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Postby HungryHobo » Sat Nov 28, 2015 11:44 am UTC

Puppyclaws wrote:This is the thing: nobody involved in the debate wants free speech shut down or silenced or whatever. That is all in people's heads. Some people are requesting that other people not be dicks, with the only consequence threatened being "if you do that anyway it makes you a dick."


No, not everyone is being nice.

There are quite a few involved who take the position that even debating what should be allowed to be said makes them "unsafe". Every time you hear the word "unsafe" remember that it's a loaded euphemism for wanting an authority to forcefully shut someone up because if you can frame something as making you feel unsafe then you can assert a right to "feel safe" and claim they are infringing it.

Ken on Popehat, a lawyer specializing in free speech did a couple of articles on it.

https://popehat.com/2015/11/09/safe-spa ... -as-sword/

https://popehat.com/2015/11/10/safe-spa ... d-part-ii/

Possibly the most depressing scene was that poor immigrant girl who got shouted down with cries of "PRIVILEGE PLUS POWER!" when she made the mistake of saying she'd experienced racism from other minority groups. What a depressing scene. Some of the most privileged children of some of the nations most powerful families at one of the nations most elite schools shouting down a girl for saying that it's important to judge people as individuals and that she'd experienced racism from people of all colours because they're such racist, arrogant and hateful people that the only way they can defend themselves from accusations of racism is to redefine it such that it can never apply to their own actions.

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Postby Sheikh al-Majaneen » Sat Nov 28, 2015 8:43 pm UTC

How is your prediction encoded? Besides being hex, I mean, from what?

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Postby Puppyclaws » Sat Nov 28, 2015 9:05 pm UTC

WRT Yale (not Mizzou or other situations I am not talking about): That Popehat got it wrong and cites several other people (Reason, FIRE) getting it wrong (I also don't take any of those three publications seriously at all) is not very interesting to me. That coverage is inaccurate, all you have to do is read the original text to realize that.

ETA: Loaded euphemisms are all in your head.

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Postby addams » Sun Nov 29, 2015 9:10 pm UTC

Sheikh al-Majaneen wrote:
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CorruptUser wrote:I haven't been paying too much attention, but the story is vaguely something like this.

Girl wants college to ban "offensive" holloween costumes.
Dean's wife responds by email that he isn't the fucking fashion police.
Girl organizes campaign to get Dean fired.

So, no. Jesus.

1) In response to a multitude of complaints they had been getting (not just about this but about general racism), the administration puts out an e-mail to please be respectful and consider (REALLY FUCKING IMPORTANT DISTINCTION HERE) not doing "offensive costumes" like blackface, feathered-native american, etc. Absolutely no penalties were proposed, nor were any bans ever mentioned.
2) The wife of the Master, who herself holds a similar position (with Master being a completely different role in charge of interfacing with students), aware of the complaints that had been made, takes time to put out an e-mail saying basically "it's not the administration's place to so much as hint that this kind of thing could be considered offensive or unacceptable; 'it's not our job'."
3) A large group of minority students get pissed at being patronized after finally getting someone to acknowledge that racism is -possibly- a problem, with one in particular shouting a clickbaitable soundbite.
4) Outrage media proceeds as normal, claiming the students are trying to turn the university into a crib, and criticizing the one student's family being wealthy despite the issue having nothing to with wealth disparity, and despite the administration in question being no slouches themselves (in what appears to be an accusation of being a class-traitor).
5) Hate speech fetishists Those who believe that free speech is meaningless without encouraging hate speech suck down the outrage media's version of events hook, line, and sinker.
6) This is all easily researchable by reading the damn e-mails instead of regurgitating the story the outrage media is telling.


First, the letter that started it, from Yale's Intercultural Affairs Committee. I understand this asTL;DRing to "do what you want, but please be respectful of others."

Then, Erika Christakis' response to some student complaints. This one's TL;DR would be "I understand the objections to these costumes, but you are not children and we will not treat you like children; if you have a problem with someone's costume, please talk to them about it rather than demanding intervention from authorities." This is not an unreasonable position.

