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Postby addams » Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:20 pm UTC

Xenomortis wrote:
freezeblade wrote:You mean something like this?
History of the Soviet Union via Tetris

That is truly amazing.

Awesome....
Painless history.

That wasn't painless!
It was quick and merciful.

Russians were Famous, in my mind, for being Depressed.
I was told it was caused by those long cold dark winters.

Back and forth, between being Angry enough to Do Something about it and absolutely OverWhelmed and in despair.
The whole thing was punctuated by moments of Bliss. Like my posts are punctuated with unrelated Capital Letters.

The history in that Clip is more realistic than the history in my head.
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Postby Yablo » Fri Oct 03, 2014 7:25 pm UTC

LaserGuy wrote:Well, Tetris has no story and no characters, so it's a pretty blank slate as far as the script is concerned. Just ignore the part about trying to fit together blocks falling from the sky and you'll be fine.

So basically, ignore exactly everything that makes Tetris what it is. That's kinda like ignoring the zombies and guns in Resident Evil because they want the movie to be a romantic comedy, or ignoring the cars in Need For Speed and Gran Turismo because, damn it, those need to be westerns.

I'll try to reserve judgement until I know more because they just might amaze me, but I can't shake the feeling that I'm going to prefer looking over someone's shoulder while they play Tetris on an original Game Boy.
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Postby mousewiz » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:05 pm UTC

Yablo wrote:So basically, ignore exactly everything that makes Tetris what it is.

You need to be fair to the Type A music. It's not as important as the game play, but it's certainly some chunk of what makes Tetris, Tetris.

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Postby Coyne » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:25 pm UTC

speising wrote:http://youtu.be/AhwGEa7507g

i thought this was a joke.


Trailers usually show examples of the best parts of a movie...and...well...what can I say?
In all fairness...

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Postby CorruptUser » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:31 pm UTC

(Stealing from Robot Chicken)

This Summer...

These hippos...

Are hungry. FOR JUSTICE!

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Postby Angua » Fri Oct 03, 2014 8:58 pm UTC

Coyne wrote:
speising wrote:http://youtu.be/AhwGEa7507g

i thought this was a joke.


Trailers usually show examples of the best parts of a movie...and...well...what can I say?

I'm pretty sure that trailer was made as a parody before someone else decided to do it seriously :P
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Postby MartianInvader » Mon Oct 06, 2014 11:27 pm UTC

Yablo wrote: That's kinda like ignoring the zombies and guns in Resident Evil because they want the movie to be a romantic comedy, or ignoring the cars in Need For Speed and Gran Turismo because, damn it, those need to be westerns..

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Postby LaserGuy » Tue Oct 07, 2014 2:14 am UTC

Adult website Brazzers is apparently offering pilots on Air Canada free memberships. The airline has apparently been having some difficulties with pilots bringing NSFW materials onboard.

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Postby addams » Tue Oct 07, 2014 4:07 am UTC

I'm sorry LaserGuy;
Porn is usually funny.

For some reason, I'm not laughing.
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Postby PolakoVoador » Thu Oct 09, 2014 7:22 pm UTC

AAAAHH!
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Doctors pull three-inch insect from a man's ear in India

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Postby WilliamLehnsherr » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:04 am UTC

As it's being removed, I imagine it's thinking "argh, my babies. Don't take me away from my babies".

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Postby addams » Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:09 am UTC

PolakoVoador wrote:AAAAHH!
Warning, horrible horribleness in the link below.
Doctors pull three-inch insect from a man's ear in India

I think you may have inches and centimeters mixed up.

I think it is funny.
I like that kind of news.
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addams wrote:A house cricket coming to an ear near you.

Are your ears itchy?
Just, a little?..Wait.


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Postby PolakoVoador » Fri Oct 10, 2014 12:58 pm UTC

WilliamLehnsherr wrote:As it's being removed, I imagine it's thinking "argh, my babies. Don't take me away from my babies".

... Ok, you won this round. You made it even more horrible.

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Postby LaserGuy » Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:49 pm UTC

Telsa motors announces its new dual-motor 'D' line of cars. Apparently the new cars will include an "autopilot" feature that will allow the car to stay in its lane, stay with the flow of traffic, and perform emergency stops. Also, something about 0 to 60 in 3.2s, which is apparently pretty good.

