants were shuttered to prevent the spread the deadly respiratory virus, and thousands of people were quarantined at home.

In March 2008, Hong Kong ordered more than a half million young students to stay home for two weeks because of a flu outbreak. It was the first such closure in Hong Kong since the outbreak of SARS, or severe acute respiratory syndrome.

Lillian Molina and other teachers at the Montessori's World preschool scrubbed down their empty classrooms with Clorox, soap and Lysol on Friday between fielding calls from worried parents. While the school has had no known cases among its students, Molina supported the government's decision to shutter classes, especially in preschools.

"It's great they are taking precautions," she said. "I think it's a really good idea."

Still, U.S. health officials said it's not yet a reason for alarm in the United States. The five in California and two in Texas have all recovered, and testing indicates some common antiviral medications seem to work against the virus.

Schuchat of the CDC said officials believe the new strain can spread human-to-human, which is unusual for a swine flu virus. The CDC is checking people who have been in contact with the seven confirmed U.S. cases, who all became ill between late March and mid-April.

The U.S. cases are a growing medical mystery because it's unclear how they caught the virus. The CDC said none of the seven people were in contact with pigs, which is how people usually catch swine flu. And only a few were in contact with each other.

CDC officials described the virus as having a unique combination of gene segments not seen in people or pigs before. The bug contains human virus, avian virus from North America and pig viruses from North America, Europe and Asia.

Health officials have seen mixes of bird, pig and human virus before, but never such an intercontinental combination with more than one pig virus in the mix.

Scientists keep a close eye on flu viruses that emerge from pigs. The animals are considered particularly susceptible to both avian and human viruses and a likely place where the kind of genetic reassortment can take place that might lead to a new form of pandemic flu, said Dr. John Treanor, an infectious disease specialist at the University of Rochester Medical Center.

The virus may be something completely new, or it may have been around for a while but was only detected now because of improved lab testing and disease surveillance, CDC officials said.

The virus was first detected in two children in southern California - a 10-year-old boy in San Diego County and a 9-year-old girl in neighboring Imperial County.

It's not known if the seasonal flu vaccine Americans got this winter protects against this type of virus. People should wash their hands and take other precautions, CDC officials said.

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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby psyck0 » Fri Apr 24, 2009 7:22 pm UTC

Cue overblown terror.

Maybe it'll distract people from the economy enough that they go start buying stuff already and make it recover. Seriously, guys, this is ACTUALLY a case where if we all just believe that it's fine, it WILL be fine!

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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby Garm » Fri Apr 24, 2009 8:01 pm UTC

Back to slamming the vitamin D.

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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby gmalivuk » Fri Apr 24, 2009 9:42 pm UTC

Garm wrote:Back to slamming the vitamin D.

If you're already getting enough, getting more won't help. Vitamins are notoriously *not* things where "some is good, so more is better". What with the whole fact of them being poisonous in high doses...
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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby Garm » Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:27 am UTC

gmalivuk wrote:
Garm wrote:Back to slamming the vitamin D.

If you're already getting enough, getting more won't help. Vitamins are notoriously *not* things where "some is good, so more is better". What with the whole fact of them being poisonous in high doses...



Well right. It's been cloudy in Colorado so I've been taking some to supplement my sunless existence. Now that outdoor soccer has started I can stop taking the stuff. Too much Vitamin D will melt your liver. Yum!
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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby gmalivuk » Sat Apr 25, 2009 4:53 am UTC

Pretty sure too much of any fat-soluble vitamin can fuck your liver, while it's your kidneys you'd have to hate to ingest too much of the water-soluble ones.

This is, of course, in addition to all the other symptoms of hyper-vitaminosis, which vary with the vitamin.
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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby The Reaper » Sat Apr 25, 2009 6:26 am UTC

You didn't need those silly organs anyway. All hail our new viral overlords.

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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby Xeio » Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:44 am UTC

I dunno, has madagascar closed all their borders yet? If not, we might be ok.
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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby Vieto » Sun Apr 26, 2009 1:56 am UTC

Ah, Pandemic II, good times.

