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Postby Sizik » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:38 pm UTC

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Postby pseudoidiot » Thu Dec 18, 2014 2:48 pm UTC

Bonus points if they only charged people a buck oh five for tickets.
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How apt. Its the movie about a bunch of pussies preventing the dicks from fucking an asshole.
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Matt Damon!!!

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pseudoidiot wrote:Bonus points if they only charged people a buck oh five for tickets.

I don't get it. Halp plz.

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Postby CorruptUser » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:25 pm UTC

One of the songs in the movie was "Freedom isn't free; it costs a buck oh five!", as a parody of all those other freedom ain't free country songs.

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/201 ... erica.html

Paramount bans showing of Team America. What the hell is happening? Since when is North Korea taken seriously?
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Postby Djehutynakht » Fri Dec 19, 2014 1:51 am UTC

Zarq wrote:http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2014/12/18/paramount-bans-showing-team-america.html

Paramount bans showing of Team America. What the hell is happening? Since when is North Korea taken seriously?



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Postby addams » Fri Dec 19, 2014 2:36 am UTC


Fuck Yeah!
Put The F back in Freedom.
Eedom was so dumb.

The Interview:
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It does look funny.
Why did they need to Kill a Korean Guy?

They could have as much fun with a European Leader.
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Those delicate moments when a Bromance become a Romance and more.

Team America?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPBX47zSktc

Gross. Not anywhere near 144.
Why do the people in Korea want a dumb American movie?

In all of Asia, are the people so oppressed they can't make movies of their own?
If the Americans don't send them movies, will they have to go back to Kabuki Theater?

That would be a tough call for me.
To travel to sit in a room full of strangers, (some stranger than others).
And, watch Kabuki Theater or Team America, World Police.

If I were allowed to choose,
Americans would be learning the fine art of Kabuki.
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Postby sardia » Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:43 am UTC

Zarq wrote:


http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/201 ... erica.html
Movie corps are a notorious ly conservative group. Its why they are so biased towards white films actors and sequels. They want guarantee d money over taking risk.
Paramount bans showing of Team America. What the hell is happening? Since when is North Korea taken seriously?

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Postby Thesh » Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:52 am UTC

Zarq wrote:


http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/201 ... erica.html

Paramount bans showing of Team America. What the hell is happening? Since when is North Korea taken seriously?

Most likely the reports of the hackers being North Korean are real, and not released is information that is damning to Sony Pictures, and Paramount is probably acting on behalf of Sony Pictures (maybe paid off?).
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Postby HungryHobo » Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:51 am UTC

Thesh wrote:Most likely the reports of the hackers being North Korean are real, and not released is information that is damning to Sony Pictures, and Paramount is probably acting on behalf of Sony Pictures (maybe paid off?).


Well long story short some of the execs got high on "blach", later began sucking on each other's "jagons" and sticking their fingers in each other's "thrushers" and someone from NK got a photo of it.
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Postby jestingrabbit » Fri Dec 19, 2014 10:54 am UTC

Or the people who run multinational media companies are physical cowards.
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Postby Chen » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:56 pm UTC

Presumably Paramount feels the risk of them getting hacked due to Team America, is too high compared to the value of the statement that is being made by showing it instead. Seems like a sound business decision to me. I can't imagine they'd be making anything noticeable in terms of revenue by the Team America showings.

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Postby CorruptUser » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:58 pm UTC

It's a shame too because it's getting a metric fuckton of free publicity.

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Postby Chen » Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:18 pm UTC

Even then. A weekend or even a week or two of mediocre showings is probably not going to do squat for their bottom line. Whereas a hack similar to the Sony one could have significant repercussions, especially if they have any embarrassing skeletons in their closet. This way they still make the news and their risk of getting hit by these people is a fair bit less I'd imagine.

