Chen wrote:They turned on the siren and told him to drop the weapon. This could be a tragic mistake on his part to instinctively turn towards the people calling out to him....
Yes, it was clearly his mistake that led to him being shot to death. He should have known better than to have Spanish as his first language in an English-speaking country. Stupid kid.
Chen wrote:....an image in the video of a man holding up 2 guns that looks like AKs. I assume one is real and one is fake (as the article text mentions). Frankly at a glance I can't tell which is which.
Well, protip: the one with the shiny brown plastic molded barrel guard and stock, the chrome barrel, and the bright red sticker on the housing is the toy; the one with the wooden barrel guard and stock and the anodized steel barrel is the real one.
But this is missing the point: no matter how real a firearm looks, you don't just open fire. If the officer was so knowledgeable about "assault weapons", he would have known that an AK-47 is not particularly controllable at pistol range. You shouldn't have your gun out, let alone start pulling the trigger, unless there is a credible threat.
Chen wrote:....guns that realistic looking should not be allowed to be carried in public like that, though I guess that is what that orange tip is supposed to be for.
are allowed to be carried in public like that. Even in California, there is absolutely nothing to prevent me from walking down a public street carrying a real semiautomatic rifle (granted, I can no longer purchase one unless it has a fixed mag, but that's beside the point). Would it be reasonable for a police officer to ask me where I'm going and what I'm doing? Sure, I don't have a problem with that. Is it reasonable for a group of police officers to shoot me to death before I've had a chance to answer their shouts? No, it is not. That is called an extrajudicial killing.Even if rifles were completely illegal,
carrying one in public would not constitute a credible threat warranting deadly force.
In any case, all I said was that the factors that made such a tragedy possible need to go. Do you disagree? Do you think that this is an acceptable loss? Whatever training, culture, or ideas make it possible for police to shoot an innocent boy to death have to end. That's the bottom line.
CorruptUser wrote:They tried to grab each student and drag them away, but they were locking arms and the only way to drag them away was to beat the crap out of them.
Attacking people who won't obey your orders is pretty much the exact definition of bullying.