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Postby addams » Fri Oct 10, 2014 5:58 pm UTC

LaserGuy wrote:Telsa motors announces its new dual-motor 'D' line of cars. Apparently the new cars will include an "autopilot" feature that will allow the car to stay in its lane, stay with the flow of traffic, and perform emergency stops. Also, something about 0 to 60 in 3.2s, which is apparently pretty good.

The Future will be Amazing!
The front and rear motors, Musk explained, will allow a form of all-wheel drive that is more dynamic and sophisticated than the mechanical systems found in conventional, single-engine all-wheel-drive cars. The result will be a more efficient powertrain that can transfer power seamlessly between the front and rear axles, giving the car not only better handling and acceleration but a greater range and higher top speed.

For the moment, I believe every word of it.
What will this mean for Low Speeds?
Heavy. Heavy is good when attempting to gain or regain Traction.

Seamless Power Transfer....?
And! A dash readout....!

Imagine; Not at High Speeds, but at low.
With the right suspension system, it will climb trees.
Or, Knock them down and go over the top.

For me, it's not how fast we go, but Where we are going.
One Hell of a View from on top of trees.

One day, five hundred miles from the nearest Main Road,
You can stop for lunch and charge the Rig from sunlight.
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Postby Diadem » Sun Oct 12, 2014 12:57 am UTC

LaserGuy wrote:Telsa motors announces its new dual-motor 'D' line of cars. Apparently the new cars will include an "autopilot" feature that will allow the car to stay in its lane, stay with the flow of traffic, and perform emergency stops. Also, something about 0 to 60 in 3.2s, which is apparently pretty good.

By 0 to 60 they mean 0 to 97. And nearly 100 km/h in 3.2 seconds is pretty impressive.

The autopilot is pretty nice. A sweet intermediate step towards fully autonomous cars. I'm still hoping my next car (in about 3 years) will be an autonomous one.
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Postby elasto » Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:01 pm UTC

Too absurd to be in the dark news thread:

MOBILE, Ala. (WPMI) A Mobile mother is not happy about a controversial Mobile County School contract her daughter signed without her consent. The contract promises that her daughter will not kill or injure herself and others.

Rebecca is angry.

"This isn't right. She's 5-years-old," said Rebecca.

Rebecca did not want Local 15 News to use her last name. She said E R Dickson school officials crossed the line when they had her daughter sign a Mobile County Public Safety Contract without her being present.

Rebecca said, "Most of these words on here, she's never heard in her life."

School officials told Rebecca they had to send Elizabeth home after an incident in class.

"They told me she drew something that resembled a gun," said Rebecca. "According to them she pointed a crayon at another student and said, 'pew pew,'' said Rebecca.

She said her child was given a questionnaire to evaluate her for suicidal thoughts.

"[They] Asked her if she was depressed now," said Rebecca.

Without her permission, Rebecca said her child was given the Mobile County Public School Safety Contract to sign stating she wouldn't kill herself or others.

"While I was in the lobby waiting they had my 5-year-old sign a contract about suicide and homicide," said Rebecca.

According to state law, minors cannot legally sign a contract.

"There should be a different way to handle this situation. If this is protocol it needs to be looked at again," said Rebecca.

Local 15 News contacted school officials to see what the proper protocol is when handling "violent-like" behavior. Local 15 News has not heard back.

"My child interrupted us and said, 'What is suicide mommy? Daddy what is suicide?" said Rebecca. "As a parent that's not right. I'm the one should be able to talk to my child and not have someone else mention words like this in front of her at all."

Rebecca is pushing to have the incident removed from her child's record. She said school officials have requested Elizabeth see a psychiatrist.

She believes that is unnecessary.


No wonder people think The Onion is real when actual news is just as absurd.

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Postby Xenomortis » Mon Oct 13, 2014 1:22 pm UTC

Diadem wrote:By 0 to 60 they mean 0 to 97. And nearly 100 km/h in 3.2 seconds is pretty impressive.

You continentals and your road measurements...
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Postby addams » Mon Oct 13, 2014 7:33 pm UTC

elasto wrote:Too absurd to be in the dark news thread:

MOBILE, Ala. (WPMI) A Mobile mother is not happy about a controversial Mobile County School contract her daughter signed without her consent. The contract promises that her daughter will not kill or injure herself and others.
Spoiler:
Rebecca is angry.

