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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby Cathode Ray Sunshine » Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:00 pm UTC

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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby freezeblade » Fri Jun 13, 2014 9:35 pm UTC

I'm looking forward to Italy v England tomorrow. Heading to an english pub with a bunch of friends to people watch, drink and yell at TVs.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby PolakoVoador » Fri Jun 13, 2014 10:42 pm UTC

Man, spain was brutalized

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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby ahammel » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:27 pm UTC

PolakoVoador wrote:Man, spain was brutalized
I wonder if the weather in the second half threw them off.

You might say that the pain, for Spain, came mainly in the rain.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby Negated » Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:28 pm UTC

Genuinely great game up until Spain gave up.

I thoroughly enjoyed the demolition. Spain has won too many for too long that I longed for a team to come around and send them off a cliff faced down. But still, I feel sorry for Casillas. It was probably the most humiliating game of his life.

Perhaps it's time for De Gea to step into spotlight.

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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby Diadem » Sat Jun 14, 2014 12:36 am UTC

Awesome game. It was just awesome to watch that enfold.

I think The Netherlands were already better in the first half, though they still lacked finesse. Spain came ahead thanks to the referee, because that absolutely should not have been a penalty. Once the Dutch team started going Spain just completely collapsed though, to the point where they were very lucky to only have 5 goals against him. I did feel a bit bad for the Spanish keeper near the end. The despair on his face near the end was almost palpable. Not too bad though, we did did still need to take our revenge for the final 4 years ago.

I wonder if Spain can turn this around. Getting absolutely demolished like this is a huge blow to your team spirit, one that only the greatest teams can recover from. You don't win 3 major tournaments in a row without a great team though, so perhaps they can pull it together. They obviously still have the talent.

I also watched Chile - Australia. That definitely was a much worse performance from both teams. Chile in particular played terribly, even worse than Australia, they only won because they had a 12th player in the field.

When is the Fifa going to introduce video refereeing. I think we're 3/4 now for incorrect penalty decisions.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby Carlington » Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:26 am UTC

Chile dominated us in terms of possession, but definitely could have played a better game than they did. All things considered, Australia performed well in that match. At this point, our international presence in terms of football is...somewhat lacklustre, to say the least, and the past couple of World Cups for us have been about building respectability and earning our place. It's quite disappointing, as (failing an incredible upset) I don't see another opportunity for Australia to pick up a point anywhere, given the group we're in - but that's just the fault of our poor luck in the draw. It'd be a shame to leave in the group stages with no points, but there's always next time.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby ahammel » Sat Jun 14, 2014 9:08 pm UTC

Another upset! Well done Costa Rica. They were by far the better team. It'll be an uphill battle for Uruguay to make it out of the group stages now.

Good luck you English. I'm predicting a 2-2 draw.


EDIT: ah well. Score one for boring old Italy.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby leady » Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:08 pm UTC

I can take playing well and losing to two really good goals

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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby ahammel » Sun Jun 15, 2014 5:35 pm UTC

The England youngsters were really impressive. Shame about Roo-Roo's miss.

Really looking forward to England - Uruguay as a neutral.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby charliepanayi » Sun Jun 15, 2014 6:31 pm UTC

I cheered that Switzerland winner rather loudly. No real reason, just love a last minute winner.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby ahammel » Sun Jun 15, 2014 10:55 pm UTC

Well done the ref for playing them on after that foul on the last action.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby Diadem » Mon Jun 16, 2014 4:58 pm UTC

Half-time in Germany - Portugal now. Wow. What a match. Or well, not a match, more like a execution. Germany is completely outclassing Portugal.

And getting sent off like that with red, damn, so stupid. I know tensions can run high during a match, but headbutting someone when you can be absolutely sure the referee is watching. Sjeesh. Be professional.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby PolakoVoador » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:59 pm UTC

Pepe never was what I would call a smart player. Also, he repeatedly gets over violent.

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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby charliepanayi » Mon Jun 16, 2014 8:59 pm UTC

Disaster as World Cup has first really dull game!

And Pepe was a complete idiot. As usual.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby Diadem » Mon Jun 16, 2014 9:46 pm UTC

I found the Nigerian team to be very fascinating. They had absolutely amazing speed, they were so much faster than Iran on every single sprint, really impressive. And they clearly had the stamina too, despite 90 minutes in this crushing heat they showed no sign of slowing down. On the other hand their skill was just mediocre, and their accuracy in passing was absolutely terrible. Most passes went dozens of meters off mark. All in all they weren't very good, but I can't help but think they have a lot of potential.

Take a random Western European team, give their Nigeria's speed, stamina and enthusiasm, and they'd roll over literally any team with double digit scores.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby roband » Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:21 am UTC

Was Ghana/USA as good a game as the reports make it seem?

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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby Grop » Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:24 am UTC

Not much of a football fan, I have been trolling my colleagues with silly bets. Honduras sort of disappointed me, as I am betting against France for every game. But then I am not watching any.

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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby leady » Tue Jun 17, 2014 8:45 am UTC

roband wrote:Was Ghana/USA as good a game as the reports make it seem?