Then the open letter responding to her letter.

The first two messages look, to my eyes, like reasonable people communicating reasonably.
Both messages call for the students of Yale, some of our best and brightest, to Think!

Then, of course, the third message. (yuck)
(Ech.) When the message became accusations the message became, to my eyes, not worthy of Yale and not worth reading.
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Postby Tyndmyr » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:09 pm UTC

HungryHobo wrote:Possibly the most depressing scene was that poor immigrant girl who got shouted down with cries of "PRIVILEGE PLUS POWER!" when she made the mistake of saying she'd experienced racism from other minority groups. What a depressing scene.


I try to avoid using the word "privilege". It just seems to almost invariably be either a way to derail a conversation or to be used as a way to dismiss or ignore someone. I find it helps to take a few extra words to explain how exactly this particular situation is messed up, rather than repeating the buzzword.

Otherwise, you're only talking to those who already believe as you do.

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Postby KrytenKoro » Mon Nov 30, 2015 3:37 pm UTC

Sheikh al-Majaneen wrote:As for 'hate speech fetishists', that must be a deliberate misconstrual of free speech supporters. Those of us who think free speech is really fucking important tend to believe that the only rational response to hate speech is more speech, rather than the use of force by authorities to silence it.

No, it's a deliberate description of the kind of sites leading the outrage against the students, such as Reason or Breitbart -- which have very much advocated hate speech.

That there are more reasonable people who also believe that the Yale students are at fault I will not dispute, but they're not the ones leading the internet outrage machine in this case.

Possibly the most depressing scene was that poor immigrant girl who got shouted down with cries of "PRIVILEGE PLUS POWER!" when she made the mistake of saying she'd experienced racism from other minority groups. What a depressing scene. Some of the most privileged children of some of the nations most powerful families at one of the nations most elite schools shouting down a girl for saying that it's important to judge people as individuals and that she'd experienced racism from people of all colours because they're such racist, arrogant and hateful people that the only way they can defend themselves from accusations of racism is to redefine it such that it can never apply to their own actions.

Their point is that it is an entirely different beast when someone is being hateful to you vs. when someone is being hateful to you with all the weight of the institution and society behind them. While I disagree with vehemently with the idea that being part of the "oppressed group" gives you a get out of jail free card (which, honestly, I'm not sure is what they're saying, I'd need to review the incident, care to provide a link?), I can definitely understand being frustrated when you're attempting to point out how the deck is stacked against you and people keep trotting out "well, that can't be important because people have been hateful to me without all the baggage you guys are actually complaining about" -- esp. when they're argument seems to be, if I'm reading you correctly, "minorities can be bigots too, therefore bigotry against minorities isn't a problem worth addressing."

I've definitely seen anti-bigot crusaders falling prey to soft bigotry against "neckbeards", and I've seen textual evidence of plenty of harder bigotry against "whites", bred from what was arguably once-reasonable distrust of those complicit in the system against them. It definitely happens, and it's disheartening, but it seems obvious to me that the more pressing problem will always be addressing the bigotry that is causing the most damage at the current time and place. (In Cambodia, that was once bigotry against intellectuals and the rich. In America, it can be the opposite, where the poor and uneducated are treated as if they prefer their circumstances and are "leeches" if they seek welfare assistance. There are tons of differences that can be turned into a knife.) The pressing task seems to be making sure that there is, at least, not a well-funded and armed machine at the bigot's beck and call.

Tho, yeah, it's pretty ridiculous to be chanting "privilege plus power" in a, by definition, powerful display of solidarity.
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Postby Tyndmyr » Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:04 pm UTC

KrytenKoro wrote:I've definitely seen anti-bigot crusaders falling prey to soft bigotry against "neckbeards", and I've seen textual evidence of plenty of harder bigotry against "whites", bred from what was arguably once-reasonable distrust of those complicit in the system against them. It definitely happens, and it's disheartening, but it seems obvious to me that the more pressing problem will always be addressing the bigotry that is causing the most damage at the current time and place.


