Garm wrote:Well I wasn't able to watch the game so it's hard to pull subtlety out of post game reports. I've already discussed how the narrative would have been changed had Barca not had such a taste for the woodwork. Giving away 72% possession does not speak to a subtle strategy, however, so I'm going to stick to my line.
Fair enough. Messi hit the post once (on the penalty), the other time, Cech pushed it onto the post--credit where credit is due. Barca had only five shots on target. The subtlety was not in the strategy (at least not at its most basic form), it was in the execution. Drogba was playing RB, LB, CB, and CF at various times. We had no recognized center backs on the field. Seeing our fluid defense dismantle each of their attacks was astounding.
To Dream: Yes, let's ignore that most of the points we dropped were from draws, that we had an utterly clueless manager for half the season, and that we thrashed Spurs 5-1 at Wembley. Also, let's ignore that our aging side is now in two finals and Arsenal and Spurs have nothing to show for all of their, uh, dynamism.
sdkelso wrote:Clueless, the lot of you. As if they're not comparable? A stronger squad (or army) beaten by a weaker squad (or army) with superior tactics, leadership, and belief. Those are the qualities that made Helm's Deep a moving story.
Listen. Metaphors are houses. They need walls and a roof. You built the walls, but where is the roof? It's missing. And what happens to a house without a roof? That's right, the rain comes in.
So be more careful with your metaphors next time!
Um, a metaphor is one type of an analogy, and it was certainly not the type I was using. It wasn't a false analogy, either, as I've explained above. Also, your metaphors are considerably lacking. What roof exactly am I missing? What is normally analogous to a roof in an analogy? I shouldn't think that the two things compared must be similar in every way, otherwise they'd be, ya know, the same. The question is whether or not the two things compared are similar in important ways and dissimilar in negligible ways. You've quoted how I think that they're similar--in what ways are they different? People don't die? Well, if you read on, I explained how I was referring to a romantic concept of war (epitomized by Helm's Deep), which downplays or even eliminates the ugly, realistic side of war and emphasizes things like heroism and winning against all odds. No rain.
Funny how none of you who think that it is a false analogy can give me any concrete reasons why.