"This isn't right. She's 5-years-old," said Rebecca.

Rebecca did not want Local 15 News to use her last name. She said E R Dickson school officials crossed the line when they had her daughter sign a Mobile County Public Safety Contract without her being present.

Rebecca said, "Most of these words on here, she's never heard in her life."

School officials told Rebecca they had to send Elizabeth home after an incident in class.

"They told me she drew something that resembled a gun," said Rebecca. "According to them she pointed a crayon at another student and said, 'pew pew,'' said Rebecca.

She said her child was given a questionnaire to evaluate her for suicidal thoughts.

"[They] Asked her if she was depressed now," said Rebecca.

Without her permission, Rebecca said her child was given the Mobile County Public School Safety Contract to sign stating she wouldn't kill herself or others.

"While I was in the lobby waiting they had my 5-year-old sign a contract about suicide and homicide," said Rebecca.

According to state law, minors cannot legally sign a contract.

"There should be a different way to handle this situation. If this is protocol it needs to be looked at again," said Rebecca.

Local 15 News contacted school officials to see what the proper protocol is when handling "violent-like" behavior. Local 15 News has not heard back.

"My child interrupted us and said, 'What is suicide mommy? Daddy what is suicide?" said Rebecca. "As a parent that's not right. I'm the one should be able to talk to my child and not have someone else mention words like this in front of her at all."


Rebecca is pushing to have the incident removed from her child's record. She said school officials have requested Elizabeth see a psychiatrist.

She believes that is unnecessary.


No wonder people think The Onion is real when actual news is just as absurd.

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All of it is dark.
Children as young as five years old sometimes show signs of being truly anti-social and disturbing if not disturbed.

A teacher, a principle, the school nurse, all have a role in evaluation and referral.
In a more perfect world that might be true. Our's is not a perfect world.

An invatation to see a Psychologist or Psychiatrist should be welcome.
Of course, That's where this shit gets really dark.

I'd expect a civilized family in a civilized nation to have professional relationships.
The family doctor. A Psychologist or Psychiatrist that has known the child for years.

But; No.....
They want the child to see a Stranger.

To take a professional referral from people that would engage a child in a contract without the supervision of a guardian Would Be Nuts!

It must be Onion in disguise.
What is that? Garlic?
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Postby Diadem » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:38 pm UTC

elasto wrote:Too absurd to be in the dark news thread:

How I read that:

MOBILE, Ala. (WPMI) A Mobile mother is no- Wait, a what mother? A mobile mother? Or mother working for ExxonMobil? What's that got to do with anything? ... Oh, wait, they probably mean someone living in a mobile home. Huh, weird term, never heard it put like that. Ok carry on. is not happy about a controversial Mobile County School contract her dau- Wait? A mobile school? Wtf? That's ... eh... a school for people living in mobile homes? That can't be right. Brain, read that sentence again. From the start. MOBILE, Ala. (WPMI) ... ... ... ... WHO THE FUCK NAMES A TOWN MOBILE?
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Postby Mutex » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:43 pm UTC

Maybe because all the homes are on wheels? It's in Alabama...

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Postby PolakoVoador » Mon Oct 13, 2014 9:45 pm UTC

Sometimes, I really wish news like these are just fake Onion-like stuff.

First, as Diadem put perfectly: Mobile? Really?

Second: if 5 years old can't make "pew pew" sounds without triggering a minor crisis, something is horribly, horribly wrong.

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PolakoVoador wrote:Sometimes, I really wish news like these are just fake Onion-like stuff.

First, as Diadem put perfectly: Mobile? Really?

Second: if 5 years old can't make "pew pew" sounds without triggering a minor crisis, something is horribly, horribly wrong.

It's not pronounced the same. They stress the i.
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KrytenKoro wrote:
PolakoVoador wrote:Sometimes, I really wish news like these are just fake Onion-like stuff.

First, as Diadem put perfectly: Mobile? Really?

Second: if 5 years old can't make "pew pew" sounds without triggering a minor crisis, something is horribly, horribly wrong.

It's not pronounced the same. They stress the i.



That's how I pronounce mobile. Or at least how I pronounce "mobile phone". I rarely use the word in any other context. I don't think the phrase "mobile home" has ever come out of my mouth (except right after I typed; I wanted to spite myself).