It's all the same problem.

Addressing only one portion, on the basis of it being the "bigger" problem and ignoring the rest isn't really fixing the problem, just perpetuating it.

Sure, a given cluster of traits make up whoever is on top of the heap now. And yes, by definition, those with power can do more damage than those without. But you can't really fix racism or whatever by attacking one kind of racism and ignoring the other kinds. That ends up just promoting a given side.

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Postby CorruptUser » Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:33 pm UTC

Tyndmyr wrote:
HungryHobo wrote:Possibly the most depressing scene was that poor immigrant girl who got shouted down with cries of "PRIVILEGE PLUS POWER!" when she made the mistake of saying she'd experienced racism from other minority groups. What a depressing scene.


I try to avoid using the word "privilege". It just seems to almost invariably be either a way to derail a conversation or to be used as a way to dismiss or ignore someone. I find it helps to take a few extra words to explain how exactly this particular situation is messed up, rather than repeating the buzzword.

Otherwise, you're only talking to those who already believe as you do.


I mostly use the word privilege ironically on social justice types. Anyone that promotes organic farming when they themselves have never seen a farm. Anyone that opposes hunting for food. All the anti vaxxers who never saw polio. And that's without getting into hookworm. Fuck hookworm.

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CorruptUser wrote:I mostly use the word privilege ironically on social justice types. Anyone that promotes organic farming when they themselves have never seen a farm. Anyone that opposes hunting for food. All the anti vaxxers who never saw polio. And that's without getting into hookworm. Fuck hookworm.


While this is accurate, I doubt that this will be successful in conveying to them exactly what the problem is, because they already have "privilege" defined in their heads, in such a way as to not include their behavior.

It may be more useful to ask probing questions that reveal their lack of experience. Ask the anti-hunting person if they prefer that a chicken be farmed(with all that entails) than a grouse live in the wild, and die a likely painless death.

General labeling can easily misunderstood, perhaps wilfully, or ignored/rejected. It's good for insulting people, but not so helpful for convincing them.

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Postby CorruptUser » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:36 pm UTC

I only use it as a last resort if they are otherwise beyond help. It's hilarious, since "privileged" is the new "racist", and the social justice types never expect to be called by their own newspeak terminology.

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Postby KrytenKoro » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:55 pm UTC

Tyndmyr wrote:Addressing only one portion, on the basis of it being the "bigger" problem and ignoring the rest isn't really fixing the problem, just perpetuating it.

Sure, a given cluster of traits make up whoever is on top of the heap now. And yes, by definition, those with power can do more damage than those without. But you can't really fix racism or whatever by attacking one kind of racism and ignoring the other kinds. That ends up just promoting a given side.

Ignoring the rest? Sure, that's not going to help.

Acknowledging that you have to budget time/resources appropriately, and focusing on the areas which are most damaging? Again, totally different beast.

And again, when "Black people can be racist too" is used more often as an excuse to do nothing, rather than as a reason to do more...
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Postby KrytenKoro » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:03 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:My ideal society has some damn high income inequality, but based on what a person is actually worth to society rather than what they can weasel themselves into, minus taxes to provide the setting people need to actually become useful such as public education and basic housing, health care, etc. Because a society where the next Richard Feynman is mentally retarded due to starvation and easily curable illness is NOT particularly productive. Otherwise, I don't give two shits about someone being paid less for a less important job.

Granted I don't hang out on tumblr, so I don't know exactly what died-in-the-wool "social justice types" say about income inequality, but when I have seen it campaigned against, it's specifically against the fact that current income inequality prevents "the setting people need to actually become useful such as public education and basic housing, health care, etc." and most complaints are directed against those who got the wealth they could "weasel themselves into".

Also, criticisms about it being a signifier of an economy with low mobility and overall health, about to collapse or go through some sort of recession/depression.

