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The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Eleni » Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:09 am UTC

20th Century Fox is beaming its new The Day the Earth Stood Still movie to Alpha Centauri using a satellite communications network in Cape Canaveral (IMDb, Variety). The publicity stunt means that the movie can boast being the "widest release ever".

Of course, considering the universally horrendous reviews the movie is receiving, we can expect a horrendously negative reception throughout the universe, and our offended neighbors in Alpha Centauri will deem us incapable of refraining from such atrocities as that movie and come to destroy us. Luckily the movie won't reach them for another four years, so we still have some time.
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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Kazuke » Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:34 am UTC

Shit, we're gonna get invaded by pissed off aliens.

And it's Fox's fault.

Who'da thunk?

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Green9090 » Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:51 am UTC

Kazuke wrote:Shit, we're gonna get invaded by pissed off aliens.

And it's Fox's fault.

Who'da thunk?

We really should have seen this coming.
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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Vieto » Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:57 am UTC

Anyone here have the cold?

We'll be needing you on the front lines.

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Megatriorchis » Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:04 am UTC

Well, I'm going to go to an underground bunker in Texas and stock up on dry goods and canned milk and water. Join me if you don't want to get destroyed by pissed-off aliens.
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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Vieto » Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:20 am UTC

Ok, action plan for alien invasion:

1. spot Aliens
2. start pandemic
3. hide in bunker
4. Aliens get sick, die
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profit!

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Kazuke » Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:22 am UTC

Alternatively, they come to Earth to pick up Keanu Reaves and bring him back home.

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby puppetprince » Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:12 am UTC

shit, we dont have long.... we need to start making a better version to give to them if they arrive.

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Spuddly » Sat Dec 13, 2008 1:43 pm UTC

That means we've got 4 years to make Independence Day 2.
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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby icanus » Sat Dec 13, 2008 2:20 pm UTC

puppetprince wrote:shit, we dont have long.... we need to start making a better version to give to them if they arrive.

It's OK, we've had one since 1951.

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby wst » Sat Dec 13, 2008 3:59 pm UTC

I for one welcome our new alien overlords.
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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby cwoodin » Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:15 pm UTC

icanus wrote:
puppetprince wrote:shit, we dont have long.... we need to start making a better version to give to them if they arrive.
It's OK, we've had one since 1951.
I was clearly going to say that.

But seriously? Of all the movies we could use to introduce hollywood to our future overlords, we chose a Keanu Reeves movie?
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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Darkscull » Sat Dec 13, 2008 5:18 pm UTC

Spuddly wrote:That means we've got 4 years to make Independence Day 2.


8, assuming they can travel at the speed of light.
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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby The Reaper » Sat Dec 13, 2008 6:55 pm UTC

Futurama saw this coming....

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby icanus » Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:36 pm UTC

cwoodin wrote:But seriously? Of all the movies we could use to introduce hollywood to our future overlords, we chose a Keanu Reeves movie?

Rather clever actually - this way we can convince the aliens that we are in fact a race of pitiless cyborgs who they really don't want to tangle with.

Keanu Reeves scares me. I once saw him get hit in the head by a thrown orange*, and he didn't even flinch.

*His band was playing at the Glastonbury festival. To be fair, they weren't awful, and I felt kinda bad about how rough the crowd were on them.

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Kazuke » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:06 pm UTC

cwoodin wrote:
But seriously? Of all the movies we could use to introduce hollywood to our future overlords, we chose a Keanu Reeves movie?


It's Fox.

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby william » Sat Dec 13, 2008 9:26 pm UTC

Hopefully the aliens will realize that Earth is a complex planet with many nations, allegiances, and alignments, and thus only destroy Fox.
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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Angua » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:48 am UTC

icanus wrote:Keanu Reeves scares me. I once saw him get hit in the head by a thrown orange*, and he didn't even flinch.

*His band was playing at the Glastonbury festival. To be fair, they weren't awful, and I felt kinda bad about how rough the crowd were on them.
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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Vieto » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:57 am UTC

If we are lucky, the Martians will invade us at exactly the same time, Thus resulting in a chaotic High-Earth-Orbital battle that results in the defeat of both participating factions, and epochs of new technology that we will likely kill each other with for us.

If one gains the upper hand, we either start playing bad music, or use one of their captured ships to send a nuke into the core of the mother ship.

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Luthen » Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:50 am UTC

If there's a high orbital battle, I'll probably need more than just an umbrella right?

Also we have four years to break the lightspeed barrier so that we can intercept the tranmission. Go!
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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Vieto » Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:11 am UTC

Too late! They're already at saturn!

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Kazuke » Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:20 pm UTC

Vieto wrote: or use one of their captured ships to send a nuke into the core of the mother ship.


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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Jahan » Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:58 pm UTC

Vieto wrote:Too late! They're already at saturn!

Image


They must have got the pirate copy.

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby wst » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:04 pm UTC

Vieto wrote:Image
That's no moon...
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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Mr. Beck » Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:45 pm UTC

wst wrote:
Vieto wrote:Image
That's no moon...

Yes it is.

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Vieto » Sun Dec 14, 2008 8:56 pm UTC

Image

close enough for me...

It will be with-in firing range in 20 minutes!

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby DesertEagle » Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:16 pm UTC

Vieto wrote:Image

close enough for me...

It will be with-in firing range in 20 minutes!


It might shock you guys but I did not get the reference until this was posted.

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Vieto » Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:20 pm UTC

did you know the first photo of that moon came 3 years after the first star-wars movie?

Talk about timing.