The game didn't take into account illegal border crossings, though.

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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby Chad.Boudreau » Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:25 am UTC

I just had to share this, from a wikipedia section on future pandemics.
The plague bacterium could easily develop drug-resistance and become a major health threat.[44] Plague epidemics have occurred throughout human history, causing over 200 million deaths worldwide. The ability to resist many of the antibiotics used against plague has been found so far in only a single case of the disease in Madagascar.[45]


just...just not my Madagascar =(
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Postby Xeio » Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:56 am UTC

Chad.Boudreau wrote:I just had to share this, from a wikipedia section on future pandemics.
The plague bacterium could easily develop drug-resistance and become a major health threat.[44] Plague epidemics have occurred throughout human history, causing over 200 million deaths worldwide. The ability to resist many of the antibiotics used against plague has been found so far in only a single case of the disease in Madagascar.[45]
just...just not my Madagascar =(
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I wonder how big of a threat this really is though (the plague, or some version of the flu). The media does like to over dramatize just about everything, but then... it is a valid threat... I dunno.

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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby Chad.Boudreau » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:56 am UTC

I don't know how seriously we should take any one threat. After a virus becomes a pandemic, and kills a huge swath of the population, we will look back on the virus and see how elegantly, how purposefully it morphed, recombined, and strove to become a virus that could kill many of us. When we squint back on this shining, god-affirming improbability that the killer virus will be, we shall forget the billions, perhaps the trillions of failed attempts at recombination and mutation.

This could be serious. Or it isn't. I have warring gut instincts on this particular case. On the one hand, there aren't that many people who are sick. I mean sure, 2-3 percent of those hospitalized are dying, but we're only talking about a few thousand, right? Also sure, we have a few cases cropping up around the US, but they are being dealt with swiftly, decisively.

On the other hand, we are talking about a middle-income country. Worse, we're talking about a middle income country. It is extraordinarily unlikely that a decent fraction of those with the virus are hospitalized (this is true even in a high income country, I suppose, but exacerbated by poverty.) Worse, there is going to be some kind of delay between being infected, showing symptoms, and going to the doctor. THEN it's going to be another few days before the tests say you have this bug. So er...yeah, the only reports which are probably current are the number of people hospitalized with pneumonia in mexico city (almost 900), and those who have died of that complication (around 60). One really comforting thing is it does not appear that people are dying from cytokine storms (when your immune system kills you, like with the 1918 pandemic).

But then again it's scary that young adults are being hit hardest by this little bug. Generally they don't have the money or will to take care of themselves. We are lucky, I think, that the suspected outbreak in NYC happened in a private school.


Anyways, it's 3:00AM, 80 miles away from me, a week or two ago, some kids came back from mexico perhaps carrying the biggest event of this decade, and in the typically human custom of hypochondria my throat itches, so I'm going to stop rambling on and on and go to bed. Perhaps in the morning I'll try to write something a bit more coherent, if our more knowledgeable members haven't beaten me to it.
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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby Chad.Boudreau » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:48 am UTC

I just thought I should add, as a separate post, that if this is really the one...pandemic 2009, and this news report is for real, then it is already everywhere

The 25 students and teachers at Auckland's Rangitoto College returned to New Zealand via Los Angeles on Saturday.

Fourteen of them have shown flu-like symptoms, with four "more unwell than others," said Dr. Julia Peters, clinical director of Auckland Regional Public Health Service.
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Postby Hawknc » Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:58 am UTC

Thankfully NZ can be very easily quarantined. (Just tell them Bondi beach is closed indefinitely.)

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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby Silas » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:43 am UTC

So, on a scale of wash-your-hands-when-you-come-inside to stock-up-on-canned-goods-and-ammunition...

More seriously, with modern readiness, is a deadly flu epidemic really a possibility? My understanding was always that the Spanish Flu was something that could have been stamped out methodically and efficiently, if it hadn't been for the war and and ill-informed doctors.
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Postby Delalyra » Sun Apr 26, 2009 10:51 am UTC

Here's the WHO's site on it. They're pretty concerned, but it's not an epidemic yet.

