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Postby CorruptUser » Sat Jan 17, 2015 11:47 am UTC

Thesh wrote:If same-sex marriage bans are ruled unconstitutional, religious leaders warn that America will be reduced to a smoldering crater after fire and brimstone rains down from the sky, like we saw with Canada a few years back, and that the survivors will resort to having sex with ducks.


God I hope he's right

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Postby jestingrabbit » Sat Jan 17, 2015 2:02 pm UTC

Thesh wrote:Either this is going to completely strike down gay marriage bans, or it will overturn rulings at the state level that made same-sex marriage legal in so many states.


Or it could find some weird half pregnant middle ground.
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Postby Mutex » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:43 pm UTC

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Angua wrote:Fox news now has Nigel Farage as their go-to guy for European "facts".

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/01/13/fox-news-nigel-farage_n_6461938.html

Huh I thought Nigel Farage was the anti-Euro guy. When did he go full anti-islam?


He's a UK nationalist. He's anti Europe and anti Islam. Always has been.


Also most of the party are homophobic (and think gay marriage causes flooding), have very outdated views on women, and just generally want to drag the country back to the dark ages. While I can understand people being concerned about levels of immigrations, or the control the EU has over our sovereignty, I think to overlook the reality of what you're getting when you vote UKIP you have to either be incredibly naive, or worse, ok with it.

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Postby CorruptUser » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:30 pm UTC

You make it sound like they'd be super chummy with Muslim fundamentalists.

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Postby addams » Sat Jan 17, 2015 9:02 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:
Thesh wrote:If same-sex marriage bans are ruled unconstitutional, religious leaders warn that America will be reduced to a smoldering crater after fire and brimstone rains down from the sky, like we saw with Canada a few years back, and that the survivors will resort to having sex with ducks.


God I hope he's right

Sex with Ducks in the Rain.
It's funny. Will it be Law?

We don't have very many backward laws, like that.
A law that requires every person to take a test or have sex with ducks or to maintain measles vaccine.

In fact; Sex with ducks may be our first law that forces an action.
Is sex with duck being put on the Same sex marriage bill?
Was it written in as a Midnight Rider lobbied for by the Fundamentalist Christian Preachers Association?

What a great Law!
Enforcement is going to be a Bitch.

That will keep military intelligence busy.
What else do they have to do?
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Postby Coyne » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:24 am UTC

CorruptUser wrote:You make it sound like they'd be super chummy with Muslim fundamentalists.

I'm sure the groups would get along great--also the Republicans--if it weren't for the need for enemies to excoriate.
In all fairness...

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Postby addams » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:18 am UTC

Coyne wrote:
CorruptUser wrote:You make it sound like they'd be super chummy with Muslim fundamentalists.

I'm sure the groups would get along great--also the Republicans--if it weren't for the need for enemies to excoriate.

I think you are Correct.
What kind of a world do those folks want to live in?

The Fundy Christians, The Fundy Islamics, The Fat Cat Republicans all have a similar world view.
If they were not torn by internal conflict, would we all be speaking Arabic or Hebrew?

Hebrew.
Arabic and Latin remain as second languages.

I read that Book!
It's Hebrew!

Where did the Hindus go?
Hindus. oh, Hindus;
Are your people sane?
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Postby PM 2Ring » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:10 am UTC

addams wrote:Where did the Hindus go?
Hindus. oh, Hindus;
Are your people sane?


Well... maybe. Some traditional Hindu beliefs are a bit odd to outsiders. However, Hindus do not tend to be inclined to go to war over religious / philosophical differences of opinion, unless it's necessary to defend themselves. At least, not in recent millennia.

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Postby firechicago » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:39 am UTC

PM 2Ring wrote:Well... maybe. Some traditional Hindu beliefs are a bit odd to outsiders. However, Hindus do not tend to be inclined to go to war over religious / philosophical differences of opinion, unless it's necessary to defend themselves. At least, not in recent millennia.

Really? Are you quite sure about that?

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Postby elasto » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:34 pm UTC

A five-year-old was billed for failing to attend a friend's birthday party - resulting in threats of legal action.

Alex Nash, from Cornwall, was invited to the party just before Christmas.

An invoice for £15.95 was sent by his schoolfriend's mother Julie Lawrence, who said Alex's non-attendance left her out of pocket and his parents had her details to tell her he was not going. Alex's father Derek said he had been told he would be taken to the small claims court for refusing to pay.

Alex's parents, from Torpoint, had accepted an invitation to the party at a dry ski slope in Plymouth, Devon, just before Christmas. However, they realised their son was double-booked and due to spend time with his grandparents, which he did. His parents said they had no contact information for Ms Lawrence at that time.

