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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Eebster the Great » Fri Mar 18, 2011 10:52 pm UTC

Iulus Cofield wrote:Or you can just pick your own pseudonyms or change your name as an adult.

Absolutely. You can even layer them. Consider Hannah Montana, whose "real" name is Miley Ray Cyrus, except her real, legal name is actually Destiny Hope Cyrus.

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby The Scyphozoa » Wed Apr 27, 2011 5:56 pm UTC

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Iulus Cofield wrote:Or you can just pick your own pseudonyms or change your name as an adult.

Absolutely. You can even layer them. Consider Hannah Montana, whose "real" name is Miley Ray Cyrus, except her real, legal name is actually Destiny Hope Cyrus.

No, there's another layer. On the show, Hannah Montana is her stage name, and her "real" name is Miley but some other surname and WHY THE FUCK DO I KNOW THIS?
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby TheChewanater » Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:43 pm UTC

No, Hannah Montana's real name is Miley Stewart, who is really Miley Cyrus, who is really Destiny Hope Cyrus.

You guys need to watch Disney Channel more.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby The Scyphozoa » Wed Apr 27, 2011 11:25 pm UTC

TheChewanater wrote:No, Hannah Montana's real name is Miley Stewart, who is really Miley Cyrus, who is really Destiny Hope Cyrus.

You guys need to watch Disney Channel more.

That's what I said. On the show her "real" name is Miley Stewart. I just couldn't remember what the name actually was.

Also, Billy Ray Cyrus wouldn't even use his real first name, going by "Robb(y/ie?) Ray Stewart" on the show.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Ley » Sun May 01, 2011 8:37 am UTC

pkuky wrote:calulus. definately a kid named calculus.
well, that is actually a name in hebrew.


I speak fluent hebrew, and I've never heard of that. קלקולוס? or do you mean אינפי? neither are hebrew, and neither mean anything in hebrew.

I do however know of a girl named akhzava (אכזבה). it means dissapointment. her parents named her that because she wasn't a boy. I can't imagine that many worse things to name someone.

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Ley » Mon May 02, 2011 12:12 pm UTC

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Bobber wrote:My mother's landlord has a daughter named Storm.


All I can think of is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0W7Jbc_Vhw.



I'm currently at work, so youtube is blocked, but can I safely say that you refer to the almighty genious that is Tim Minchin's Storm? if not, everyone here should watch it. everyone.

also, I just spent two work days going through all the pages here. I'm not done yet, but I still have some time before my worday is over.... Anyway, lemonjello/orangejello/le-sha/etc etc aside, it's quite fun seeing all the odd names. and the phonetic discussions are very interesting :D

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Monika » Mon May 02, 2011 5:47 pm UTC

Yep, the video's title is Tim Minchin - Storm.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Iulus Cofield » Mon May 02, 2011 9:45 pm UTC

A friend of mine's middle name is Storm. His first name is really ordinary and normal, though.

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Ley » Tue May 03, 2011 10:12 am UTC

Red Rule wrote:I know someone with the last name 'de beer' (dutch for 'the bear')
now as awesome as that may sound on it's own, he insists on calling his son Wil.
'Wilde' in dutch means 'wild' in english, so the kid will be Wild Bear.


I thought I'd point out that in Yiddish the word "beer" sounds a lot like "breeyeh" (not how you spell it, Yiddish uses Hebrew letters). "breeyeh" means being, and the phrase "Wilde Breeyeh" (W like in German- a english V sound) is used to describe someone who is acting wild, being rude and loud, etc. it's not exactly the same, but it's still funny...

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby mojacardave » Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:55 am UTC

lira_riu wrote:As I grew older, I became frustrated that my mother did not use her opportunity to name any of her kids with the initials DNA or RNA -- she and my dad are both chemistry teachers, but both of my brothers and I are no where near : JTA, KRA, PCA. Oh well. I, unfortunately, will most likely not have the same chance.

My sister and brother are named Nicola and Andrew, so, in order of birth, our first names spell out DNA. This is a coincidence: there is no way in hell my parents named us with a chemistry joke...

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby mojacardave » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:15 am UTC

Madame Sourire wrote:Are these names really stupid?
Boys:
Chase
Trent
Christian

Girls:
Madison
Darcey Rose
Lindy
Marianne


I will just comment that almost every gay porn star in the last 5 years has used one of the following stage names:

Chase, Trent, Brent, Tyler, Casey or Cody
Something with a Z in it
Something with an X in it
Something with a K in it

I think there may be more gay porn stars using some of these names than actual boys with them as birth names. Especially the odd ones like Kyler, Skylar, Zeke etc.

