Tyndmyr wrote:cphite wrote:The offense she committed was that she interfered with a legal search of a suspect. She didn't merely offer him advice; she handed him a card. It really shouldn't surprise anyone including her that handing someone an item while they're being actively searched would result in arrest.
It does not surprise me that it happened, no.
But I don't think it ought to. A business card or the like isn't a security threat.
The business card itself isn't the issue; the issue is that she interfered with a lawful search of a suspect. It's a matter of basic safety; you'd be hard pressed to find any police department anywhere that is going to abide that sort of behavior, or shrug it off just because it turns out to be a business card.
I think a simple statement of "we're searching the subject, please step aside" would be adequate. End of the day, it's a business card. Nobody is in danger, there is not cause to arrest or strip search her.
On that same note, she could have simply said "I would like to give this person a card that informs him of his rights" instead of just walking headlong into an active situation and handing him the card.
The takeaway is that if you see someone being arrested or search, don't attempt to hand them something or take something from them.
The takeaway is to comply with police or they will fuck up your life.
They hardly fucked up her life. She was arrested, detained, and searched; they didn't even charge her with anything.
Look, not everyone being detained gets searched, and not everyone searched gets strip searched. There are escalations here that you're skimming over.
Most people who are arrested and detained get searched; and you all but guarantee it if you're uncooperative. The reason she was strip searched is because she refused to cooperate with the normal process.
Also, in free countries, people don't have to carry ID cards. I'm not up on UK law, but a number of US states still don't require a person to provide ID to the police, and not carrying/providing ID is not legal justification for anything.
You are confusing two distinct issues.
She wasn't arrested for not identifying herself; she was arrested for obstruction, basically for interfering with a lawful search of a suspect.
She was searched because, after being taken into custody, she refused to identify herself along with being generally uncooperative.
And yes; you are not required to carry an ID card, nor are you required to identify yourself to any police officer who asks on a whim. But when you've actually been arrested, and are being detained, the situation is completely different.