PolakoVoador wrote:AAAAHH!
Warning, horrible horribleness in the link below.
Doctors pull three-inch insect from a man's ear in India


I think this beats that: http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life/br ... 15569.html

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WilliamLehnsherr wrote:
KrytenKoro wrote:
PolakoVoador wrote:Sometimes, I really wish news like these are just fake Onion-like stuff.

First, as Diadem put perfectly: Mobile? Really?

Second: if 5 years old can't make "pew pew" sounds without triggering a minor crisis, something is horribly, horribly wrong.

It's not pronounced the same. They stress the i.



That's how I pronounce mobile. Or at least how I pronounce "mobile phone". I rarely use the word in any other context. I don't think the phrase "mobile home" has ever come out of my mouth (except right after I typed; I wanted to spite myself).

PolakoVoador wrote:AAAAHH!
Warning, horrible horribleness in the link below.
Doctors pull three-inch insect from a man's ear in India


I think this beats that: http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life/br ... 15569.html


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Postby addams » Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:56 am UTC

WilliamLehnsherr wrote:
PolakoVoador wrote:AAAAHH!
Warning, horrible horribleness in the link below.
Doctors pull three-inch insect from a man's ear in India


I think this beats that: http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life/br ... 15569.html

One does not beat the other.
Those are two complimentary links.
Funny complimentary links.

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Postby HungryHobo » Tue Oct 14, 2014 4:40 pm UTC

The school story reminded me of this:

http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/10/02/simpler-times/

Yesterday’s discussion of The Battle Hymn of the Republic took me to the Wikipedia page for The Burning of the School and thence to the Teacher Taunts page, which records some of the songs schoolchildren used to sing among themselves. See if you notice any consistent themes:

To the tune of “Oh My Darling Clementine”:

Build a bonfire out of schoolbooks,
Put the teacher on the top,
Put the prefects in the middle
And we’ll burn the bloody lot.


To the tune of “Deck The Halls”:

Deck the halls with gasoline
fa la la la la la la la la
Light a match and watch it gleam
fa la la la la la la la la
Watch the school burn down to ashes
Fa la la la la la la la la
Aren’t you glad you played with matches
fa la la la la la la la la

To the tune of “Round and Round” (which I’ve never heard of):

Drop a bomb and it goes down, down, down,
Till it hits the school with a happy sound.
All the teachers Will go round, round, round,
While the school is burning to the ground.
And to the tune of Battle Hymn:
Mine eyes have seen the glory of the burning of the school,
We have tortured all the teachers, we have broken every rule,
We’re marching down the hall to hang the principal,
Us kids are marching on!
Glory, glory, halleujah!
Teacher beat me with a ruler,
I knocked her to the floor with a loaded forty-four,
And that teacher don’t teach no more!

To the tune of “On Top Of Old Smokey”:

On top of old smokey
All covered in blood
I shot my poor teacher
with a .44 slug
I shot her for pleasure
I shot her for fear
I shot her for drinking
My Budweiser beer

I went to her funeral
I went to her grave
Some people threw flowers
But I threw grenades

I looked in her coffin
She wasn’t quite dead
So I took a machete
And cut off her head

They took me to prison
Put me in a cell
So I grabbed a bazooka
And blew them to hell

To the tune of “Ta Ra Ra Boom De Ay”:

Tah-rah-rah-boom-si-ay
We have no school today
Our teacher passed away
We shot her yesterday
We threw her in the bay
She scared the sharks away
Tah-rah-rah-boom-si-ay
We have no school today


I’ve previously pointed out that social psychology includes a lot of crummy theories based on streetlight psychology. We like to think that if children use toy guns, or hear about guns on TV, or are allowed to draw violent pictures or write violent stories, that’s going to turn them into school shooters. Or how if any kid uses the word “shoot” and “school” on the same day they need to be dragged to the counselor for a full psychological assessment and maybe suspended for good measure. Yet in the past, children basically did nothing except sing about the bloody ways they were going to kill their teachers all day, and where were all their school shootings?

…is what I’d like to say. But looking through Wikipedia it seems like there were in fact quite a few school shootings. Not more than there are today, probably somewhat fewer, but without doing some kind of official count and adjusting for population and firearm access it’d be hard to tell for sure.

