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Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Postby Zohar » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:01 pm UTC

I don't get it either. What are you ridiculing here? Do you find the fight against right extremism amusing?
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Postby Gwydion » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:09 pm UTC

jewish_scientist wrote:Violence erupts at anti-white nationalist rally in Portland
+3 Nerd points to first person to explain why this is funny.

It’s the hyphen placement isn’t it

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Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Postby orthogon » Fri Oct 13, 2017 3:24 pm UTC

Gwydion wrote:
jewish_scientist wrote:Violence erupts at anti-white nationalist rally in Portland
+3 Nerd points to first person to explain why this is funny.

It’s the hyphen placement isn’t it

I think so, but the whole article is pretty unclear. The picture caption definitely implies that two different anti-(white nationalist) groups were fighting each other, but the article itself fails to get that across. Honestly, it's not clear what happened.

ETA: ignore that; there's more article than I saw originally. The site is so overloaded with clickbait ads and crap that it hadn't actually loaded properly. Second time I went there it crashed my browser.
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Postby ivnja » Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:47 pm UTC

jewish_scientist wrote:anti-white nationalist rally

I've never been satisfied with the way the English language handles prefixes before phrases. "White nationalist" is, despite being two words, a single inseparable thing. Is an anti-white nationalist rally a rally against white nationalists, or a rally put on by a coalition of folks who want a separate nation without any white people? I know it's the former in this case because I know the context, but it's linguistically unclear and awkward to parse.
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Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Postby jewish_scientist » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:12 pm UTC

Gwydion wrote:
jewish_scientist wrote:Violence erupts at anti-white nationalist rally in Portland
+3 Nerd points to first person to explain why this is funny.

It’s the hyphen placement isn’t it

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ivnja wrote:I've never been satisfied with the way the English language handles prefixes before phrases.

Me neither. Another problem his how you do possessives when a name ends in an 's'.

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Postby addams » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:21 pm UTC

jewish_scientist wrote:Me neither. Another problem is how you do possessives when a name ends in an 's'.
By sticking the apostrophe at the End of the word.
It is stupid and confusing.
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Postby Zamfir » Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:25 pm UTC

Another problem his how you do possessives when a name ends in an 's'.

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Postby Soupspoon » Fri Oct 13, 2017 9:31 pm UTC

With the historical exception of biblical names ("Jesus' apostles", "Moses' stone tablets"), which always seems to be a "it was written in a bible like that, and we can't say that a bible was wrong" to me, an s-ending name is 's-ed as per anything else singular, when it is singular. "Travis's guitar", "Moss's computer" ("our Mexican gardener has his own rake, but Jesus's rake is always kept in our outhouse").

Pluralised names-with-an-s-ending-anyway are tricky, only because the pronunciation is awkward. "The Roberts' house is across the street" might get pronounced "The Robertsezes…", for the house of Mr Roberts and Mrs Roberts, the house of the "Roberts(ez)" (as possibly pronounced as the plural) is clearly then owned... As written, though, the s-apostrophe above should suffice (to distinguish from the bike of their son, Robert Roberts, which is Robert's bike or Roberts's bike, according to how one contextually refers to the youth (familiarity of the first name, formality of the surname).

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Postby Zamfir » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:27 pm UTC

You have to admit, the 'of' construction is cleaner.

I personally can't tell when the 'of' construction is acceptable. English seems to favour the genitive here for - "the rake of Jesus is in the outhouse" feels slightly off?

Dutch has the same 2 constructions, plus a third option for names. You can say 'Mary her lamb' instead of "Mary's lamb". That's a nice solution for names that end in an s-sound.

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Postby Soupspoon » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:01 am UTC

It is said that "Paul, his book" became "Paul's book" by apostrophic contraction rules, by some. But I've seen enough direct contradictions to that also.