I'd be interested to see some of the criticisms you're railing against. Got any quotes?
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Postby Tyndmyr » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:28 pm UTC

KrytenKoro wrote:
Tyndmyr wrote:Addressing only one portion, on the basis of it being the "bigger" problem and ignoring the rest isn't really fixing the problem, just perpetuating it.

Sure, a given cluster of traits make up whoever is on top of the heap now. And yes, by definition, those with power can do more damage than those without. But you can't really fix racism or whatever by attacking one kind of racism and ignoring the other kinds. That ends up just promoting a given side.

Ignoring the rest? Sure, that's not going to help.

Acknowledging that you have to budget time/resources appropriately, and focusing on the areas which are most damaging? Again, totally different beast.

And again, when "Black people can be racist too" is used more often as an excuse to do nothing, rather than as a reason to do more...


Well, looking at this particular example, I don't think that "do nothing" is really what was being angled for. I *think* the immigrant girl merely included that as a means of "I understand what you're saying, I've experienced something of the kind myself", which is much less mean spirited. It's trivial to observe that anyone can be racist, of course, what's interesting is the context it's in, and the arguments that accompany it. A group overtly shouting someone down who is apparently trying to hold a reasonable conversation is...informative.

KrytenKoro wrote:Granted I don't hang out on tumblr, so I don't know exactly what died-in-the-wool "social justice types" say about income inequality, but when I have seen it campaigned against, it's specifically against the fact that current income inequality prevents "the setting people need to actually become useful such as public education and basic housing, health care, etc." and most complaints are directed against those who got the wealth they could "weasel themselves into".


I also do not tumblr, but it does seem to go much beyond that. For one thing, public education is pretty accepted in the US, and while it's got a collection of strange issues, neither major party is really against public education, and I'm not sure that income inequality is a huge issue for public education. Yes, in some funding-related ways, income equality would help some schools...but that's mostly an artifact of schools relying on local funding and property taxes to begin with, and even with more income equality, some turf is going to remain a shitload more valuable than other turf. It seems like an incidental factor.

I'd go into more detail/other factors, but I fear we're drifting off the actual news item now, and further discussion on income inequality itself might be best pursued in it's own thread?

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Postby CorruptUser » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:37 pm UTC

Oh I agree that as is the system is counterproductive. I never said otherwise. I just think that certain social services should be provided by government, rather than ensuring that every Tom Dick and Harry can afford them.

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Living in America's First Majority-Muslim city


“There’s definitely a strong feeling that Muslims are the other,” she said. “It’s about culture, what kind of place Hamtramck will become. There’s definitely a fear, and to some degree, I share it.”

Saad Almasmari, a 28-year-old from Yemen who became the fourth Muslim elected to the six-member city council this month, doesn’t understand that fear.

Almasmari, the owner of an ice cream company who campaigned on building Hamtramck’s struggling economy and improving the public schools, said he is frustrated that so many residents expect the council’s Muslim members to be biased. He spent months campaigning everywhere in town, knocking on the doors of mosques and churches alike, he said.

“I don’t know why people keep putting religion into politics,” said Almasmari, who received the highest percentage of votes
(22 percent) of any candidate. “When we asked for votes, we didn’t ask what their religion was.”


Hamtramck’s exceedingly low home prices and relatively low crime rate have proved especially attractive to new immigrants, whose presence is visible everywhere. Most of the women strolling Joseph Campau Avenue wear hijabs, or headscarves, and niqabs, veils that leave only the area around the eyes open. Many of the markets advertise their wares in Arabic or Bengali, and some display signs telling customers that owners will return shortly — gone to pray, much in the same way Polish businesses once signaled that employees had gone to Mass.


Many longtime residents point to 2004 as the year they suspected that the town’s culture had shifted irrevocably. It was then that the city council gave permission to al-Islah Islamic Center to broadcast its call to prayer from speakers atop its roof.

