KrytenKoro wrote:Trebla wrote:It happens "all the time"... but it happens significantly less frequently than the other way around. At least, that's the impression I have. Most people don't shoot someone who's fleeing from them, even if "all the time" a tiny fraction of people do. My default assumption for ANY person is that they wouldn't shoot in that situation until evidence shows otherwise. (But my default assumption is that most people are inherently good until they demonstrate otherwise, too, so... maybe I'm too optimistic).
Okay, so you're ignoring what the generic behavior of a cop, especially the documented behavior of the cop's Wilson worked with would act, and saying "well, a normal person on the street wouldn't do this, so obviously it's more plausible that Wilson acted like a normal person on the street than the people he's actually most similar to in terms of career/culture/etc."
You're still being disingenuous here. It's far more common that a cop, any cop, even a cop with documented misbehavior, will NOT fire upon a fleeing suspect in a statistical situation. Yes, some cops do sometimes, but those are exceptional cases, so saying "it's more plausible that he fired upon a fleeing suspect" is saying that the exceptional case is the more plausible. That's the opposite of true. If there was ANY evidence that pointed to it happening, you could swing the other way, but there's not... the best you have are inconsistent and conflicting testimonies which essentially contributes nothing to either side.
So yes, the most plausible assumption, absent any additional physical evidence, is that he probably wouldn't fire upon a fleeing suspect. I'm not saying he definitely didn't, but if we are applying Occam's Razor (which seems to be how this line of assumptions got started), it's far more plausible to assume, on this point, he didn't.
Yes, common sense dictates it's more plausible that Brown bent down and reached into Wilson's car rather than Wilson being able to wrap his arm around the neck of a (tall) man standing outside his window while seated.
Because there's literally no way Brown would have gotten close to the window of the cop unless he was about to attack him? "Boy, c'mere" has never happened?
So now we can invent things that Johnson didn't even claim happened? The only hostile account of the actions at the car comes from Johnson, so even if we take that account at face value... Wilson tried to open the door, it bounced off BOTH Johnson and Brown hard enough to close back on itself and then Wilson grabbed Brown. Nothing about Brown bending down (and why would he after he'd just been hit by the door of an aggressive officer?).
So yes, it's possible that the only account which has every incentive to bias itself towards painting Brown as the victim at the car (he's obviously the victim of the shooting) didn't mention that Wilson made a racist remark and Brown bent down, at which point Wilson grabbed him. It's unreasonable to believe that's likely. But yes, it's possible that "it could have gone that way," but nobody involved said anything about it. It's also possible a lone gunman on a nearby hill fired the shots. If we're just making things up, you can paint any picture you want.