Arancaytar wrote:dedalus wrote:I meant more that there was evidence as to the existence of a god one way or another. We have none. A belief is only delusional when there's evidence to the contrary.
This guy named Russel has a teapot he wants to sell you. Belief in the absence of even circumstantial evidence is exactly as delusional as belief against contrary evidence.
I'm not saying you have to prove religion is false before you can get annoyed with them trying to force it on you. I'm also not saying that the existence of a god is fairly likely; I certainly don't think that. But as soon as you start calling them downright delusional, then you take the burden of proof.
SlyReaper wrote:I suppose you could say not all religious people are delusional, but that religion is itself a delusion. The ones that hold particular religious views without considering the possibility that they're wrong - those are delusional. The ones that hold particular religious views because they were raised in that particular culture and haven't given it much thought (or find it socially inconvenient to voice doubts), those people are not delusional.
What about the people who were raised in a particular culture, have decided that religion explains the world to them as well as everything else, interpret the bible to their own ends, and believe little of official doctrine bar 'there is a god. He is pretty cool.'?