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A Comprehensive list of Respectable sources of News online.

Postby LeopoldBloom » Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:04 am UTC

This thread is intended as a compilation of various online sources of news and articles as well as a brief description and some general consent as to their reliability.

-The list so far.
General British Sources(world wide coverage)
Spoiler:
British Broadcasting Corporation- Highly recommended, very slight left wing slant.

The Guardian - good, well reported with a liberal/leftwing slant. Also one of the best non specialist papers for more technological matters. A U.K paper but very good international coverage, quite highbrow as well.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/ - The Times (Britain) website. Murdoch-owned newspaper, like Sky Television, but generally pretty fair and intellectual coverage. Right-wing slant.

The Independent Much like the Guardian, but more so.


General American Sources (world wide coverage)

Spoiler:
http://www.ap.org/ Associated press- fairly good reputation, A lot of there materiel gets rehashed by other sites which add their own bias.

NPR- partially state-sponsored,intelligent and balanced coverage in the US. Spends a lot of time on international issues. which is apparently rare there.

http://www.nytimes.com --bit of a liberal slant, but reports news from all around the world.


Technology Sources
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Slashdot "news for nerds, stuff that matters" User submitted blurbs on technological and digital rights issued, very limited in scope but good in what it does. Has a heavy bias in most issues so ymmv.

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http://www.neowin.net[/url] They're okay, they cover all OSes, but it's a bit of a Windows slant. And the forum attitude is crap.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/ - The Register. Similar to /., posting Science/Tech news from across the global. Seems somewhat anti-Microsoft in a very vendetta-like manner

http://www.newscientist.com/home.ns - New Scientist online. Doesn't give you the wealth of content that the magazine does, unless you pay an online subscription.


Collectors of News from other sources

Spoiler:
Digg and Reddit- generic user generated news and discussion, not very reliable.
Google News- World news headlines from other sources.


Blogs
Spoiler:
CNN Political Ticker: Decent political news blog, but a definite slant towards sensationalism. Also tends to shuffle around it's posts to put 'important' things on top, which gets annoying. Political bias varies heavily based on the author, but generally liberal.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com --blog, but talks about most major political stuff going on in the US. Liberal slant.

Taegan Goodard's Political Wire: A political blog like above, but more with more interesting pieces, better, more level headed reporting, and an overall extra dollop of awesome sauce.


Other
Spoiler:
http://www.ft.com/home/uk - Financial Times, for budding economists

Politico: The political news site. Nice array of articles and blogs. Of particular interest is Politoco 44, which is a collection of updates (I'd hesitate to call it a blog) and links to in-house articles on what Obama is up to. Ever so slightly conservative, but you have to be looking for it to see it.
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Re: A Comprehensive list of Respectable sources of News online.

Postby poxic » Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:12 am UTC

I like using Google news (news.google.com). It shows the top stories of the moment from a few different sources. I can read a bit of how the various news agencies are slanting a story and try to divine the real situation.
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Postby joshz » Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:15 pm UTC

http://www.nytimes.com --bit of a liberal slant, but reports news from all around the world.

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com --blog, but talks about most major political stuff going on in the US. Liberal slant.
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Re: A Comprehensive list of Respectable sources of News online.

Postby Amoeba » Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:20 pm UTC

bbc.co.uk - left-slanted, but less so than The Guardian or The Independent. No annoying ads (if you're in the UK, but you presumably use it anyway). Comprehensive and in-depth.
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Postby Dobblesworth » Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:36 pm UTC

http://www.theregister.co.uk/ - The Register. Similar to /., posting Science/Tech news from across the global. Seems somewhat anti-Microsoft in a very vendetta-like manner
http://www.ft.com/home/uk - Financial Times, for budding economists
http://www.newscientist.com/home.ns - New Scientist online. Doesn't give you the wealth of content that the magazine does, unless you pay an online subscription.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/ - The Times (Britain) website. Murdoch-owned newspaper, like Sky Television, but generally pretty fair and intellectual coverage

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Postby Mysidic » Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:05 am UTC

Amoeba wrote:bbc.co.uk - left-slanted, but less so than The Guardian or The Independent. No annoying ads (if you're in the UK, but you presumably use it anyway). Comprehensive and in-depth.


Echo the BBC. They do a lot better job than the news outlets in the United States(well, I havn't tried PBS yet, and I don't even think they have a real dedicated news site)
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Postby aleflamedyud » Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:34 am UTC

Amoeba wrote:bbc.co.uk - left-slanted, but less so than The Guardian or The Independent. No annoying ads (if you're in the UK, but you presumably use it anyway). Comprehensive and in-depth.

