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Microsoft leetspeak

Postby Zohar » Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:39 pm UTC

This is incredibly weird... I wonder who decided to add that page on their website.
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Postby RealGrouchy » Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:21 pm UTC

TFA wrote:Nearly all characters are formed as phonemes and symbols...

If a parent is enough of an idiot that they need a Microsoft help page to tell them to pay attention to their own children, I don't think they'd be sufficiently versed to understand the word "phoneme".

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Re: Microsoft leetspeak

Postby Brian » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:02 pm UTC

Microsoft wrote:Leet words are expressed in hundreds of ways, using a dizzying array of substitutions and combinations.

lol stfu noobs

Parents should play games with their kids every once in a while to prevent the ignorance that spawned this webpage. I find myself having to "adjust" my language all of the time just to express what I do online to parents/friends who don't play games.

"My guild is the most progressed on the server"
turns into
"The guys that I play with are some of the best players in the game."

"My spec got nerfed, so I'm thinking about respeccing resto once I get some gear."
turns into
"They recently changed the game a bit, so I have to work harder to be as effective as I was before the change."

While it's obviously acceptable for friends, etc. to not accomodate my speech by modifying their life, parents should at least take some time to understand the culture that their kids are spending time in.

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Postby saxmaniac1987 » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:35 pm UTC

Everyone vote "No" to the question "Was this information useful?" See if the page disappears.

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Postby arrgh406 » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:29 am UTC

With the letter X replacing the letter C or K, the example becomes "sxillz".


wow. never knew that. Thanks Microsoft!

i also find myself having to compnsate for this with my parents. for example
"dad, wasn't dat jawn the stuff?"
turns into
"dad, wasn't that movie/event/action/person cool?"

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Postby Castaway » Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:44 am UTC

oh noes!1! parents everywhere will have my |337 5x1||z :shock:
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Postby Owijad » Mon Jul 30, 2007 2:07 am UTC

If you can't figure out what 7h1$ 5ay$, reading Microsoft's help page won't help any.

But anyways, that page is bizzare on so many levels.

Not to mention that that page came like, eight years too late. I mean, they're catching up on it so late that it's retro.

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Postby Keroppi » Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:57 am UTC

I think a lot of parents out there are just concerned about what their children doing online, and I think this may be intended as a sort of Rosetta stone for kids' net-speak.

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Postby Dibley » Tue Jul 31, 2007 3:17 am UTC

Keroppi wrote:I think a lot of parents out there are just concerned about what their children doing online, and I think this may be intended as a sort of Rosetta stone for kids' net-speak.


Yeah, that's kinda the point. Doesn't prevent it from being both stupid and amusing.

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Postby Nab » Tue Jul 31, 2007 11:44 am UTC

Does anyone actually use leet speak?

Anyways, if kids are gonna be hiding stuff from their parents, why not use steganography or cryptography. Parents will have no idea what LSB and RSA mean.

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Postby Yakk » Tue Jul 31, 2007 12:14 pm UTC

I've seen that page in MS land in a previous incarnation.

1337 was spread, if not developed, in the BBS era (late 80s/early 90s) of the information era. Communication was restricted to ASCII, often fixed-width. By adopting a slang, a subculture could form that made newcomers have to adapt to the customs of the locals.

However, even by the 90s it's use was more ironic than serious -- a typical fluent 1337 593|<3r would more often use it to convey ironic detachment from enthusiasm about the subject rather than actual communication.

Note that similar local customs where used in other communications mediums of the time. In Usenet, it was called "read the FAQ".

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Postby ehiunno » Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:30 pm UTC

Yakk wrote:
Then September came...


Well, I dont know about you guys, but...

wake me up when september ends!

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Re: Microsoft leetspeak

Postby iknoritesrsly » Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:50 pm UTC

Brian wrote:While it's obviously acceptable for friends, etc. to not accomodate my speech by modifying their life, parents should at least take some time to understand the culture that their kids are spending time in.


Perhaps, but I suspect that your average parent probably has better things to do than learn about world of warcraft--like, you know, putting bread and butter on the table. :roll:

Why would a parent need to understand leet speak anyways? If a child can only communicate in silly internet jargon when talking to someone in real life about ordinary things--well, God help them, they need more than for their parents to understand leet--like, perhaps a parent that is willing to yank them away from the video games for a few hours a day.

p.s. My little rant aside, funny article, though it's quite old iirc. ;D

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Re: Microsoft leetspeak

Postby SecondTalon » Tue Jul 31, 2007 4:53 pm UTC

iknoritesrsly wrote:
Brian wrote:While it's obviously acceptable for friends, etc. to not accomodate my speech by modifying their life, parents should at least take some time to understand the culture that their kids are spending time in.


Perhaps, but I suspect that your average parent probably has better things to do than learn about world of warcraft--like, you know, putting bread and butter on the table. :roll:

Why would a parent need to understand leet speak anyways? If a child can only communicate in silly internet jargon when talking to someone in real life about ordinary things--well, God help them, they need more than for their parents to understand leet--like, perhaps a parent that is willing to yank them away from the video games for a few hours a day.

p.s. My little rant aside, funny article, though it's quite old iirc. ;D


So they can understand what their little hellions are talking about when looking over the chatlogs they got from the various spy software packages they've installed without their child's notice.

..

I used to work for CompUSA. You wouldn't believe how many adults I've had ask me for "good software to log my kid's chat sessions"

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