I'd still stock up on canned goods.
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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby Vieto » Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:13 pm UTC

Just wait until it buys the zombie upgrade. First, it will infect almost everyone, then, poof! Zombies!

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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby The Reaper » Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:12 pm UTC

Swine flu confirmed in NYC high school students
http://www.physorg.com/news159966680.html

Canada confirms 4 swine flu cases among students
http://www.physorg.com/news159972831.html

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Postby niko7865 » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:44 pm UTC

Wasn't 2009 the year of the flu pandemic in Children of Men?

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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby The Reaper » Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:57 pm UTC

We're safe. Madagascar is currently uninfected.

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Postby krilitor » Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:00 am UTC

If this bug is going to be a pandemic, at least we live in the day where we can get a play by play of it decimating the human population. :)

But in all seriousness, I doubt it will get too bad. I'll start worrying when they start burning the bodies and firebombing towns ala Outbreak.
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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby WalkerRiley » Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:44 am UTC

The earth attempting to purge itself of overpopulation? It really needs to pick its targets better.
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Postby Troy Martin » Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:48 am UTC

niko7865 wrote:Wasn't 2009 the year of the flu pandemic in Children of Men?

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Hmm, I just posted that link on the wikipedia talk page for the outbreak. Good find!

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Postby segmentation fault » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:58 am UTC

oh, by the way:

When House Appropriations Committee chairman David Obey, the Wisconsin Democrat who has long championed investment in pandemic preparation, included roughly $900 million for that purpose in this year's emergency stimulus bill, he was ridiculed by conservative operatives and congressional Republicans.


oh but lets all protest "tyrannical government spending"

Gov. Rick Perry Saturday asked the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for 37,430 courses of antiviral medications from the Strategic National Stockpile as a precaution after three cases of swine flu were confirmed in Texas.


wait, didnt you want to secede?
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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby Bobber » Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:34 pm UTC

So if I get this right, this is how it is:

CONFIRMED: Mexico, United States, Canada, Spain, New Zealand.

POSSIBLE: Columbia, Brazil, Israel, Australia, United Kingdom, France, Italy, Denmark.

I'll just stay as much at home as possible, wash my hands often, and oh how I wish that I were ballsy enough to wear my gas mask in public.
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Postby Troy Martin » Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:44 pm UTC

103 possible deaths in Mexico, 1800+ possible cases 'round the world, people are actually panicking, and (of course) xkcd is having fun with it.

OT: I know who writes/draws the comic, but does he/she actually post here? Is it the guy with the raptor/hat/tea avatar?
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Postby Delalyra » Mon Apr 27, 2009 2:45 pm UTC

The worst part is that the antivirals are most effective within a few days of symptoms, yet the symptoms are so indeterminate. Fever, chills, nausea, vomiting? Could be anything (especially if you only have a handful of symptoms, and they're not dramatic), and I bet most people, even if they're insured in the US, wait a while before they go to a doctor.

I'm running a low fever and am tired. Flu? Not Flu? Gahhh. Could be anything.
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Postby headprogrammingczar » Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:42 pm UTC

Troy Martin wrote:103 possible deaths in Mexico, 1800+ possible cases 'round the world, people are actually panicking, and (of course) xkcd is having fun with it.

OT: I know who writes/draws the comic, but does he/she actually post here? Is it the guy with the raptor/hat/tea avatar?

Randall is on the forum as xkcd (duh), and he hasn't posted here in YEARS. The last I remember seeing a post of his is the blue-eyes puzzle thread.
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Postby The Reaper » Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:15 pm UTC

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Gov. Rick Perry Saturday asked the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for 37,430 courses of antiviral medications from the Strategic National Stockpile as a precaution after three cases of swine flu were confirmed in Texas.
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I'm sure if we had we'd just take the antiviral meds from the CDC places in Texas. Since we haven't, we still go through the proper channels.