The BBC only has a slight leftist slant, and that by omission only. Otherwise, they're a pretty good place to get the facts and just the facts.
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Postby Maduyn » Fri Jan 02, 2009 12:45 am UTC

http://www.ap.org/

Associated press has a very good reputation considering alot of news agencies get their news from them then interpret the information which leads to their bias.
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Re: A Comprehensive list of Respectable sources of News online.

Postby Darkscull » Fri Jan 02, 2009 1:13 am UTC

Just so that people know, The Independent is essentially the sunday version of The Guardian.

IIRC, they are actually owned by the same people and run by half of the same staff.

That doesn't have any bearing on what they say, of course, but people tend to trust papers a bit less when they find out things like that after having read them for a while.


I second (third?) news.bbc.co.uk.

Apart from a few things on there that are essentially adverts for bbc programmes, they are quite good.
Their features and analyses are not the best either, but as people have said: when they're presenting the facts, they are the facts, and not much more.

They also have good international sections, and I know several Americans who use the bbc rather than US sources because they get a more accurate and unbiased picture of what's going on in their own country from there.
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Postby LeopoldBloom » Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:06 am UTC

Just so that people know, The Independent is essentially the sunday version of The Guardian.

IIRC, they are actually owned by the same people and run by half of the same staff.

That doesn't have any bearing on what they say, of course, but people tend to trust papers a bit less when they find out things like that after having read them for a while.


Wow, I didn't know that. I'm actually slightly stunned.
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Re: A Comprehensive list of Respectable sources of News online.

Postby Connington » Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:01 am UTC

Couple of politics ones:

CNN Political Ticker: Decent political news blog, but a definite slant towards sensationalism. Also tends to shuffle around it's posts to put 'important' things on top, which gets annoying. Political bias varies heavily based on the author, but generally liberal.

Taegan Goodard's Political Wire: A political blog like above, but more with more interesting pieces, better, more level headed reporting, and an overall extra dollop of awesome sauce.

Politico: The political news site. Nice array of articles and blogs. Of particular interest is Politoco 44, which is a collection of updates (I'd hesitate to call it a blog) and links to in-house articles on what Obama is up to. Ever so slightly conservative, but you have to be looking for it to see it.

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Re: A Comprehensive list of Respectable sources of News online.

Postby Silas » Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:00 am UTC

There're a number of US papers that have good reputations, in addition to the New York Times.
The Washington Post,
The Chicago Tribune,
The Miami Herald, and
The LA Times come to mind.
They have good reputations for journalism. At the highest levels, that reputation seems to depend more on occasionally delivering an exceptional story than on thoughtful, comprehensive day-to-day news, but the above list (which is not exhaustive) is just in a different category from local dailies like the Richmond Times Dispatch. Better copy (fewer typos, tidier sentences, etc.), out-of-city stories, and a generally more elite reporting team.

But pretty much all US newspapers get a significant chunk of their national and international stories from the wire services, and specialize in packaging and revising them for publication. You can get at least some of their articles direct. The chief three are the AP, which has come up before now, but also Reuters and Agence France-Presse.

There are some US papers with a distinctive slant- I'm thinking of the Washington Times, which has a reputation as a right-wing mouthpiece (that also delivers news, of course). Their bias shouldn't be exaggerated, though; I've never heard of the Times knowingly reporting a fact that wasn't true; it's a matter of inclusion and emphasis.

The last paper I want to bring up is the Christian Science Monitor. It's published by the First Church of Christ, Scientist as a sort of social mission. Excellent reporting, though the its coverage isn't as broad as the major dailies- a few good stories weekly.
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Postby Amoeba » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:11 pm UTC

aleflamedyud wrote:
Amoeba wrote:bbc.co.uk - left-slanted, but less so than The Guardian or The Independent. No annoying ads (if you're in the UK, but you presumably use it anyway). Comprehensive and in-depth.

The BBC only has a slight leftist slant, and that by omission only. Otherwise, they're a pretty good place to get the facts and just the facts.


Mm, fair. I just wanted to pre-empt the attacks.

Darkscull wrote:Just so that people know, The Independent is essentially the sunday version of The Guardian.

IIRC, they are actually owned by the same people and run by half of the same staff.


Are you getting The Independent (daily national with sister paper The Independent on Sunday) confused with The Observer (The Guardian's sister paper, although they do disagree, such as initially on Iraq)? The Independent and The Guardian are completely separate.
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Postby stony-p » Sat Jan 03, 2009 5:57 pm UTC

Amoeba wrote:
Darkscull wrote:Just so that people know, The Independent is essentially the sunday version of The Guardian.

IIRC, they are actually owned by the same people and run by half of the same staff.


Are you getting The Independent (daily national with sister paper The Independent on Sunday) confused with The Observer (The Guardian's sister paper, although they do disagree, such as initially on Iraq)? The Independent and The Guardian are completely separate.


