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[Cracked] - Reality TV Is Causing the Apocalypse

Postby Princess Marzipan » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:15 am UTC

http://www.cracked.com/article_19101_6- ... lypse.html

This one's based more on information analysis than the usual "18 Things You Might Not Think Would Eat Your Face". I'm not sure ALL of the claims in the article make sense or that ALL of the science is sound, so I present it here because there are people here who can do a better job than I can of determining that.

The basic gist is that reality TV makes its viewers into terrible people. I found myself unable to disagree entirely, especially having spent a few months getting paid to watch what people said about TV shows while they were on.
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Re: [Cracked] - Reality TV be Causing the Apocalypse

Postby sourmìlk » Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:18 am UTC

I've read that article. I think it confuses things. Reality TV doesn't cause the apocalypse, it just points to the people already causing it.
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Re: [Cracked] - Reality TV be Causing the Apocalypse

Postby Bharrata » Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:03 am UTC

Hopefully ( a big one ) all of the viewers' character deterioration that the papers point to eventually leads to an existential crisis, sparking an ethical revolution, without the religion and division but instead one based on humanism.


It would be hilarious if Plato's cave dwellers only decide to leave the cave when they're allowed to sit in their own filth for as long as they wish.

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Re: [Cracked] - Reality TV Is Causing the Apocalypse

Postby Arrian » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:52 pm UTC

In related news, I just ran into this, which seems like the next step on the path to dystopian reality shows like "Blade Runner" and "Hunger Games."

In Henan Province, in central China, millions of people have been tuning in every week to watch an extraordinary talk show called Interviews Before Execution, in which a reporter interviews murderers condemned to death. The show ran for just over five years, until it was taken off air on Friday.

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Re: [Cracked] - Reality TV Is Causing the Apocalypse

Postby sourmìlk » Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:54 pm UTC

Well that's... morbid.
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Re: [Cracked] - Reality TV Is Causing the Apocalypse

Postby moiraemachy » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:22 pm UTC

About #4 ("plastic surgery reality tv makes people more likely to do cosmetic surgery"): that's not really surprising. More familiarity with plastic surgery would make people fear it less. I don't think people are fooled into believing plastic surgery is safer than it really is by watching these shows. Instead, I'd say that they become less irrationally afraid of it, and that any kind of exposure to plastic surgery in a similar light would have similar effects. I believe most people who get cosmetic surgery are sufficiently aware of and comfortable with the risks/benefits ratio of these interventions.

I'd be horrible if reality shows were making people less comfortable with their own bodies, but this is not stated and, even if this is the case, I don't believe reality shows are more guilty of that than other kinds of mass media.

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Re: [Cracked] - Reality TV Is Causing the Apocalypse

Postby philsov » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:40 pm UTC

Meh.

The mid-90s were plagued with the gruesome twosome of Bob Saget AND Dave Dave Coulier doing hilarious and often staged amateur videos. I guess it's a slow buildup.
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Re: [Cracked] - Reality TV Is Causing the Apocalypse

Postby folkhero » Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:18 pm UTC

sourmìlk wrote:Well that's... morbid.

Is it any more morbid than a reporter, like Truman Capote, doing a long series of interviews with death row inmates and writing a book about it?
To all law enforcement entities, this is not an admission of guilt...

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Re: [Cracked] - Reality TV Is Causing the Apocalypse

Postby sourmìlk » Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:38 am UTC

folkhero wrote:
sourmìlk wrote:Well that's... morbid.

Is it any more morbid than a reporter, like Truman Capote, doing a long series of interviews with death row inmates and writing a book about it?

A bit. I mean, the impression I got is that, as a 'reality' show, the TV show was meant for entertainment, whereas I doubt the book was.
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Re: [Cracked] - Reality TV Is Causing the Apocalypse

Postby Brickmack » Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:02 am UTC

Well this all seems rather obvious to me. Just about everyone I know that watches "reality" TV (fortunately only a small percentage of those I know) fit with much of what's described in the article.

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Re: [Cracked] - Reality TV Is Causing the Apocalypse

Postby PossibleSloth » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:46 am UTC

This story makes me want to watch the movie Network again.

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Re: [Cracked] - Reality TV Is Causing the Apocalypse

Postby sourmìlk » Thu Mar 15, 2012 4:48 am UTC

Brickmack wrote:Well this all seems rather obvious to me. Just about everyone I know that watches "reality" TV (fortunately only a small percentage of those I know) fit with much of what's described in the article.