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Postby vslayer » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:15 pm UTC

at the risk of sounding like a retard due to my complete lack of knowledge when it comes to viruses, dont we still have enormous stockpiles of anti-virals from when the bird flu was going to kill and rape every living thing? it doesnt take much to issue a health warning and have everyone who develops flu symptoms check in to their local GP.

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Postby lorenith » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:21 pm UTC

The flu going around right now is not the same strain.

Of the 4 anti virals used, apparently 2 of them are ineffective against this strain of the flu, the inoculations that have been given out are completely ineffective against this strain of flu as well so people have no immunity to it.

Most of the articles on this particular virus talk about these things, as well as the fact that they are currently developing stuff to combat this strain, but it will still take quite a while.

But yeah, one of the reasons the flu is considered so dangerous is because it is super adaptive, and when viruses adapt that means that drugs made for them lose effectiveness or stop working entirely.

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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby rockin_rhodes » Mon Apr 27, 2009 8:55 pm UTC

I'm moving to El Paso, Texas for work for the next year and a half. I'll let you know if I survive. Any advice for dodging the swine flu?

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Postby Delalyra » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:11 pm UTC

vslayer wrote:at the risk of sounding like a retard due to my complete lack of knowledge when it comes to viruses, dont we still have enormous stockpiles of anti-virals from when the bird flu was going to kill and rape every living thing? it doesnt take much to issue a health warning and have everyone who develops flu symptoms check in to their local GP.

Yeah... using "retard" and "rape" like that is not cool.

In answer to your question, antivirals that may or may not be stockpiled from the birdflu scare would not work, or would only help on part of the swine flu. As I understand it, the swine flu has genetic material from both pigs, birds, and human flus, so maybe birdflu antivirals would be partly efficacious. Still, I doubt it, and since there are stockpiles of antivirals that work on this strain, why bother?

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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby SummerGlauFan » Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:37 pm UTC

So, thousands of cases world-wide, and barely 100 deaths?

SARS and bird flu were worse than this, and both of those were still panzies. On a scale of wash-your-hands to -stock-up-canned-goods-and-ammo, I'm saying: what, you don't wash your hands until the flu starts? Eeeewwwww...
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Postby Belial » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:13 pm UTC

Dear Congressional Republicans:

All that pandemic preparation funding that you insisted be removed from the federal spending bill sure would be handy right about now, wouldn't it?

One of the entities/groups in this fictional two-way correspondence I'm engaging in right here looks like a GIANT BAG OF COCKS right now, don't they?

I'll give you a hint. It's not me.

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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby Lumpy » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:25 pm UTC

Now, to be fair, they weren't calling it wasteful spending, they just thought it shouldn't be in an economic stimulus bill because they felt influenza vaccine research and production didn't directly stimulate the economy, not buying into the argument that it would be a preventative measure.

Exactly in the same way that they thought that military research and weapons didn't directly stimulate the economy, not buying into the argument that it would be a preventative measure.

Wait, those two situations are exactly the same, except in one case the programs involved were already many years and many billions of dollars overbudget; one set of programs had manufacturing in nearly every Congressional district to satisfy earmarkers, but not the other; and one of them is a whole lot cheaper.

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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby Mother Superior » Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:39 pm UTC

SummerGlauFan wrote:So, thousands of cases world-wide, and barely 100 deaths?

SARS and bird flu were worse than this, and both of those were still panzies. On a scale of wash-your-hands to -stock-up-canned-goods-and-ammo, I'm saying: what, you don't wash your hands until the flu starts? Eeeewwwww...

Bird flu had 421 cases over the course of six years and 257 deaths. This has 2300 cases so far. SARS had ca 8000 over seven months and had a mortality rate of 9,6%. Even if this has a mortality rate of 5% and the moment (I'm not doing proper math this time at night), it could get a lot worse than SARS cause at the moment it seems to spread like a motherfucker... Unless I'm stupid. Which is always possible.

^^This is all Wikipedia, btw.
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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby Wiglaf » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:33 pm UTC

Mother Superior wrote:
SummerGlauFan wrote:So, thousands of cases world-wide, and barely 100 deaths?