They found the invoice in a brown envelope in his schoolbag last week. Mr Nash said: "It was a proper invoice with full official details and even her bank details on it. I can understand that she's upset about losing money. The money isn't the issue, it's the way she went about trying to get the money from me. She didn't treat me like a human being, she treated me like a child and that I should do what she says."

In a short statement, Ms Lawrence said: "All details were on the party invite. They had every detail needed to contact me."

Mr Nash said he had been told he was being taken to the small claims court because he was refusing to pay.


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Postby CorruptUser » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:49 pm UTC

I was under the impression that Hindus invented suicide bombings...

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Postby Coyne » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:00 pm UTC

PM 2Ring wrote:Some traditional [religion of any type] beliefs are a bit odd to outsiders.


FTFY
In all fairness...

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Postby Thesh » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:59 pm UTC

Angua wrote:Fox news strikes again (he has since apologised, but one wonders what on earth moved him to to make such a statement in the first place).

An American terrorism commentator has apologised for describing Birmingham as a "Muslim-only city" where non-Muslims "don't go" during a Fox News interview.

Steven Emerson told the channel that in London "Muslim religious police" beat "anyone who doesn't dress according to Muslim, religious Muslim attire".

http://www.cnn.com/2015/01/19/politics/ ... es-london/

Bobby Jindal decides to seize on this opportunity to keep the " stupid party" alive.
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Postby PM 2Ring » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:12 am UTC

firechicago wrote:
PM 2Ring wrote:Well... maybe. Some traditional Hindu beliefs are a bit odd to outsiders. However, Hindus do not tend to be inclined to go to war over religious / philosophical differences of opinion, unless it's necessary to defend themselves. At least, not in recent millennia.

Really? Are you quite sure about that?


Yes, I am. I certainly wasn't claiming that Hindus don't go to war, or that they shy away from war on religious grounds. After all, two of the most significant Hindu epics are set in war: the Ramayana and the Mahabharata.

Those wars you linked to were primarily about territory, not about religious beliefs. True, there were also elements of cultural sovereignty in those conflicts, and I guess it's difficult (and of questionable utility) to separate Hindu cultural identity from Hindu religious beliefs. However, the Hindus were defending their rights against the Muslim aggressors, so that doesn't contradict my original statement.

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Postby sardia » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:32 am UTC

Everybody starts every war by claiming they were defending themselves from aggressors. It's far more revealing to dig into the underlying reasons for warfare. The he said/she said is just people dressing up an ugly truth.

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Postby addams » Tue Jan 20, 2015 4:39 am UTC

Those are two nice links, PM 2Ring.
A person could go wandering off into an ideal make believe world.
Maybe, humans must have make believe.

Reality sucks, sometimes.
And; Sometimes, reality is funny.

It is not difficult to see much of the World's conflicts as a direct result of Abrahamic Traditions.

That's not really fair.
If people want to be jerks, they will find a way with good justification from God.

War mongers hear a lot from God.
Or; So they say.

Maybe the Polythests are onto something.
Your God says, "Kill! Kill! Kill!"

Mine says, "Umm"
Then, it's real quiet.
Spoiler:
Stupid Pacifist God.
That's the way to get my ass kicked, again.


Let's not start a War here.
We can have a War Thread.

I could use the review.
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Postby SlyReaper » Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:32 pm UTC

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Postby addams » Thu Jan 22, 2015 3:19 am UTC

SlyReaper wrote:How incredibly petty.

what does that mean?
The next time they make a Muti-Million Dollar Movie;
They have to buy their own guns? Is that a problem?
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Postby Thesh » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:33 pm UTC

Florida Man tackles black guy for having a legal concealed weapon.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/publicsafe ... or/2214432
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"He's got a gun!" deputies said Foster shouted.

"I have a permit!" Daniels yelled back multiple times, McKinnon said.

The men struggled and were separated until law enforcement arrived on scene just before noon. Foster was arrested and charged with battery.


it's good to see some sane and proper behaviour (from officials) in the news sometimes.
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Postby sardia » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:23 pm UTC

HungryHobo wrote:


"He's got a gun!" deputies said Foster shouted.

"I have a permit!" Daniels yelled back multiple times, McKinnon said.

The men struggled and were separated until law enforcement arrived on scene just before noon. Foster was arrested and charged with battery.


it's good to see some sane and proper behaviour (from officials) in the news sometimes.

Isn't panick calling 911 what got the last black guy with a gun at Walmart killed? Its probably better the unarmed guy assaulted him. The cops would have shot first, shot some more, and then regretfully asked some questions.

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Postby addams » Fri Jan 23, 2015 11:42 pm UTC

HungryHobo wrote:it's good to see some sane and proper behavior (from officials) in the news sometimes.

"All is well that ends well."
From a distance, people are funny.

