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Good books that piss you off

Postby Dustin » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:47 am UTC

For me, the best example of this is Carolyn Jessop's Escape. It's an autobiography from a woman whom was born into the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints. She's forced to be the fourth wife (of ultimately seven) of a man about three times her age, and has eight children.
Now, naturally this book probably has a large number of omissions in the author's favor, but even if ten percent of it is true, it's still a book that makes me really appreciate that I'm a gay heathen. Imagine the only sex partner in your life being a fifty-five year old man who wears long underwear when he has sex with you. Imagine having to live with six other spouses whom are all stressed, repressed from religion, and given pretty much free reign to beat your children.
It's sickening, but it's one of the best books I've ever read.
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Re: Good books that piss you off

Postby poxic » Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:54 am UTC

A Thousand Splendid Suns. Rage-making stuff if you're even remotely a feminist, but still a very good story. I've learned many, many things about Afghanistan from this and the author's other book, The Kite Runner.
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Re: Good books that piss you off

Postby Jahoclave » Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:30 am UTC

Pretty much anything by Achebe or Ngugi; mainly because it just demonstrates how big of dicks Christian missionaries really are, even when they pretend to be doing good works. Turns out, people were getting along just fine without the Western world.

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Postby dg61 » Sun Feb 21, 2010 3:57 am UTC

Jahoclave wrote:Pretty much anything by Achebe or Ngugi; mainly because it just demonstrates how big of dicks Christian missionaries really are, even when they pretend to be doing good works. Turns out, people were getting along just fine without the Western world.

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Re: Good books that piss you off

Postby feedme » Sun Feb 21, 2010 9:21 pm UTC

The last book in particular of the Chronicles of Narnia. I loved pretty much the rest of the series, but the whole last book was just a frustration to me. I felt like it seemed forced the way he finished the series. But that's just me.

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Re: Good books that piss you off

Postby picnic_crossfire » Mon Feb 22, 2010 3:09 am UTC

The Sun Also Rises pissed me off while I was reading it. I wrote in my book "I hate Robert Cohn" at least six times.
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Re: Good books that piss you off

Postby Hurt » Mon Feb 22, 2010 2:58 pm UTC

The man within - Graham Greene.

Nice book, a bit depressing but good character development.

And then the last chapter... The last chapter had to ruin everything. :evil:
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Re: Good books that piss you off

Postby PAstrychef » Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:44 pm UTC

Eliot Pattison's novels about Tibet make me want to beat the Chinese Government upside the head.
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Re: Good books that piss you off

Postby Dustin » Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:11 pm UTC

picnic_crossfire wrote:The Sun Also Rises pissed me off while I was reading it. I wrote in my book "I hate Robert Cohn" at least six times.


A lot of classmates in tenth grade honors English hated it too.
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Postby TommyTumnus » Tue Feb 23, 2010 2:31 am UTC

The Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood.

I wanted to punch something for most of my read-through, or at least until I started calming myself down before picking it up. The end just riled me up again though...

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Re: Good books that piss you off

Postby Ixtellor » Wed Feb 24, 2010 5:56 pm UTC

I mentioned in other treads, but:

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This is the only book I ever put down in anger. I couldn't stand to learn anymore about how badly they manipulated shit to get us into war. It is well written and gives tons of background and detailed information about what DICKS they were.
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Re: Good books that piss you off

Postby hawkmp4 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:20 am UTC

Yes. Hubris did that for me. I almost forgot I read that book.
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Re: Good books that piss you off

Postby RetSpline » Tue Mar 02, 2010 1:23 am UTC

1984 for me. Near the end I knew I didn't have a hope of it having a happy ending, but dammit, I wanted him to win so badly :cry:

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Postby feedme » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:37 am UTC

RetSpline wrote:1984 for me. Near the end I knew I didn't have a hope of it having a happy ending, but dammit, I wanted him to win so badly :cry:



Completely agree! I really wanted them to somehow overcome the government. Some sort of "the fight lives on" kind of message. But no, it was instead a more realistic "government will crush you" message. Depressing :(

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Postby apricity » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:45 am UTC

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. I have NEVER wanted to punch someone as much as I wanted to punch Umbridge. And, come to think of it, Harry when he was being angsty.
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Re: Good books that piss you off

Postby feedme » Tue Mar 02, 2010 4:51 am UTC

lanicita wrote:Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. I have NEVER wanted to punch someone as much as I wanted to punch Umbridge. And, come to think of it, Harry when he was being angsty.


I didn't really like that book either. I mean, it had its moments but it was just kinda slow and boring. But at the end Umbridge did get hers, which made me SO happy. Half Blood Prince was my jam though.