I do wonder by just delaying this movie for a bit, if they're actually going to make more money off it than before. All told, I can't imagine they were planning on this being a blockbuster or anything. It was probably going to be one of those bad comedy movies that stays in theatres a couple weeks and then disappears. This whole controversy though has probably raised more awareness of the movie and will probably lead to much high numbers when its finally released, than if they had just released it now without a hitch.

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Postby poochyena » Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:47 pm UTC

I just kinda want to point out a fun fact
Sony is actually worth more than the entire country of North Korea.
I just find that amusing.

But on that.... how do you punish North Korea? travel bans, import/export bans, etc. Stuff we do with other countries we can't exactly do with NK...

You guys probably seen this by now, but
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Maybe a fundraiser Humble Bundle style where you can send money to charities and the studio, and split it how ever much you want.

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Postby addams » Fri Dec 19, 2014 6:00 pm UTC

poochyena wrote:I just kinda want to point out a fun fact
Sony is actually worth more than the entire country of North Korea.
I just find that amusing.

Is that a Fact?

It seems Plausible, to me.
When worth needs exponents, I get a bit lost.

Sony is worth 35X10 to the 27th
N.K. is worth 18X10 to the 35th.

Call a Chemist!

EDIT:
Now; I want to know.
Can a US company Buy North Korea?
...And; Give it to South Korea for Christmas!

That's like giving someone a Horse for Christmas.
What a Great Idea!

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Postby poochyena » Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:58 am UTC

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/17/mi ... -pool-toy/

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A Kansas City school took away the cane of a blind 8-year-old boy Monday and replaced it with a pool noodle as punishment for hitting a classmate, Fox4KC.com reported.

Dakota Nafzinger, who was born with bilateral anopthalmia, which left him without eyes, had the cane confiscated after a bus driver claimed he hit another student with one the school had furnished, according to the channel. In its place, the Gracemor Elementary School student was given the bent, green pool noodle because, according to a North Kansas City School District spokeswoman, he fidgets and needs something to hold.

"They said they were going to give me this for the next two weeks," Dakota said.

The boy's father, Donald Nafzinger, said his son lifts the cane at times, but the bus driver thought he was using it to be violent. Nafzinger believes the school is using the pool toy to humiliate his son.

His mother, Rachel, said it is unfair that his punishment involves something that he needs to get around. The report pointed out that he attended his sister's concert with the noodle.

"It's a lot harder with this," the boy told the station. "Can't feel things."

Some people who saw the news broadcast offered to buy the boy a white cane of his own.

The school district said Wednesday in a statement that it reviewed the situation and regrets that "a mistake was made in making sure the student was in possession of his cane when he boarded the bus Monday evening."

The district said it apologized to the family and is working to rectify the situation.

"When we were made aware of the mistake, corrections were made," the statement said.


Really, what?

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Postby CorruptUser » Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:16 am UTC

While most don't really think of disabled people as being jerks, just because someone is blind doesn't mean they are incapable of malice. Some of them are assholes. Just like everyone else.

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Postby addams » Sat Dec 20, 2014 2:51 am UTC

CorruptUser wrote:While most don't really think of disabled people as being jerks, just because someone is blind doesn't mean they are incapable of malice. Some of them are assholes. Just like everyone else.

Yes. That's true.
But; Ya' gotta admit; A blind kid that is armed with a white cane is still at a disadvantage when sparing with an able bodied sighted person.
We must be like a bunch of fucking pinitas to him.

There are stories of Blind Monks that could kick a sighted man's ass.
Those stories served the purpose of keeping AssHoles away from Blind Monks.
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Postby jestingrabbit » Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:16 am UTC

CorruptUser wrote:While most don't really think of disabled people as being jerks, just because someone is blind doesn't mean they are incapable of malice. Some of them are assholes. Just like everyone else.


But why make punishments that are about the kids blindness? Why not punish him the way everyone else would be punished?
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jestingrabbit wrote:But why make punishments that are about the kids blindness? Why not punish him the way everyone else would be punished?