Exactly, The Independent is a daily paper... how can it be a "Sunday version" of The Guardian? :s The Independent [as the name suggests] was set up to provide a new independent voice amongst the more established papers, not as some kind of leftist media collaboration with The Guardian.

The Observer and Guardian make no secret of being sister papers, owned by the same group... I'm not sure why anyone would trust them less for it as Darkscull suggests.

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Postby LeopoldBloom » Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:57 am UTC

stony-p wrote:I'm not sure why anyone would trust them less for it as Darkscull suggests.


It might mean that they simply rehashed the same articles and materiel, but i agree. It is a small point of potential problems and can probably be ignored.
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Postby Darkscull » Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:51 pm UTC

Amoeba wrote:
Darkscull wrote:Just so that people know, The Independent is essentially the sunday version of The Guardian.

IIRC, they are actually owned by the same people and run by half of the same staff.


Are you getting The Independent (daily national with sister paper The Independent on Sunday) confused with The Observer (The Guardian's sister paper, although they do disagree, such as initially on Iraq)? The Independent and The Guardian are completely separate.


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Postby wst » Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:53 pm UTC

Another Tech one :
www.neowin.net
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Postby Mr. Beck » Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:16 pm UTC

NPR
It may be partially state-sponsored, but I find it had the most intelligent and balanced coverage in the US. Spends a lot of time on international issues, which can often be hard to find here.

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Postby Bluggo » Fri Jan 16, 2009 4:59 pm UTC

The Onion
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Postby Kizyr » Fri Jan 16, 2009 5:09 pm UTC

BBC News is the gold standard, so it's unsurprising that it's among the first mentioned.

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Financial Times is overall my favorite paper. I think they have great and broad coverage, and there's very little slant in either direction--whatever slant they do have tends to be confined to the obvious places, like op-ed pieces, and even then they'll often have opposing articles.

Mr. Beck wrote:NPR
It may be partially state-sponsored, but I find it had the most intelligent and balanced coverage in the US. Spends a lot of time on international issues, which can often be hard to find here.

I was about to mention NPR if no one else would. I've found it to be the best US-based news source, on par with BBC in terms of quality. Of course they have nowhere near the same level of resources, so they can't compete in terms of quantity. But they do fantastic with what they do have.

Their interviews tend to be really interesting, too. I find them more informative than some of the ones BBC does, even.

I'll post later if I can think of a few other good ones that haven't already been mentioned. KF
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Postby wst » Fri Jan 16, 2009 7:00 pm UTC

Kizyr wrote:BBC News is the gold standard, so it's unsurprising that it's among the first mentioned.
I find AlJazeera English to be quite good ;) You really have to watch/read more than one article on each topic to get a balanced view though.
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Postby Kizyr » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:55 pm UTC

wst wrote:
Kizyr wrote:BBC News is the gold standard, so it's unsurprising that it's among the first mentioned.
I find AlJazeera English to be quite good ;) You really have to watch/read more than one article on each topic to get a balanced view though.

Incidentally, Al-Jazeera English was the first source not yet mentioned that I was going to post. I was trying to come up with a few others in the meantime, and some comments on AJE to suggest what perspectives might be useful. KF
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Postby LeopoldBloom » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:02 am UTC

Bluggo wrote:I was about to mention NPR if no one else would. I've found it to be the best US-based news source, on par with BBC in terms of quality. Of course they have nowhere near the same level of resources, so they can't compete in terms of quality. But they do fantastic with what they do have.


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Postby The Reaper » Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:53 am UTC

Sciencey things.

http://www.physorg.com/

Lasers, Optics, and Photonics news and resources

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Postby Kizyr » Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:27 am UTC

LeopoldBloom wrote:
Kizyr wrote:I was about to mention NPR if no one else would. I've found it to be the best US-based news source, on par with BBC in terms of quality. Of course they have nowhere near the same level of resources, so they can't compete in terms of quality. But they do fantastic with what they do have.


*emphasis mine*

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Er, dangit. I meant to say "so they can't compete in terms of quantity".

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Postby westcydr » Sun Jan 18, 2009 5:57 am UTC

Frankly, the lists say more about the list makers than anything else. If you know the slant, ANY new source can be used reliably, even if only to tell you what did NOT happen.
Also, different news sources slant more and less in different areas.
News sources that in general are not anti-mac, may still jump on the sensationalism of a news story talking about "Mac Viruses", for instance.
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Postby LeopoldBloom » Sun Jan 18, 2009 8:00 am UTC

westcydr wrote:Frankly, the lists say more about the list makers than anything else. If you know the slant, ANY new source can be used reliably, even if only to tell you what did NOT happen.
Also, different news sources slant more and less in different areas.
News sources that in general are not anti-mac, may still jump on the sensationalism of a news story talking about "Mac Viruses", for instance.


Part of the point of this thread is so that people can find out about the slant.
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