Blessed few enough (native Anglophone) people use apostrophes correctly, anyway. I don't care about the origin, I care more that the tried and tested rule(s) don't get overturned by ignorance (as opposed to innovative re-writing) of those rules. Dutch may use apostrophes for (some) plurals and omit apostrophes for (not all) possessives, as I understand it, but I decry English stylesheets that joyfully pluralise acronyms/initialisms or single characters with such a mark. "There are four 'i's and four 's's in 'Mississippi" is ok, as that's single quotes (for all intents and purposes, even if identical in ASCII or Unicode to apostrophes), but "…i's and… s's…" or1 "…I's and… S's…" cut me to the quick. And for no good reason. Many DVDs can be sold with far less need for apostrophes, and there's no excuse for proper words that are pluralised!

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Postby Jumble » Sun Oct 15, 2017 6:32 pm UTC

In other news (not wanting to interrupt the grammar debate or anything), those in the UK need not worry about food shortages or rising food prices post Brexit because, in the event that we crash out of Brexit with fuck all 'We'll just grow more food!'. Simples!

Obviously Chris Grayling knows all about this being, erm, transport secretary and everything. In other, other news, farm profits to halve if we crash out of Brexit.

To quote Tyrion Lannister, 'We're fucked'.
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Postby CorruptUser » Sun Oct 15, 2017 7:13 pm UTC

On the plus side, a total collapse would do wonders for reducing the obesity rate in britain.

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Postby sardia » Sun Oct 15, 2017 8:58 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:On the plus side, a total collapse would do wonders for reducing the obesity rate in britain.

And the 2008 financial crisis erased decades of income inequality. I don't get why the other countries aren't thanking the fat cats at Wal Street for their good deed. They accomplished more in a year than progressives have in decades.

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Postby CorruptUser » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:03 pm UTC

sardia wrote:
CorruptUser wrote:On the plus side, a total collapse would do wonders for reducing the obesity rate in britain.

And the 2008 financial crisis erased decades of income inequality. I don't get why the other countries aren't thanking the fat cats at Wal Street for their good deed. They accomplished more in a year than progressives have in decades.


Actually the financial crises affected the middle and bottom more than the top.

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Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Postby Sizik » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:07 am UTC

I think this wins the prize for most anti-conservative headline:
U.S. judge orders Trump administration to allow abortion for undocumented teen.
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Postby CorruptUser » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:34 pm UTC

Sizik wrote:I think this wins the prize for most anti-conservative headline:
U.S. judge orders Trump administration to allow abortion for undocumented teen.


Not really, many conservatives will allow abortions for non-whites. Ever been to the Deep South? The white women have sex with black guys during their rebellious teenage and early adult years but they get abortions if something happens.

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Postby jewish_scientist » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:43 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:
Sizik wrote:I think this wins the prize for most anti-conservative headline:
U.S. judge orders Trump administration to allow abortion for undocumented teen.


Not really, many conservatives will allow abortions for non-whites. Ever been to the Deep South? The white women have sex with black guys during their rebellious teenage and early adult years but they get abortions if something happens.

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Postby Soupspoon » Thu Oct 19, 2017 12:49 pm UTC

I find it 'funny', FCVO, that (so far as I can work out) the potential future child would likely be a US Citizen by birth, if it all drags out long enough to be irrevocably moot, bypassing the whole troublesome Dreamer status. And then could even become POTUS by 2060 or so (if there's still a US to be PO).

But then I've probably skewed in my head an already pretty skewey story. I'm not sure it's actually quite so humorous when viewed from further afield, for various different reasons.

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Re: In other news... (humorous news items)

Postby CorruptUser » Thu Oct 19, 2017 1:21 pm UTC

I lived in Kentucky and have had friends from the Deep South (Arkansas) who saw this with their own eyes?

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Postby ObsessoMom » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:07 pm UTC

CorruptUser wrote:I lived in Kentucky and have had friends from the Deep South (Arkansas) who saw this with their own eyes?