If another kid was being a dick and hitting kids with a hard, heavy stick you'd just take it away.

He needs to be able to feel the ground in front of him with something so replacing it with something that he can still use as a cane but can't hurt the other kids with for a few days seems quite suitable.

I'm with CorruptUser on this one.
If you watch them my nephew *earns* the thumps from his little brother. just assuming that the poor little disabled kid is an angel is stupid.
disabled or not kids are routinely dicks to each other and it doesn't matter which would win in an actual head to head fight.
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Postby jestingrabbit » Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:35 am UTC

HungryHobo wrote:If you watch them my nephew *earns* the thumps from his little brother. just assuming that the poor little disabled kid is an angel is stupid.


But assuming he's definitely in the wrong is perfect sense? The canes blind folk have are not heavy, they're very light, meant to be held hovering a few millimeters above the ground for hours on end. They're not practical weapons in the least.

And again, making his punishment about his disability is a dick move.
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Postby Carlington » Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:38 am UTC

I think the logic behind it would've been less "You're blind, so having no cane will suck for you" and more "You're hitting people with this thing, so we'll take the thing away so you can't anymore".
I mean, that's not even close to justification in my opinion, I think this is terrible, but if you sat me down and asked me to come up with the most believable line of reasoning that could lead an adult to take away a blind child's cane, this would be what I gave you.
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Postby Angua » Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:49 am UTC

Also, a noodle doesn't do the function of the cane as as the child pointed out, you can't feel anything. Anything soft is going to, by its very nature, not be useful in feeling obstacles.
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CorruptUser wrote:While most don't really think of disabled people as being jerks, just because someone is blind doesn't mean they are incapable of malice. Some of them are assholes. Just like everyone else.


The issue isn't "How could they punish a blind kid" its "How could you take away the only kid's only ability to see?"

The kid should be punished, but not by taking away his cane.

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Postby HungryHobo » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:31 pm UTC

jestingrabbit wrote:But assuming he's definitely in the wrong is perfect sense?


When it's a matter of minor childish behaviour from a child, yes, I'll tend to side against the people oozing fake-concern and outrage and assume that the person saying that a child acted in a way that children routinely do was being reasonable honest.

jestingrabbit wrote:They're not practical weapons in the least.


Right, now I know you're arguing from near total ignorance.

Some can be quite heavy, some even have small weights on the end and can hurt like fuck.

You wouldn't want to go into battle with one but you can make someone feel quite a lot of pain with one swung hard.

you can't feel anything


You absolutely can, a new one is quite stiff, it's just a lot less sensitive than a really solid cane.

poochyena wrote:The issue isn't "How could they punish a blind kid" its "How could you take away the only kid's only ability to see?"


I'm sure he'll get it back shortly and will be less likely to hit other kids with it again.

If he was a kid in a wheelchair ramming into other kids and they made him sit in time out in the corner for a little while with the brakes on his chair as punishment then that would be utterly reasonable as well, but of course the outrage junkies would come back with something like "OH MY GOD! They took away his ability to move!!!! THAT'S MAKING IT ABOUT HIS DISABILITY!!!"

exactly as you would with *any other child* if the kid uses X to his someone, you take it away for a little while.
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Postby Adacore » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:57 pm UTC

If the random comment I saw on the reddit thread about this was accurate, the cane was supplied by the school in the first place, after the parents refused to give the kid one. He then started beating other kids with it, so the school took it away again, but gave him a pool noodle instead. I'm not sure if I agree with the decision, but it's still more than giving him nothing, which is what he had before, and if he's refusing to stop hitting other kids with a cane, you can't exactly let him keep on doing it.

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Adacore wrote:If the random comment I saw on the reddit thread about this was accurate, the cane was supplied by the school in the first place, after the parents refused to give the kid one. He then started beating other kids with it, so the school took it away again, but gave him a pool noodle instead. I'm not sure if I agree with the decision, but it's still more than giving him nothing, which is what he had before, and if he's refusing to stop hitting other kids with a cane, you can't exactly let him keep on doing it.

yeah.
That story has Problems.
Or; The people of the US have Problems.