So I’ll use this to belabor a different hobby horse of mine.


But judging from these songs, people in my dad’s generation saw nothing wrong with hordes of children singing all lunch hour about how they were going to shoot their teachers with .44s, then light the principal on fire and burn the school – except maybe that it was disrespectful, or that children should be seen and not heard.

Here were kids singing about shooting the teacher, and then there were a couple of kids actually shooting teachers, but no one saw any reason to connect these two data points. And if you tried, you would be confronted with formidable evidence against – these were popular songs, sung by popular children in happy boisterous groups, and the school shooters were usually these sad loners who were left out of all the fun “kill the teacher” songs.

If you were to tell my dad’s teachers that all these songs about shooting teachers were causing or contributing to school shootings, I think they might have said something like “Well, that’s a new and audacious social psychological theory. I hope you have proof.”
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Postby KrytenKoro » Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:25 pm UTC

I remember when my school accused me of planning such an event and expelled me, I at first thought they were joking because I didn't even realize that was a thing you could do. To be absolutely, unnecessarily fair, the way the school allowed/encouraged the other kids to treat me, I wouldn't have been particularly upset if someone else did something like that, I just could never do anything violent myself.

Still, it seems profoundly counterproductive to further other, isolate, and humiliate the children you're oh-so-scared will snap from the existing harassment. Counseling would definitely be a good idea, sure, but much, much more effective would be to just fucking listen to the kid and try to make actual corrections when they report the shit they're being put through -- because I definitely reported that stuff all the time, and instead of anything ever being said to these kids (and teachers), I was instead disciplined for being "a disturbance".

These Zero Tolerance programs are less than worth nothing. They make the problem worse.
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Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

Postby Tyndmyr » Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:07 pm UTC

KrytenKoro wrote:These Zero Tolerance programs are less than worth nothing. They make the problem worse.


Precisely. They end up being used as a club against relatively minor, technical transgressions, and they're explicitly a substitute for actually using good judgement. Things like "causing a disturbance" can be applied to nearly anything.

Of course, training kids that the world is full of arbitrary rules set up by people primarily interested in their own convenience is...education of a sort, I suppose.

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Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

Postby addams » Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:58 pm UTC

(ech)
You are quick to condemn.
If the school did nothing, you would condemn them.

I worry about what a fucking AssHole the psychiatrist might be.
I also worry about a culture that is SO fucking Violent.

The children see criminal cruelty, violence and despair in their own homes Daily!
The TV brings it in.

Just like any War, some children see more.
How the adults respond is important.

Some people have dedicated themselves to the idea,
"The school environment will feel, look and sound Safe."

Those people can not Make it safe.
They can make an effort to Stop The Violence at the door.
They have my support.

If you play sexy, sexy fun shoot 'em up games at home....Fucking Fine!
That little Bastard of yours better learn Time and Place. Not at School!

School is Like Church! AsssHole!
There is a List of Shit, You Do Not Do!!
Don't Do That Shit!

Who knows?
They may have made a bitter AssHole of you.
What if they had never stopped you?

When do you think Professionals should step in?
The US has very little support or guidance for Professionals.
Of course they are going to make mistakes.

How about we try something New?
Turn off the fucking TV and pretend to be Real People for a Fucking Change!

The schools Should have classes for the Adults!
No child is allowed to put others at risk until that child's guardians have successfully completed The Class.

A new kind of segregation on it's way.
The children of inadequate, unaccomplished, undisciplined adults will Not be allowed to interact with and endanger the children of decent people.

(fuck) We are There.
Hell-o; I'd like you to meet The Private School Child.
In uniform and worried about the Recital this week-end.

That child would be taken out of the classroom for saying, "Phew".
It's Nanny would have some pointed questions to answer, too.

The US is a Nation of Trashy, Squawking AssHoles.
There are decent people lost in among them.

The decent people rarely make the News.
Come On..Tell me more about the injustices of, "Sit the fuck down and shut the fuck up."
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Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

Postby sardia » Tue Oct 14, 2014 8:01 pm UTC

Tyndmyr wrote:
KrytenKoro wrote:These Zero Tolerance programs are less than worth nothing. They make the problem worse.