Even your friends were rebellious young white women, black guys, abortion providers, and/or voyeurs of a really complicated sexual fetish (which is the only way that they could have seen this with their own eyes), I find it hard to believe that this behavior is indicative of How Southerners (in General) Comport Themselves.

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Postby CorruptUser » Thu Oct 19, 2017 10:48 pm UTC

In retrospect, "rebellious" is a terrible choice of words. "Experimenting" would be better, but in a negative connotation. And no, not all women, but a fuckton of them. It's basically the female version of this asshole.

But anyhoo, Martin Shkreli's bail still held by government in spite of him going to prison. Muwahahaa.

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Postby morriswalters » Fri Oct 20, 2017 2:36 am UTC

In the state of Kentucky, at this moment, there is exactly one abortion clinic, and it's license is under attack. All those wanton Kentucky women with shamed families must be going somewhere else. Maybe Arkansas.

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Postby orthogon » Wed Nov 01, 2017 6:09 pm UTC

Attractive 21 year-old woman posts naked photos to "prove that nudity isn't sexual".

NSFW, or alternatively, SFW, depending what you think of her "proof". I'm not convinced, personally, that it's QED, but your mileage will obviously vary.

By the way, this is from the website that used to be one of the UK's few quality newspapers, so it must be OK to share it here.
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Postby Sizik » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:15 pm UTC

gmalivuk wrote:
King Author wrote:If space (rather, distance) is an illusion, it'd be possible for one meta-me to experience both body's sensory inputs.
Yes. And if wishes were horses, wishing wells would fill up very quickly with drowned horses.

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Postby CorruptUser » Wed Nov 01, 2017 8:29 pm UTC

Prolific poster pencils profuse particularization purporting pizza profits.

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Postby sardia » Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:34 pm UTC


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Postby jewish_scientist » Thu Nov 02, 2017 1:43 pm UTC


I just want to point out that the pictures feature a thin white girl with long blond hair a.k.a. society's impractical ideal of beauty that causes thousands of young girls to starve themselves and become bulimic.

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Postby Chen » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:20 pm UTC

orthogon wrote:Attractive 21 year-old woman posts naked photos to "prove that nudity isn't sexual".

NSFW, or alternatively, SFW, depending what you think of her "proof". I'm not convinced, personally, that it's QED, but your mileage will obviously vary.

By the way, this is from the website that used to be one of the UK's few quality newspapers, so it must be OK to share it here.


At best it proves nudity isn't ALWAYS sexual.

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Postby orthogon » Thu Nov 02, 2017 5:16 pm UTC

Chen wrote:
orthogon wrote:Attractive 21 year-old woman posts naked photos to "prove that nudity isn't sexual".

NSFW, or alternatively, SFW, depending what you think of her "proof". I'm not convinced, personally, that it's QED, but your mileage will obviously vary.

By the way, this is from the website that used to be one of the UK's few quality newspapers, so it must be OK to share it here.


At best it proves nudity isn't ALWAYS sexual.

That is so xkcd. Why discuss gender issues when there's a point of formal logic at stake? :P
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Postby CorruptUser » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:45 pm UTC

jewish_scientist wrote:

I just want to point out that the pictures feature a thin white girl with long blond hair a.k.a. society's impractical ideal of beauty that causes thousands of young girls to starve themselves and become bulimic.


She looks like she has a normal, healthy weight to me.

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Postby Sableagle » Thu Nov 02, 2017 6:49 pm UTC

jewish_scientist wrote:

I just want to point out that the pictures feature a thin white girl with long blond hair ...
... and a face like a horse. :P

... a.k.a. society's impractical ideal of beauty that causes thousands of young girls to starve themselves and become bulimic.
I wouldn't describe her as unhealthily skinny.

Drawn and so-low-res-I'm-not-sure-but-maybe-photographic charts behind spoiler:
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I'd guess our Dutch woman is in the low 20s there, which is a perfectly reasonable BMI to have and a perfectly reasonable BMI to aspire to have.