And Deathly Hallows. Half a book of camping in the woods and bickering. Underwhelming.

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Postby Izawwlgood » Tue Mar 02, 2010 5:44 am UTC

Starship Troopers. I remember as I read it going, "Yeah, that makes sense, of course only those who have served in the military should get to vote... Wait... Nonononono..."

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Postby artifex » Thu Mar 04, 2010 6:57 pm UTC

Makers, by Cory Doctorow, which is about 3D printers and theme park rides, and oddly combines modern geek optimism with a sort of world-weary hopelessness-- the characters all start out with a dream of making something interesting or beautiful, get horribly misused or drift away, and then there's never any sort of resolution. So, it's extremely realistic, but sad as hell, and frustrating.

EDIT: While I'm at it: Permutation City, by Greg Egan-- an excellent speculative science fiction book that postulates a really weird and interesting metaphysics, where anything with structure is a pattern, and patterns aren't so much created as discovered by themselves in the infinite "dust" of the multiverse. His characters eventually use this idea to create a new universe, but at the end, something happens that doesn't make any sense in the context of the weird metaphysics-- almost like Egan just got confused and said "F*** it, nobody's going to understand the idea anyway, I might as well treat it like magic."

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Re: Good books that piss you off

Postby Garm » Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:19 pm UTC

The whole Thomas Covenant series. You want to punch the main character in the face so hard for most of each book.
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Postby LuNatic » Fri Mar 05, 2010 7:14 am UTC

World War Z, with the Russian decimations.
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Postby PAstrychef » Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:31 pm UTC

So are we looking for books whose characters are horribly irritating, like Thomas Covenent, or where the story itself pisses you off, like Handmaid's Tale?
Plenty of non-fiction will get the blood roiling, and the kinds of fiction where you wonder (knowing that it's probably really happened somewhere) why people can be such c**nts. I mean, I hated Covenent from very early on, and didn't bother with much of the series, but that was bad writing as much as anything. But the actions taken by the Chinese Government in Tibet, while used in Pattison's fiction, really are horrible and unsupportable, and make me want to give them a taste of their own medicine.
When John Burnigham (I think) wrote a book about the end of the world as we know it and wrote of the entire African continent with one sentence I was pissed off, and when Steven King ended his Dark Tower saga the way he did I was pissed off. Just for completely different reasons.
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Re: Good books that piss you off

Postby Dustin » Mon Mar 08, 2010 11:53 pm UTC

Well, personally, I can never get pissed off at a fictional story.

You could bring what you want or get what you want out of this thread, but I meant books that are well-written that relate situations or stories that anger you.
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Re: Good books that piss you off

Postby feedme » Tue Mar 09, 2010 12:56 am UTC

Dustin wrote:Well, personally, I can never get pissed off at a fictional story.

You could bring what you want or get what you want out of this thread, but I meant books that are well-written that relate situations or stories that anger you.


I typically feel the same way, but throughout a series or even just a book, you naturally start to build expectations of where the book should/will go. So when it does something crazy you don't like, it's natural to get annoyed.

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Postby Czhorat » Tue Mar 09, 2010 11:28 am UTC

Garm wrote:The whole Thomas Covenant series. You want to punch the main character in the face so hard for most of each book.


I'd rather punch the author in the face for trying to manipulate us into forgiving his protagonist for committing rape. It's something that disgusts me about the series to the point that I won't recommend it to others and chose not to purchase the recent followup series.

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Postby sanguine » Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:28 pm UTC

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RetSpline wrote:1984 for me. Near the end I knew I didn't have a hope of it having a happy ending, but dammit, I wanted him to win so badly :cry:



Completely agree! I really wanted them to somehow overcome the government. Some sort of "the fight lives on" kind of message. But no, it was instead a more realistic "government will crush you" message. Depressing :(


Same here.
Although, luckily, Alan Morre gave us V For Vendetta. Which, while not being the most uplifting of stories, at least has the protagonist win against the nightmarish government.

I was rather disappointed with how "Brave New World" turned out. It sort of bumbles along in the end.

Actually, there are quite a few books which are, essentially, brilliant, but oh so depressing...
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Postby feedme » Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:40 pm UTC

sanguine wrote:Although, luckily, Alan Morre gave us V For Vendetta. Which, while not being the most uplifting of stories, at least has the protagonist win against the nightmarish government.


I really liked the V for Vendetta movie, but I never read the comics or whatever it was based off of. And yeah, it doesn't really say "everything's going to be alright" but it shows that people can change things. Whereas 1984 (at least to me) led you on thinking something good was going to happen, and then the inevitable happens. Just didn't sit well with me.