Precisely. They end up being used as a club against relatively minor, technical transgressions, and they're explicitly a substitute for actually using good judgement. Things like "causing a disturbance" can be applied to nearly anything.

Of course, training kids that the world is full of arbitrary rules set up by people primarily interested in their own convenience is...education of a sort, I suppose.

That's like teaching today's immigrants that someday they too can achieve the American dream of persecuting tomorrow's immigrants and or marginalized group. It's true, but sad.

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Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

Postby operagost » Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:27 pm UTC

There are towns named "Moosejaw" and "Hell" in North America, and you Europeans get hung up on Mobile.

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Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

Postby bigglesworth » Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:28 pm UTC

It's the main reason I'd educate a child privately. I want to let my child find out that they're part of a system that's meant to aid and abet their continued dominance, if it's a choice between that and letting them find out they're in a system that doesn't care about them and just wants obedience and not to be questioned.
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Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

Postby mousewiz » Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:42 pm UTC

operagost wrote:There are towns named "Moosejaw" and "Hell" in North America, and you Europeans get hung up on Mobile.

I'm not sure why you'd pick "Moosejaw" of all names to single out... it does not seem to be on the same level as "Hell". If you want a better one, there's a place called "Dildo" in Newfoundland.

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Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

Postby Mutex » Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:43 pm UTC

operagost wrote:There are towns named "Moosejaw" and "Hell" in North America, and you Europeans get hung up on Mobile.


I think the fact it's an adjective (or looks like one when written), and was also used as an adjective in the article (eg "Mobile mother") confused Diadem.

Would have been even better if it was about this town.

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Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

Postby KrytenKoro » Tue Oct 14, 2014 10:07 pm UTC

Possibly derailing rant:
Spoiler:
addams wrote:(ech)
You are quick to condemn.
If the school did nothing, you would condemn them.

No, I wouldn't. Or at least, if the school did nothing to punish a kid, who, by their profile, is "dangerous because life is already punishing them", I wouldn't condemn them. They didn't make the kid snap. In fact, most of the time I don't even condemn the person shooting, since it's usually clear how badly their mind has been warped by those around them. You shouldn't denigrate the sick for being ill.

They may have made a bitter AssHole of you.
What if they had never stopped you?

Chum, I don't even do drugs, okay? Never even smoked, I drink maybe once a year, and the main thing they quoted was when I quoted from Exodus when a teacher tried to claim that capital punishment was anti-christian.

If they spent one second ever giving a brown shit about actually solving a problem, they would have asked me why "I feel the need to shoot up the school", would have found that I thought the notion ridiculous, and would have realized how fundamentally pacifistic I am.

If they had not stopped me, I'd probably have ended up even more strait-laced and less bitter than I am now. 'cause now I know even the authorities are morons and thugs, and not to be trusted.

When do you think Professionals should step in?
The US has very little support or guidance for Professionals.
Of course they are going to make mistakes.

When someone says they need help, and then they should work to give that help. When the other kids have been seen by a teacher beating a child who refused to fight back, they should punish the offenders rather than castigating the child for "not fitting in".

Not when someone manages to trip one of their "red flags", and then they jump into action to beat the shit out of the symptom rather than the disease -- and in the end just make it even clearer to any kid like them that no one's willing to give them the help they need, and asking will just make their lives worse.

How about we try something New?
Turn off the fucking TV and pretend to be Real People for a Fucking Change!

How about they show me one gotdamn reliable study that shows that it's the media's fault for the same behavior we've had for millennia, instead of the freaking societal structure status quo that the authorities are so keen to keep undisturbed.

The children of inadequate, unaccomplished, undisciplined adults will Not be allowed to interact with and endanger the children of decent people.

This is a sentiment that it is really hard not to swear at. I was one of the hardest working, quitest, politest kids in that damn school. They picked on me because I was chubby and not one of the rich, popular kids in that private school -- as soon as I left, they started picking on the next poorest kid, as he reported to me. It's the same fucking behavior that society has always promoted, not anything new or unique to schools or media or whatever excuse society'd rather blame rather than itself.
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Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

Postby Grop » Tue Oct 14, 2014 11:05 pm UTC

Mutex wrote:I think the fact it's an adjective (or looks like one when written), and was also used as an adjective in the article (eg "Mobile mother") confused Diadem.


This, and poor writing by the journalists. "A Mobile mother" is really silly and confusing wording.


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