How in the world can a blind child get to be eight and not have a cane and special instruction?
Yes. A blind child can walk around in his own home without a cane.

But to leave the house he needs a seeing eye brother or a cane.
Maybe, he was being a jerk.

Being the only blind person must Suck!
Hiting someone, "Just Because!" Might be more reasonable than it seems at first blush.

Has he learned Braile?
Is he going to school with sighted students as the Only Blind Guy?

That has Got To Suck!
He is only eight.

What a crazy story.
A blind child can and should be Main Streamed.
But; A little Fringe Education should be Required.

It's a stupid story.
How can that be True?

Who is Dropping the Ball?
Is he learning braille?

From who?
A sighted teacher that is learning it with him?

Who makes this stuff up?
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Postby elasto » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:07 am UTC

I somewhat agree with HungryHobo but I'd put a different slant on it.

This kid probably was hitting other kids with it but that leaves two possibilities:

(1) The blind kid is an asshole. Which is possible. Bit early for teenage rebellion hormones to be kicking in but could just be lack of impulse control then.
(2) The other kids are bullying him. Which is highly likely. Kids love to bully the weak and the different.

Schools do seem to have a record of underreacting to verbal bullying and overreacting to physical acts - even if the physical reaction was simply a one-off response to endless bullying.

If it's situation (1) then simply isolating the kid and giving him one-to-one therapy would be more humane and effective. But that costs time and money.
If it's situation (2) then clamping down on the bullying would be more humane and effective. But that costs time and money.

Seems to me like the school took the easiest, cheapest option to shut down the bad situation of this kid hitting other kids. But him hitting is merely a symptom of something; Let's hope they are also treating the cause.

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Postby Carlington » Mon Dec 22, 2014 2:49 am UTC

HungryHobo wrote:
you can't feel anything


You absolutely can, a new one is quite stiff, it's just a lot less sensitive than a really solid cane.
I'd be very interested to hear how you figured this out. If you yourself are blind then I apologise for the assumption that you don't know, but even then it seems unlikely that you would have gone out of your way to try using a pool noodle as a cane to be able to give a definitive answer on this.

Adacore wrote:If the random comment I saw on the reddit thread about this was accurate, the cane was supplied by the school in the first place, after the parents refused to give the kid one. He then started beating other kids with it, so the school took it away again, but gave him a pool noodle instead. I'm not sure if I agree with the decision, but it's still more than giving him nothing, which is what he had before, and if he's refusing to stop hitting other kids with a cane, you can't exactly let him keep on doing it.
Emphasis mine, because I find this point concerning. I don't know exactly how much you would expect to pay for a good quality cane, but a brief look at the internet suggests that a fibreglass, child-sized one is less than fifty dollars. If that expense is beyond the means of the parents then fair enough, but otherwise I really don't see why the parents wouldn't have given the kid his own cane, in which case the school doesn't have the argument that it's a misuse of school equipment and then has even less 'justification' for confiscating it for two weeks in the first place.
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Postby addams » Mon Dec 22, 2014 4:02 am UTC

My concern is that the child is too young to be Main Streamed.
Some classes with sighted people is Fine. Not All Classes!

A person must learn how to use a cane.
It is an additional skill.

And; Very frustrating for a child.
Braille takes skill, too.

Gee. Maybe the blind community will step in and help The Child.
How will they ever know? Will they read it on The Internet?
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Postby Diadem » Mon Dec 22, 2014 10:51 am UTC

Carlington wrote:
HungryHobo wrote:
you can't feel anything


You absolutely can, a new one is quite stiff, it's just a lot less sensitive than a really solid cane.
I'd be very interested to hear how you figured this out. If you yourself are blind then I apologise for the assumption that you don't know, but even then it seems unlikely that you would have gone out of your way to try using a pool noodle as a cane to be able to give a definitive answer on this.