Well that's anecdotal, but it makes sense that shows that idolize selfishness, idiocy, and vanity attract selfish, vain idiots.
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Re: [Cracked] - Reality TV Is Causing the Apocalypse

Postby Arrian » Thu Mar 15, 2012 2:35 pm UTC

sourmìlk wrote:
Brickmack wrote:Well this all seems rather obvious to me. Just about everyone I know that watches "reality" TV (fortunately only a small percentage of those I know) fit with much of what's described in the article.


Well that's anecdotal, but it makes sense that shows that idolize selfishness, idiocy, and vanity attract selfish, vain idiots.


The question is which causes which? Are people vain and vacuous because they watch reality tv, or is reality tv vain and vacuous because people who are like that watch tv? I imagine there's at least a bit of both in the mix, but one probably dominates. (And I'm VERY leery of the graph in the Cracked article, it's far too easy to do bad statistics that result in apparently robust, convincing arguments.)

One explanation for the explosion of reality tv that I heard a while back, though, is that it's much cheaper than fully scripted tv. Unfortunately, I have no cite and don't follow the industry so I don't know if this is common knowledge or a myth.

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Re: [Cracked] - Reality TV Is Causing the Apocalypse

Postby addams » Sun Mar 18, 2012 9:49 am UTC

It is a Monkey See; Monkey Do world.

What does the Monkey want to do?

Some of us watch Bob Ross. Some of us watch Snuff Films.

If, the only choice is Creepy Reality TV, then,??
The nightly news is creepy enough. It is creepy, too much.

Some people Kill the TV. I can't watch it, much.

Besides; The internet is better. So much cool stuff, on demand.
And; It is sometimes two way communication.
TV is old school. It could be used for Education. It could. Everything on TV would could be required to meet some objective standards of Education.

It is a Monkey See; Monkey Do world.

Who decides what we see on the TV?

ech. I took a class. The class confirmed my worse fears. Humans can be encouraged to be good as gold or foul and dank.

I think of it like a standard bell curve. There are people that are really good at one end and people that are really bad at the other end. Most people are out in the middle. Most people. Like 68%? Are effected by the culture to one degree or another. Reality TV is not reality. It helps to create reality.

Do cooking shows count? What about gardening shows? Bob Ross reruns? (Shrug.)
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Re: [Cracked] - Reality TV Is Causing the Apocalypse

Postby Jahoclave » Fri Mar 23, 2012 12:13 am UTC

I would say I agree, but I've read Adorno, a lot of Adorno, and quite frankly I'm pretty sure modern culture is just one big fuck you towards him.

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Re: [Cracked] - Reality TV Is Causing the Apocalypse

Postby Sheikh al-Majaneen » Fri Mar 23, 2012 3:00 am UTC

addams wrote:Reality TV is not reality. It helps to create reality.

That is what all media does. It is in the middle of everything (hence the name), interpreting everything and sending it to your brain. It is as true of cable news channels as it is of your eyes and ears.

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Re: [Cracked] - Reality TV Is Causing the Apocalypse

Postby addams » Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:28 am UTC

Sheikh al-Majaneen wrote:
addams wrote:Reality TV is not reality. It helps to create reality.

That is what all media does. It is in the middle of everything (hence the name), interpreting everything and sending it to your brain. It is as true of cable news channels as it is of your eyes and ears.


Influencing public opinion
See also: CIA influence on public opinion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cia#Outsourcing
This information is pertinent to any discussion of what is on TV. I think Reality TV is an insidious kind of censorship.
Spoiler:
The Office of Public Affairs advises the Director of the CIA on all media, public policy, and employee communications issues relating to this person's role. This office, among other functions, works with the entertainment industry.[44]


Reality TV is so disgusting that it must be what people want to watch? Maybe, not. Maybe, Reality TV is measured to have the effects of dividing people and turning them against one another. It is understandable as a psychological weapon.

Reality TV establishes norms. Then those norms are expressed as both aggression and fear. It could be. Some people are Assholes without any encouragement. Many others take a little encouragement. With only a little encouragement the aggressive Asshole inside grows to dwarf the Noble human soul. Reality TV provides the needed encouragement.

I was reading. I read that China has censorship. It seems that the US does, too.

The censorship of China seems to be open and clearly transparent when compared to what the US is up to. I do not have the strength to worm my way down any farther. You do it.

Answer the questions: Who decides what is on TV?

Is the content good for the people? Is the content good for the nation?

Transparent censorship may be like deciding that Age Of Reason can be read at school.
Porn at school? No.
See?
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Those that do not Know; Don't tell them.
They do terrible things to people that Tell Them.


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