Heisenberg wrote:Actually, it's a common misconception that illegal immigrants don't pay taxes. Many of them do, and many are afraid to file a tax return and end up overpaying. Some are tax cheats, as are some citizens (i.e. Treasury Secretary), but "They didn't pay for it" is a weak argument at best.
It's against the law for them to be there. That's is a stupid argument...their entire presence is illegal. If a small minority decide to pay taxes good for them, they're atoning for flagrant breaching of the law I guess?
It's not a matter of 'They didn't pay for it' at all..if they want it they'd have to pay full price for it.
It's a matter of "Hey, WTF are you doing here?" - You've already got massive immigration issues, if you make their access to all these things unfettered then you're just making it easier and more desirable for them to go to your country.
Yes, but the illegal immigrants are buying it illegally. Therefore they are working against the healthcare reform bill. Illegal immigrants can buy private insurance too if they have the money. They can also turn up in hospitals. This won't be changing anything for them, they'll still be buying insurance illegally.
This is the key Wilson was yelling about...No, They were not buying it illegally because the bill never said they couldn't buy it.
NOW the bill says it's illegal because they added his amendment. Prior to that it didn't contain any requirement on citizenship.
So because it's illegal to walk into the country, it should be an additional crime to, after you've walked into the country, walk into the nearest Wal-Mart and buy a gallon of milk?
Wal-Mart for Milk would be fine. Government program who sells milk cheaper to underpriviledged citizens, yes that'd probably be a crime.
The difference being that in this case, I assume you're talking about the free government health insurance, not private insurance that they've paid for with their own money.
Exactly, so illegals could still buy private care, but couldn't opt in to a government subsidized plan.
So, if Canadians go to the US for health care, and pay for it, that would be wrong too? If that's the case, then you guys are setting a great example.
Not sure I follow you. She paid for health care, not government run health care insurance. Just buying the healthcare itself wouldn't involve the use of any government funds, buying gov't healthcare insurance would.