Game no -- last 20 - 30 minutes absolutely :)

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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby charliepanayi » Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:55 pm UTC

roband wrote:Was Ghana/USA as good a game as the reports make it seem?


No, but the last ten minutes were exciting, which is always a plus.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby ahammel » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:31 pm UTC

Grop wrote:Not much of a football fan, I have been trolling my colleagues with silly bets. Honduras sort of disappointed me, as I am betting against France for every game. But then I am not watching any.

Sadly, the French manager doesn't seem to be a lunatic this year.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby Heisenberg » Tue Jun 17, 2014 2:48 pm UTC

charliepanayi wrote:
roband wrote:Was Ghana/USA as good a game as the reports make it seem?


No, but the last ten minutes were exciting, which is always a plus.

US was getting dominated in the midfield. The only reason they only allowed one goal was that Ghana kept driving through the mid and taking terrible shots on goal.

Apparently Dempsey's nose is broken and Altidore's likely out for the rest of the tournament, so that may be the last goal the US scores for a while.

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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby charliepanayi » Tue Jun 17, 2014 6:42 pm UTC

I don't see why. Considering Dempsey played on with a broken nose, he'll be playing against Portugal.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby ahammel » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:35 pm UTC

Brazil seem to be in the unenviable position of being more boring to watch than Belgium.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby PolakoVoador » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:21 pm UTC

ahammel wrote:Brazil seem to be in the unenviable position of being more boring to watch than Belgium.

Yeah, Brazil was mediocre at best.

It seems the squad might not be at the same level as Germany, Netherlands, and perhaps Italy.

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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby ahammel » Wed Jun 18, 2014 1:15 am UTC

Guillermo Ochoa is looking for a club, apparently.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby roband » Wed Jun 18, 2014 2:42 pm UTC

I wonder if he'd be happy with a bench role at Liverpool...

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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby ahammel » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:10 pm UTC

Arjen Robben is very, very fast.

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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby Diadem » Wed Jun 18, 2014 3:20 pm UTC


The source they cite is "De Telegraaf", a Dutch newspaper not known for its reliability (or rather, well known for its lack thereof). Robben is fast, no doubt about it, but I don't believe for a second that he's the fastest footballer ever.

I'm going to be curious about today's game (obviously, since I'm Dutch). I really hope Oranje can keep up its good shape. Australia should be weaker than us, on paper, but it certainly won't be a walk in the park.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby gnutrino » Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:12 pm UTC

Very nearly the upset of the tournament. I'm a bit sad the Aussies didn't manage a draw at least, especially after Cahill's goal.

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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby charliepanayi » Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:30 pm UTC

Top game. More like that please!
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby Diadem » Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:42 pm UTC

What a game. I was on the edge of my seat for the entire second half. Wow. Australia played very well, gave us a lot of trouble. We do have some world class attackers though, that really saved us.

I feel somewhat sorry for Australia. They deserved more. They played a very good game today, and the first game imho they were better than Chile. They still have a small chance, if Spain beats Chile and then they beat Spain (and we beat Chile), but that is a very slim chance.

Not sure who to cheer for in the other match. If Chile wins we make it to the next round, but if Spain wins we are probably first in the group.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby charliepanayi » Wed Jun 18, 2014 8:59 pm UTC

Spain already the winners of this year's France 2002/Italy 2010 Crash and Burn Award. They were really poor.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby roband » Wed Jun 18, 2014 9:05 pm UTC

They were my pick to win the whole thing. Properly, genuinely thought they'd do it. Something was missing

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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby ahammel » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:44 pm UTC

Netherlands / Australia was aces. The Dutch defence has looked pretty shaky, but it must be said that they've only conceded one goal that wasn't a dodgy penalty. Still ahead on goal difference. A draw against Chile should be doable even without RvP.

Alex Song overtakes Pepe for the poor impulse control award.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby Diadem » Thu Jun 19, 2014 2:56 pm UTC

What did he do? I am watching a video of the incident online now, but it's very blurry, and I can't see anything special. He seems to give his opponent a slight push. A foul, but a red card?
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby roband » Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:02 pm UTC

It was an aggressive downwards elbow.

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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby ahammel » Thu Jun 19, 2014 3:10 pm UTC

roband wrote:It was an aggressive downwards elbow.

Ong Bak style. Always going to be red. The ref had no choice at all.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby charliepanayi » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:07 pm UTC

I thought Suarez was still not match fit before this game and that Uruguay would regret trying to rush him back. Wrong!

Funny how one of England/Uruguay/Costa Rica might yet get through with just three points.
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Re: Actual (Association) Football Talk.

Postby Negated » Thu Jun 19, 2014 9:39 pm UTC

charliepanayi wrote:I thought Suarez was still not match fit before this game and that Uruguay would regret trying to rush him back. Wrong!

Funny how one of England/Uruguay/Costa Rica might yet get through with just three points.

Italy is very good at doing the minimum to get the work done. The final game will end with a draw and Uruguay go through with 4 points. 8-)


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