A person does not need to meet a very high standard of Sane and Reasonable to trump
a Black Man walking into a Walmart (of all places) openly carrying a handgun and a Ya’ Hoo Hero wanna be.

The police remained under control.

We need names and numbers.
Those guys earned a reward.

Some people might say they were just doing their job.
We know Not shooting is Award Winning Behavior.
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Postby dragon » Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:05 am UTC

Mothers banned from breastfeeding at conference aimed at 'removing the barriers' to breastfeeding.
Organisers for the event, titled “Shifting the Curve - Sharing the Challenge Breastfeeding Summit”, said it was "open to everyone who works with children and families" and aimed to “remove some of the barriers” about breastfeeding.
Yet when mothers asked if they could breastfeed their babies at next month’s conference at Edinburgh’s Murrayfield Stadium, they were told by officials that this would not be "appropriate”.
Elise Stirling, who runs parenting consultancy Bond, Baby!, said she was “dumbfounded” when she was told by officials that the event was for “professionals" rather than breastfeeding mothers.
“Obviously it had not occurred to them that you can be both,” said Ms Stirling, 31, from Falkirk.
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Empathy is for suckers.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/romn ... publicans/
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there isn’t an obvious relationship between how “in-touch” the candidates are and the election result. (In fact, the correlation between the Democratic edge on this question and the election result is zero.) For example, John McCain was seen to be as caring in 2008 as Ronald Reagan was in 1984, but Reagan won by 18 percentage points and McCain lost by 7 points.

The bottom line: Republicans are always losing on this question.
I'm kinda saddened that how much empathy you have has no correlation with being electable. Digging deeper, it shows that voters just rely on party stereotypes, so all GOP guys are corporate shills who are more trusted on taxes and war. Democrats own the label on medicare/social security.

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dragon wrote:Mothers banned from breastfeeding at conference aimed at 'removing the barriers' to breastfeeding.
Organisers for the event, titled “Shifting the Curve - Sharing the Challenge Breastfeeding Summit”, said it was "open to everyone who works with children and families" and aimed to “remove some of the barriers” about breastfeeding.
Yet when mothers asked if they could breastfeed their babies at next month’s conference at Edinburgh’s Murrayfield Stadium, they were told by officials that this would not be "appropriate”.
Elise Stirling, who runs parenting consultancy Bond, Baby!, said she was “dumbfounded” when she was told by officials that the event was for “professionals" rather than breastfeeding mothers.
“Obviously it had not occurred to them that you can be both,” said Ms Stirling, 31, from Falkirk.

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Postby SlyReaper » Sat Jan 24, 2015 12:09 pm UTC

That's pretty hilarious, but I suspect it was probably the venue owner who prohibited it rather than the conference organisers.
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Postby elasto » Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:15 pm UTC

Possibly, but the organizers could still choose to 'put their money where their mouth is' and give a practical demonstration of how to overcome such overzealous prudity.

Even if they subsequently fail it could serve as a clarion call; Whereas if they just roll over and give up they're announcing to the world that it's just too hard to fight it - defeating their own message before they've even started...

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elasto wrote:Possibly, but the organizers could still choose to 'put their money where their mouth is' and give a practical demonstration of how to overcome such overzealous prudity.

They already did - it's in the original article:
“The event was initially organised for health professionals and service providers.
But we are sorry that mums were initially told they wouldn’t be able to attend this event with their babies, and following a number of enquiries from mothers we have now arranged baby changing facilities so they will be welcome to breast feed in the sessions or, if preferred, in the quiet areas provided.”

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icanus wrote:
elasto wrote:Possibly, but the organizers could still choose to 'put their money where their mouth is' and give a practical demonstration of how to overcome such overzealous prudity.

They already did - it's in the original article:
“The event was initially organised for health professionals and service providers.
But we are sorry that mums were initially told they wouldn’t be able to attend this event with their babies, and following a number of enquiries from mothers we have now arranged baby changing facilities so they will be welcome to breast feed in the sessions or, if preferred, in the quiet areas provided.”

People can be Sooo snotty.
And; Whiney like children that need a nap.

Yes. No Babies allowed Does mean No Breast Feeding on the floor of The Conference.
Why no Babies? A no babies rule can makes sense. It's ok to talk behind a babies back.

A bunch of professionals can have a productive meeting with babies in attendance. It's kind'a fun.
People that are Not used to babies and meetings and can do neither well, should not be doing Both.
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Postby Diadem » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:51 pm UTC

I'm confused. Why would you need to set up "baby changing facilities" to allow breastfeeding? You don't need to do anything to allow breastfeeding, except to stop being a dick about it.

Of course baby changing facilities are also much appreciated.

what do they change the babies into though?
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Postby Grop » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:00 pm UTC

Diadem wrote:I'm confused. Why would you need to set up "baby changing facilities" to allow breastfeeding?