“The Polish people think we were invading them,” said Masud Khan, one of the mosque’s leaders, recalling that time in an interview earlier this month. “We were a big threat to their religion and culture. Now their days are gone.”


But Hamtramck’s Muslim population is hardly a monolith — the city is about 23 percent Arabic,
19 percent Bangladeshi and 7 percent Bosnian. The predominantly Muslim groups don’t intermingle much because of language differences, according to Thaddeus Radzilowski of the Piast Institute, a census information center.


University of Michigan at Dearborn professor Sally Howell, who has written a book on Michigan and U.S. Muslims, said that although some outsiders have equated the election results with “a sharia takeover,” that is not a fear she hears expressed by Hamtramck’s non-Muslims.

It all boils down to “a fear that this city council won’t represent the community,” Howell said. Her own sense, she said, is that it will.


Just some key quotes that I found interesting.
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Postby bigglesworth » Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:03 pm UTC

This fits the humorous news items category, because it's about Muslims in a town called ham-trunk.
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Hamburg has muslims too.

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KnightExemplar wrote:“The Polish people think we were invading them,” said Masud Khan, one of the mosque’s leaders, recalling that time in an interview earlier this month. “We were a big threat to their religion and culture. Now their days are gone.”


Lol, that does not sound like a terribly good way to phrase it to make it sound like NOT an invasion.

In fairness, I can see legitimate beefs with sound for five times a day if you're by a mosque. And blue laws being added for alcohol is kinda ehhh. The US still hasn't gotten over all of our own crap in this regard. So, I see that as kind of a step back.

But on the flip side, the Detroit area was already kind of horrible. An infusion of folks probably beats the shit out of any alternative.

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Postby Zamfir » Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:59 pm UTC


Lol, that does not sound like a terribly good way to phrase it to make it sound like NOT an invasion.

I am sure he's paraphrasing what some polish people say "We're invading them. We're a big threat to their religion. Their days are gone. "

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Postby CorruptUser » Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:37 pm UTC

Why not just have a smartphone app that buzzes for the call to prayer, so it's a phone call to prayer, and no one else has to hear it?

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CorruptUser wrote:Why not just have a smartphone app that buzzes for the call to prayer, so it's a phone call to prayer, and no one else has to hear it?

It's still considered a luxury to have a phone? Tradition? Why do people still carry the bible, constitution, or go to church anymore?

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sardia wrote:
CorruptUser wrote:Why not just have a smartphone app that buzzes for the call to prayer, so it's a phone call to prayer, and no one else has to hear it?

It's still considered a luxury to have a phone? Tradition? Why do people still carry the bible, constitution, or go to church anymore?

Keyword, carry, go.

Granted, the Christians are being slightly hypocritical what with the way church bells usually go off.
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KrytenKoro wrote:
sardia wrote:
CorruptUser wrote:Why not just have a smartphone app that buzzes for the call to prayer, so it's a phone call to prayer, and no one else has to hear it?

It's still considered a luxury to have a phone? Tradition? Why do people still carry the bible, constitution, or go to church anymore?

Keyword, carry, go.

Granted, the Christians are being slightly hypocritical what with the way church bells usually go off.


*shrug* I'm an atheist. I have absolutely no qualms about raising one middle finger towards the mosque and the other towards the local papists.

Way I see it, if *I* can't make a similar volume noise five times a day, they shouldn't either. And if I can't set rules banning certain businesses within 500 yards of me, they shouldn't either.


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Tyndmyr wrote:
KrytenKoro wrote:
sardia wrote:
CorruptUser wrote:Why not just have a smartphone app that buzzes for the call to prayer, so it's a phone call to prayer, and no one else has to hear it?

It's still considered a luxury to have a phone? Tradition? Why do people still carry the bible, constitution, or go to church anymore?

Keyword, carry, go.

Granted, the Christians are being slightly hypocritical what with the way church bells usually go off.


*shrug* I'm an atheist. I have absolutely no qualms about raising one middle finger towards the mosque and the other towards the local papists.