SARS and bird flu were worse than this, and both of those were still panzies. On a scale of wash-your-hands to -stock-up-canned-goods-and-ammo, I'm saying: what, you don't wash your hands until the flu starts? Eeeewwwww...

Bird flu had 421 cases over the course of six years and 257 deaths. This has 2300 cases so far. SARS had ca 8000 over seven months and had a mortality rate of 9,6%. Even if this has a mortality rate of 5% and the moment (I'm not doing proper math this time at night), it could get a lot worse than SARS cause at the moment it seems to spread like a motherfucker... Unless I'm stupid. Which is always possible.

^^This is all Wikipedia, btw.
From news sources, current death rates, in Mexico alone, are about 150. It appears to have started spreading about three weeks ago.

And its gonna get worse. Especially considering this. 6.0 on the Richter scale 200 miles south of Mexico City. Thankfully, little to know damage is reported, but it still forced everyone outside. And, um, isn't there still a drug war?

Also, if you don't believe Belial, you should. :cry:

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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby Jahoclave » Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:56 pm UTC

Belial wrote:Dear Congressional Republicans:

All that pandemic preparation funding that you insisted be removed from the federal spending bill sure would be handy right about now, wouldn't it?

One of the entities/groups in this fictional two-way correspondence I'm engaging in right here looks like a GIANT BAG OF COCKS right now, don't they?

I'll give you a hint. It's not me.

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Reply from the Congressional Republicans and Their Boss as translated by Jahoclave,

Go back to fucking pigs like usually because if you're a fan of gay marriage you obviously like to have sex with pigs. Besides, this is all Obama's fault because he shook that dude's hand in Mexico and then he died of natural causes that weren't swine flu.



It's really nice to know that even Swine Flu is a gay liberal communist plot.

I also love the description for the people in Kansas. They're willing to isolate themselves. Yes, we get that by the fact that they're living in the middle of fuck nowhere Kansas.


krilitor wrote:If this bug is going to be a pandemic, at least we live in the day where we can get a play by play of it decimating the human population. :)

But in all seriousness, I doubt it will get too bad. I'll start worrying when they start burning the bodies and firebombing towns ala Outbreak.

And on Fox you can see them blaming Obama and telling you how great the flu is. Personally, I think this is a plot to distract people from Hannity not getting waterboarded.

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Re: Possible Flu Pandemic in Mexico

Postby The Reaper » Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:04 am UTC

Jahoclave wrote:
Belial wrote:Dear Congressional Republicans:

All that pandemic preparation funding that you insisted be removed from the federal spending bill sure would be handy right about now, wouldn't it?

One of the entities/groups in this fictional two-way correspondence I'm engaging in right here looks like a GIANT BAG OF COCKS right now, don't they?

I'll give you a hint. It's not me.

Love, luck, and plague death,
Belial

Reply from the Congressional Republicans and Their Boss as translated by Jahoclave,

Go back to fucking pigs like usually because if you're a fan of gay marriage you obviously like to have sex with pigs. Besides, this is all Obama's fault because he shook that dude's hand in Mexico and then he died of natural causes that weren't swine flu.



It's really nice to know that even Swine Flu is a gay liberal communist plot.

I also love the description for the people in Kansas. They're willing to isolate themselves. Yes, we get that by the fact that they're living in the middle of fuck nowhere Kansas.


krilitor wrote:If this bug is going to be a pandemic, at least we live in the day where we can get a play by play of it decimating the human population. :)

But in all seriousness, I doubt it will get too bad. I'll start worrying when they start burning the bodies and firebombing towns ala Outbreak.

And on Fox you can see them blaming Obama and telling you how great the flu is. Personally, I think this is a plot to distract people from Hannity not getting waterboarded.

Man, this forum needs more liberals, there's not enough of them.
On a related note, whatever the hell republicans evolved into needs to be shot.

How bad is this flu in comparison to the normal flu season flu?


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