Also, did he ever explain how the fucking "Thought Police" worked? Was that just propaganda to scare people, or could they actually read your thoughts or something?

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Postby sanguine » Tue Mar 16, 2010 4:43 pm UTC

The comic/graphic novel is much, much darker and more complex; also, everything ends in Anarchy. They lightened it up a lot for the movie.

Maybe the Thought Police were simply very skilled psychologists?
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Postby CorruptUser » Thu Mar 18, 2010 1:32 am UTC

Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand and The Innocents Abroad by Mark Twain/Samuel Clemmens.

While I don't adhere to Objectivism (I'm somewhere between Pragmatism and Libertarianism), it's amazing just how many people fit the description of Rand's Looters and Moochers. How many people do you know that are always saying that they've never been given a chance, that everything bad that happened to them is not their fault? ~Shrugged also makes you think twice about any form of government regulation.

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Postby mmmcannibalism » Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:25 am UTC

Also, did he ever explain how the fucking "Thought Police" worked? Was that just propaganda to scare people, or could they actually read your thoughts or something?


Video screens in the walls, monitored people while they slept, cameras everywhere to watch for odd behavior or anything said. The thought police idea was saying people were monitored to the point they were practically having their thoughts read.
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Postby feedme » Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:11 pm UTC

mmmcannibalism wrote:Video screens in the walls, monitored people while they slept, cameras everywhere to watch for odd behavior or anything said. The thought police idea was saying people were monitored to the point they were practically having their thoughts read.



That's what I would've thought, but I didn't know if they could legitimately read thoughts. I wonder if anyone in real life does Wilson's (I think that's his name) job.

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Postby Sir_Elderberry » Sun Mar 21, 2010 3:57 am UTC

Well, the real point of the Thought Police is the concept of thoughtcrime. You don't have to do anything in Oceania to be horribly tortured or killed, you simply have to think "incorrectly". They're not the Thought Police because they read thoughts; they're the Thought Police because they punish them.
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Postby SurgicalSteel » Sun Mar 21, 2010 4:00 am UTC

Monster of God - amazing book, recommended whole-heartedly. But there are a few points, such as when he's talking about the poaching of Siberian tigers or the bear drives in Romania, and it's just like, Christ, I want to shoot Ceausescu in the face all over again.
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Postby Furburt » Wed Apr 14, 2010 2:20 pm UTC

Ooh, it would have to be Straw Dogs by John Gray. An amazingly misanthropic book, he basically tears humanism to shreds, using fact after fact to prove that humans are as dumb as every other animal. It's fascinating, but very depressing, especially if you happen to be a human, like me.

Definitely worth a look though, if only to end this whole 'Humans are great!' thing, because it's starting to become a bit annoying.
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Re: Good books that piss you off

Postby Sockmonkey » Wed Apr 14, 2010 6:51 pm UTC

Animal Farm was annoying in that once the ball got rolling you could clearly see each step towards dictatorship/facism but none of the animals realized what was really happening untill it was too late. I was all like "Kill that little pig bastard!"

Also in Piers Anthony's "For Love Of Evil" the protagonist is a mortal man who gets the job of being the new Devil. In the course of the story he causes untold suffering and at one point is ousted from the job and is replaced by guy who is a pedophile. This is a pretty blatant attempt to make us still favor the main character over the new guy by saying "Hey he may cause the death and suffering of millions (including children) but at least he doesn't touch them directly himself!" Playing the squick factor like that was just too contrived to work.

Also most of Hienlien's stuff. Sometimes it seems like he's being an apologist for mankind being a dick to itself.

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Postby Aardvarki » Fri Apr 16, 2010 8:54 pm UTC

feedme wrote:I wonder if anyone in real life does Wilson's (I think that's his name) job.

You mean Winston? Re-writing history? Sure, we call them THE MEDIA.

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Postby Banksy » Fri Apr 30, 2010 8:27 am UTC

I get like that with Orson Scott Card; some of his narratives are brilliant (well by some I mostly mean just Ender's Game), but you can feel in some places his homophobic tendancies seeping through.
Could just be me being paranoid, but those books get me angry :x
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Re: Good books that piss you off

Postby BurningLed » Fri Apr 30, 2010 12:33 pm UTC

Animal Farm, like 1984, has that same "Evil gov't wins" message. It's kind of Orwell's thing, really.
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Re: Good books that piss you off

Postby Dustin » Fri Apr 30, 2010 3:45 pm UTC

BurningLed wrote:Animal Farm, like 1984, has that same "Evil gov't wins" message. It's kind of Orwell's thing, really.


To be fair, when Orwell wrote it, the government he was talking about pretty much had won.
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