Way I see it, if *I* can't make a similar volume noise five times a day, they shouldn't either. And if I can't set rules banning certain businesses within 500 yards of me, they shouldn't either.

Sure sure sure. I agree with CU here, just pointing out that if they tried to use that argument to kill off the call to prayer, they should silence those bells too.
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Also a jetty on the coast of Croatia. Intentionally. What an unholy racket.

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Postby Angua » Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:42 am UTC


Dude, it's in Manchester. I know England is a lot smaller than Canada, but we do have other cities than London!
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Postby Echo244 » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:08 am UTC

Angua wrote:

Dude, it's in Manchester. I know England is a lot smaller than Canada, but we do have other cities than London!


We do, but London hosts much of the media and is so terribly good at self-promotion that few other cities get much of a mention.

Anyway. I love that noise, from watching a 37-second video and not having to live with it. It seems to give the place a sense of atmosphere.

Then again, I'm the sort of woman who's kicking herself that she didn't rush to London for a go on the Millenium Bridge *before* they put in the shock absorbers to deal with the resonance, so I'm hardly a good judge...
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Postby bigglesworth » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:11 am UTC

Angua wrote:

Dude, it's in Manchester. I know England is a lot smaller than Canada, but we do have other cities than London!
It has a football team and everything.
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Postby Carlington » Wed Dec 02, 2015 10:21 am UTC

At least two, doesn't it?
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Postby pkcommando » Wed Dec 02, 2015 12:50 pm UTC

Angua wrote:

Dude, it's in Manchester. I know England is a lot smaller than Canada, but we do have other cities than London!

Doctor Who says otherwise.

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Postby Zamfir » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:21 pm UTC

pkcommando wrote:Doctor Who says otherwise

That's mostly Cardiff, because the series is made by BBC Wales. They call it London to suit the export market.

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Postby HES » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:31 pm UTC

Zamfir wrote:That's mostly Cardiff, because the series is made by BBC Wales. They call it London to suit the export market.

Which is why Torchwood was based in Cardiff.

Anyway, there was that one episode up north somewhere. Yorkshire perhaps?
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Postby Lazar » Wed Dec 02, 2015 2:32 pm UTC

A Turkish doctor faces jail for posting a Facebook meme comparing Erdoğan to Gollum. Imagine if all countries made it a crime to insult public officials?
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Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Wed Dec 02, 2015 4:19 pm UTC

pkcommando wrote:
Angua wrote:

Dude, it's in Manchester. I know England is a lot smaller than Canada, but we do have other cities than London!

Doctor Who says otherwise.

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Postby chris857 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:51 pm UTC

bigglesworth wrote:This fits the humorous news items category, because it's about Muslims in a town called ham-trunk.


It's pronounced ham-tram-ick.

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Postby Shivahn » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:36 pm UTC

Man arrested for trying to snort cocaine at a traffic stop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhoVWbjoJUo

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Postby Coyne » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:51 am UTC

Shivahn wrote:Man arrested for trying to snort cocaine at a traffic stop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhoVWbjoJUo


The only way it could get worse?

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Driver: Sure, it's great stuff! Want some? I got a key here and I'll share.
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Postby Mighty Jalapeno » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:58 am UTC

Shivahn wrote:Man arrested for trying to snort cocaine at a traffic stop:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhoVWbjoJUo

He simply misinterpreted a traffic sign.

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Postby Yablo » Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:47 pm UTC

That Wu-Tang Clan - Martin Shkreli $2m album deal has an amazing caveat

I want to live in a world where this is true.

‘The buying party also agrees that at any time during the stipulated 88 year period, the seller may legally plan and attempt to execute one (1) heist or caper to steal back Once Upon A Time In Shaolin, which, if successful, would return all ownership rights to the seller.’

Then comes the best bit:

‘Said heist or caper can only be undertaken by currently active members of the Wu-Tang Clan and/or actor Bill Murray, with no legal repercussions.’
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