I took it to mean mothers with babies were welcome, not that is was directly related to breastfeeding.

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Postby Thesh » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:01 pm UTC

Diadem wrote:what do they change the babies into though?


Depends on the alchemist.
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Postby PeteP » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:29 pm UTC

Thesh wrote:
Diadem wrote:what do they change the babies into though?


Depends on the alchemist.

Knowing what I know about alchemy I would assume you use them in chimeras to make them smarter.

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Postby elasto » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:15 am UTC

icanus wrote:
elasto wrote:Possibly, but the organizers could still choose to 'put their money where their mouth is' and give a practical demonstration of how to overcome such overzealous prudity.

They already did - it's in the original article:
“The event was initially organised for health professionals and service providers.
But we are sorry that mums were initially told they wouldn’t be able to attend this event with their babies, and following a number of enquiries from mothers we have now arranged baby changing facilities so they will be welcome to breast feed in the sessions or, if preferred, in the quiet areas provided.”

Oh. So breastfeeding is not in fact banned there. It was temporarily disallowed but quickly revoked once the mistake was realized?

Bit of a non-story then.

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Postby addams » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:47 am UTC

Grop wrote:
Diadem wrote:I'm confused. Why would you need to set up "baby changing facilities" to allow breastfeeding?


I took it to mean mothers with babies were welcome, not that is was directly related to breastfeeding.

It is a reasonable question.
The standard use of a baby changing area changes with Time and Culture.

Baby changing areas are needed the same way and for the same reason more mature children and adults need toilet facilities.
Some of us get queazy when we see and smell a full diaper exposed. Some folks get queazy watching Santa take a dump.

Breast feeding can be done discreetly.
There is a baby accessory named the 'Nursing Shawl'.

If Mom and babe use a Nursing Shawl they get good at it.
Most people don't know and don't care what is going on under the shawl.

A nursing mom can still Think!
Traditionally, nursing moms gave orders, took orders, and performed an entertaining array of single handed tasks.

There was and still may be a movement toward mom's sitting quietly while nursing.
There was and still may be Push Back. Some moms don't want to sit in silence.

Nursing babies don't disturb meetings.
The baby is usually quiet.
Its mouth is full.

ps. Some babies will have Nothing to do with a Nursing Shawl.
They want to socialize while they eat, just like you do.
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Postby Angua » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:41 am UTC

Do we have a WTF thread? Because this needs a WTF thread.

Woman, Visiting Family Member in Jail, Held Against Her Will, Forced to Strip for Prison Guards

Because, apparently the only way a woman can use a pad in a prison is for the guards to look at her vagina to make sure she actually needs it.
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Postby Diadem » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:49 am UTC

What the fuck?

What possible justification do they have for that? I can understand a guard wanting to look at all items someone brings into a prison, including female hygiene products. But why the fuck the strip search? Would the prison suffer some sort of terrible security risk if a visitor used a tampon while not menstruating?

It's a shame the woman is not seeking damages. It's always nice to see people stand up for principles, instead of money, but in this case I fear not much is going to change if all they get is a slap on the wrist.
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Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

Postby Angua » Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:58 am UTC

I think she is suing for damages, she's just asking for that other stuff as well.
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Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

Postby addams » Mon Jan 26, 2015 10:37 am UTC

At first, I thought that Article belongs in the Police Misbehavior Thread.
Then, I thought, "No. Private Prisons don't use Trained Professionals"

Those Guards don't know any better.
They didn't get the 18 weeks of education Police get.

And; That woman can thank her Lucky Stars for that.
Trained Police may have Shot her. They are trained to shoot.
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Re: In other news... (humorous news items, etc)

Postby Tyndmyr » Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:41 pm UTC

sardia wrote:Empathy is for suckers.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/romn ... publicans/
Spoiler:
there isn’t an obvious relationship between how “in-touch” the candidates are and the election result. (In fact, the correlation between the Democratic edge on this question and the election result is zero.) For example, John McCain was seen to be as caring in 2008 as Ronald Reagan was in 1984, but Reagan won by 18 percentage points and McCain lost by 7 points.

The bottom line: Republicans are always losing on this question.
I'm kinda saddened that how much empathy you have has no correlation with being electable. Digging deeper, it shows that voters just rely on party stereotypes, so all GOP guys are corporate shills who are more trusted on taxes and war. Democrats own the label on medicare/social security.


How much empathy you are SEEN as having. I dare say there is a certain cynicism about politicians attempting to appear caring. How people see them might not well represent how caring they actually are, as every politician does a certain degree of image manipulation. It is interesting that republicans are bad at this bit, but if it doesn't correlate, maybe it's rational to ignore it.

Personally, I would vote for Ultron, if I thought he/it would make a better leader than the alternatives, epathy be damned. Bring on the robot overlords.


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