Adacore wrote:If the random comment I saw on the reddit thread about this was accurate, the cane was supplied by the school in the first place, after the parents refused to give the kid one. He then started beating other kids with it, so the school took it away again, but gave him a pool noodle instead. I'm not sure if I agree with the decision, but it's still more than giving him nothing, which is what he had before, and if he's refusing to stop hitting other kids with a cane, you can't exactly let him keep on doing it.
Emphasis mine, because I find this point concerning. I don't know exactly how much you would expect to pay for a good quality cane, but a brief look at the internet suggests that a fibreglass, child-sized one is less than fifty dollars. If that expense is beyond the means of the parents then fair enough.

Wait, wait? How would that be "fair enough"? How is it in any sense of the world fair that a blind child in one of the richest countries of the world wouldn't be able to afford a cane?

Maybe I'm naive. I know many people in the US don't have health insurance, but I always assumed there'd be special provisions for uninsured children? Even the right wing nut jobs can't claim that it's a child's fault that the parents are uninsured, right?
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Postby Carlington » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:17 am UTC

No, I mean if it's beyond the means of the parents then fair enough they shouldn't spend money they don't have to buy it - definitely not fair enough that the kid just goes without. That wasn't intended as a statement about the fairness of the healthcare system at large, just that if the parents are refusing even though they can afford it then they're being dicks, but if they honestly can't afford it then I can't fault them personally on that - it's a failing of the system.
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Postby addams » Mon Dec 22, 2014 11:27 am UTC

Carlington wrote:No, I mean if it's beyond the means of the parents then fair enough they shouldn't spend money they don't have to buy it - definitely not fair enough that the kid just goes without. That wasn't intended as a statement about the fairness of the healthcare system at large, just that if the parents are refusing even though they can afford it then they're being dicks, but if they honestly can't afford it then I can't fault them personally on that - it's a failing of the system.

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Postby SecondTalon » Mon Dec 22, 2014 3:11 pm UTC

Diadem wrote:Maybe I'm naive. I know many people in the US don't have health insurance, but I always assumed there'd be special provisions for uninsured children? Even the right wing nut jobs can't claim that it's a child's fault that the parents are uninsured, right?

Hahahahahahahahahahahhahhahaha

Oh you. Of course it's their fault. If they wated to have fancy blind-kid canes, they would just work hard and stop being poor, you silly goose.
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Postby morriswalters » Mon Dec 22, 2014 5:22 pm UTC

The school was stupid. The parents are morons. Search keyword "blind cane" led to this. National Federation of the Blind.
We believe that independence and freedom to travel are so important to the quality of life of blind people that every blind person should have a cane, regardless of ability to pay.

We are giving, free of charge to the user, rigid fiberglass canes. Please see the online application or download the paper application to view available cane sizes.
A little further looking led to starter canes for children for 22 dollars. And the school had to cough it up?
Diadem wrote:Maybe I'm naive. I know many people in the US don't have health insurance, but I always assumed there'd be special provisions for uninsured children? Even the right wing nut jobs can't claim that it's a child's fault that the parents are uninsured, right?
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Postby DSenette » Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:01 pm UTC

take a step back and remember that the entire line of questioning regarding the affordability/availability of the cane the kid had is reliant on a statement that started with "if the random comment I saw on the reddit thread". if anyone could provide evidence that the parents failed to supply the cane then this stuff would make sense.

even then....EVEN IF the school had supplied the cane...you can't take a cane from a blind kid and replace it with anything that is not a cane. it's not like just putting a stick in the hands of a blind person means that they can get around every obstacle by default...you actually have to learn to "read" a cane to know how to traverse the various substances and obstacles we all face on a day to day basis. this relies heavily on how the device you're using to feel around actually responds to things, how the tip interacts with the ground or other objects, how the shaft itself transmits the impacts with objects, etc...
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