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby scrovak » Tue Dec 16, 2008 4:11 am UTC

This is why we should have an IF, supported by a hegemon, to control out-going communications. That's really just shitty. Especially because, if there is sentient life in that particular galaxy, will they understand the concept of movies, actors, or pretend? For all they know, it could very well be a threat...
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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby LeopoldBloom » Tue Dec 16, 2008 5:58 am UTC

Especially because, if there is sentient life in that particular galaxy, will they understand the concept of movies, actors, or pretend? For all they know, it could very well be a threat...


Galaxy Quest comes to mind, except given what I've heard of TDTESS there would be . . .differences.

Oh well, with luck Keanu might be kidnapped to help the Aliens :D
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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Solt » Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:30 am UTC

scrovak wrote:Especially because, if there is sentient life in that particular galaxy, will they understand the concept of movies, actors, or pretend? For all they know, it could very well be a threat...


Depending on how the transmission is being made, will they even understand how to interpret it? If it is an analog transmission will they know to run it through a series of magnets controlling the path of an electron bean directed at a photo luminescent screen? If the transmission is digital will they know how to uncompress and decode the data?

Very unlikely. The very concept of meaningful inter species first communication being anything more than a simple pattern is ridiculous. Their reaction would probably be "We have no idea what this means but it clearly isn't a natural phenomena so cool!"
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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby TomBot » Tue Dec 16, 2008 8:59 am UTC

Assuming the aliens have a similar enough concept of vision to understand what a 2-d image is, I don't think an analog television signal would be hard to decode. If you're looking at an unknown signal like that, the first thing you're going to look for is repeating patterns. Since each line is pretty similar to the last, you're going to notice that it almost repeats every (HSync period). Now all you have to do is make a 2d graph of those patterns, and you'll see the pictures, and you can probably figure out pretty easily that they should be put in order. Then you'll notice it's jerky, and you'll de-interlace it, and all will be well. Now, I am assuming that the aliens have made a recording with sufficient bandwidth, and can analyze it with computers or something, but that's pretty reasonable if they're actually listening to radio signals as faint as this one would be. (Which may well be impossible, I dunno.)

Heh, if they can receive terrestrial TV broadcasts (unlikely), and can decode analog but not digital TV signals (unlikely), what will they think had happened this February when a big chunk of a continent goes dark?

edit: Interesting reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communicat ... telligence

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby icanus » Tue Dec 16, 2008 9:17 am UTC

Solt wrote:Very unlikely. The very concept of meaningful inter species first communication being anything more than a simple pattern is ridiculous. Their reaction would probably be "We have no idea what this means but it clearly isn't a natural phenomena so cool!"

Could still be embarrassing if they follow it up and we later manage to get some meaningful communication going. Presumably they'd ask what the original message meant at some point.

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby 22/7 » Tue Dec 16, 2008 2:19 pm UTC

icanus wrote:
Solt wrote:Very unlikely. The very concept of meaningful inter species first communication being anything more than a simple pattern is ridiculous. Their reaction would probably be "We have no idea what this means but it clearly isn't a natural phenomena so cool!"

Could still be embarrassing if they follow it up and we later manage to get some meaningful communication going. Presumably they'd ask what the original message meant at some point.

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22/7 wrote:
icanus wrote:
Solt wrote:Very unlikely. The very concept of meaningful inter species first communication being anything more than a simple pattern is ridiculous. Their reaction would probably be "We have no idea what this means but it clearly isn't a natural phenomena so cool!"

Could still be embarrassing if they follow it up and we later manage to get some meaningful communication going. Presumably they'd ask what the original message meant at some point.

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TomBot wrote:Heh, if they can receive terrestrial TV broadcasts (unlikely), and can decode analog but not digital TV signals (unlikely), what will they think had happened this February when a big chunk of a continent goes dark?

Your ambiguous use of tense words confuses and infuriates me. Is this Feb 08 or Feb 09 and what's happening?
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Postby 22/7 » Wed Dec 17, 2008 2:36 pm UTC

But... but that just adds unnecessary lines to the page...
Totally not a hypothetical...

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby Amnesiasoft » Wed Dec 17, 2008 5:05 pm UTC

Even then, wouldn't a digital signal still have an apparent pattern to it? Though I guess it's generally not hard to find apparent patterns in random things either...

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby TomBot » Thu Dec 18, 2008 7:30 am UTC

Luthen wrote:
TomBot wrote:Heh, if they can receive terrestrial TV broadcasts (unlikely), and can decode analog but not digital TV signals (unlikely), what will they think had happened this February when a big chunk of a continent goes dark?

Your ambiguous use of tense words confuses and infuriates me. Is this Feb 08 or Feb 09 and what's happening?

I meant this coming February (2009), when the FCC shuts down analog broadcasts in the US. I also had some trouble devising the correct verb phrase to convey a future alien's hypothesis about an event in its past but our future. ("what will they think will have had happened"?) Grammar is the biggest difficulty in time travel.

In the case of a digital signal, I bet they would realize something's there - even if the bits have no pattern, a uniformly timed sequence of random bits would at least be worthy of further study. (And though the compression tends to make the bits seem random, I imagine there are still regularities from framing and headers and so forth.) Heh, unless we set the broadcast flag, in which case the aliens will be unable to record it. :)

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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby scrovak » Thu Dec 18, 2008 10:58 pm UTC

TomBot wrote: Grammar is the biggest difficulty in time travel.



Eureka!

That's why we can't do it, we have all the technology we need, hell the DeLorean has been around for years...

We just have to figure out how the flying fuck to convey that we did/done/will do/are doing it!!!
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Re: The Day the Earth Stood Still sent to Alpha Centauri

Postby icanus » Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:49 pm UTC

So it has will have going to have happened happened, but it hasn't actually happened happened yet?

edit: (to which the only appropriate response is of course: "It will be happened; it shall be going to be happening; it will be was an event that could will have been taken place in the future. Simple as that."


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