Photographic comparison thing behind spoiler:
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By the chest, shoulder and cheek, I think the woman in the nude pictures is built more like the size 12 in that set of photographs (i.e. the one society found most attractive) than like any of the skinnier ones, and I don't think a Dutch woman should have to have BMI above the 40th percentile for US women her age to be allowed to be happy with the way she looks naked.

Personally, I find darker hair more attractive. Also dimples, freckles, ("ginger") red hair, (dark) red hair, red hair with freckles, arse-kickin', brave, tough ladies, tough redheads, very dark brown hair and freckles, these eyes, this smile, a woman who can, literally, pull her own weight, a woman with enough sense to wear full protective gear (and good taste in bikes) and this moment when the workers found out they were having a revolution, hammer and sickle included, and no slave-driving capitalist demon was going to stop them. Also smiles. Sincere smiles growing stronger and getting away from their owners, rather than just-for-the-camera smiles. Yeah, I'm a freak and a pervert, I know. I've got this huge consent fetish as well ...
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Postby commodorejohn » Thu Nov 02, 2017 7:51 pm UTC

jewish_scientist wrote:I just want to point out that the pictures feature a thin white girl with long blond hair a.k.a. society's impractical ideal of beauty that causes thousands of young girls to starve themselves and become bulimic.

What a very strange thing to say. Is she wrong for being svelte and blond? Should she pack on a few pounds and dye her hair in deference to other people's issues with unrelated advertising/media-industry biases?
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Postby CorruptUser » Thu Nov 02, 2017 8:42 pm UTC

I think j_s is just, like, super jelly about how that woman only has, like, just one ass instead of two.

As for me, I personally have a tiny bit of an Amazon/giantess fetish, but it's difficult to date a woman taller than me because 1) most aren't and 2) the ones that are still insist on dating someone taller than themselves.

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Postby LaserGuy » Thu Nov 02, 2017 10:25 pm UTC

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Postby ObsessoMom » Sun Nov 05, 2017 5:59 pm UTC

This is the sort of protest I love. So clever!

Gerrymander 5k: run highlights absurdity of Republican redistricting
Event in Asheville, North Carolina saw runners zig-zag the boundaries of two districts that were redrawn in order to seize control of a liberal enclave

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Postby Liri » Sun Nov 05, 2017 6:04 pm UTC

ObsessoMom wrote:This is the sort of protest I love. So clever!

Gerrymander 5k: run highlights absurdity of Republican redistricting
Event in Asheville, North Carolina saw runners zig-zag the boundaries of two districts that were redrawn in order to seize control of a liberal enclave

Some good news! The districts (and their neighbors) that were determined to be gerrymandered on a racial basis are being redrawn by a court-appointed expert.

That's not going to fix the purely partisan ones though, but it's a start.
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Postby Liri » Tue Nov 07, 2017 1:07 pm UTC

I suppose this can go here - Rand Paul getting attacked by his neighbor over some sort of landscaping dispute.

Mr. Paul, 54, has long stood out in the well-to-do gated neighborhood south of Bowling Green, Ky., that he calls home. The senator grows pumpkins on his property, composts and has shown little interest for neighborhood regulations.

But the spectacle of the incident — one former doctor attacking another in broad daylight — was altogether different. Competing explanations of the origins of the drama cited stray yard clippings, newly planted saplings and unraked leaves.

On one hand, I'm all for composting, not raking leaves, and growing your own food, but it also strikes me as being contrarian for its own sake.
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Postby commodorejohn » Tue Nov 07, 2017 2:57 pm UTC

I've been wondering how the Paul thing could get any stranger. And...yuuuup.
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Postby sardia » Tue Nov 07, 2017 3:30 pm UTC

commodorejohn wrote:I've been wondering how the Paul thing could get any stranger. And...yuuuup.

I'm just glad it wasn't politically motivated to stop the tax vote.

I'm quoting you because your post was shorter and I hate how the forum keeps nesting quotes indefinitely.


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