As an additional note, I have a work colleague who just named his kid Felix. Yes, it fails my pornstar test, but I think it's really cute anyway.

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby AvatarIII » Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:57 pm UTC

mojacardave wrote:
Madame Sourire wrote:Are these names really stupid?
Boys:
Chase
Trent
Christian

Girls:
Madison
Darcey Rose
Lindy
Marianne


I will just comment that almost every gay porn star in the last 5 years has used one of the following stage names:

Chase, Trent, Brent, Tyler, Casey or Cody
Something with a Z in it
Something with an X in it
Something with a K in it

I think there may be more gay porn stars using some of these names than actual boys with them as birth names. Especially the odd ones like Kyler, Skylar, Zeke etc.

As an additional note, I have a work colleague who just named his kid Felix. Yes, it fails my pornstar test, but I think it's really cute anyway.


Felix is clearly a cat's name....

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby mojacardave » Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:25 pm UTC

AvatarIII wrote:Felix is clearly a cat's name....


Which is the obvious downside, but I can't see the Felix brandname and adverts lasting until the kid is old enough to be bullied for them. Internationalisation will see to that. A pesky consonant like 'X' won't survive indefinitely in a brand name.

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby AvatarIII » Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:41 pm UTC

mojacardave wrote:
AvatarIII wrote:Felix is clearly a cat's name....


Which is the obvious downside, but I can't see the Felix brandname and adverts lasting until the kid is old enough to be bullied for them. Internationalisation will see to that. A pesky vowel like 'X' won't survive indefinitely in a brand name.


it's bad enough they took our Js now they want our Xs? (oh and you mean consonant right?)

but to me, I see the name Felix, I think of cats.

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby mojacardave » Wed Jul 06, 2011 1:45 pm UTC

AvatarIII wrote:
mojacardave wrote:
AvatarIII wrote:Felix is clearly a cat's name....


Which is the obvious downside, but I can't see the Felix brandname and adverts lasting until the kid is old enough to be bullied for them. Internationalisation will see to that. A pesky vowel like 'X' won't survive indefinitely in a brand name.


it's bad enough they took our Js now they want our Xs? (oh and you mean consonant right?)

but to me, I see the name Felix, I think of cats.


Holy crap! How did I do that?! Yes, a million times yes. I meant consonant...

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Eebster the Great » Wed Jul 06, 2011 4:39 pm UTC

Felix is probably still a better name than Fritz, though.

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Iulus Cofield » Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:05 pm UTC

mojacardave wrote:I think there may be more gay porn stars using some of these names than actual boys with them as birth names. Especially the odd ones like Kyler, Skylar, Zeke etc


My nephews name is Kyler and I've known a couple of Zekes and Skylers/Skylars. I'm under the unverified impression that these names have just become more popular in recent decades.

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby The Scyphozoa » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:16 pm UTC

Corky Booze. It's pronounced "boo-zay". But, you know, the first and last names kind of fit together, don't they?
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby bigglesworth » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:25 pm UTC

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby The Scyphozoa » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:42 pm UTC

Well, no. This guy.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Iulus Cofield » Wed Jul 13, 2011 7:47 pm UTC

Who is that guy?

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby The Scyphozoa » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:01 pm UTC

He's Corky Booze! http://corkyforcouncil.net

I guess this isn't a "think before naming your child", more like "think before picking a nickname". But still, it's a funny name.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Eebster the Great » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:18 pm UTC

Technically his name is Boozé, but I'm sure it frequently is rendered without the accent.

What is his actual first name (assuming Corky isn't)?

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby The Scyphozoa » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:43 pm UTC

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Gigano » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:53 am UTC

In the Netherlands, a national radio station (3FM) annually holds a "schaamnaam" (embarrassing name) competition. Last year several entries were (and I kid you not, these are confirmed to be real names of real people):

1) Con Domen (condomen = condoms in Dutch).
2) Piet Saman (peet-za-màn = pizza man).
3) Justin Case

In 2009, the winner was 'Fokje Modder' which is a sort of Anglicised version of "Fuck your mother". Another great entry of that year was a Mrs. Onderwater (underwater), who had married a Mr. Verdwaald (lost), and whose full name became Mrs. Verdwaald-Onderwater (lost underwater).
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Eebster the Great » Thu Jul 14, 2011 1:33 pm UTC

I for one would be ok with the name "Pizza Man."

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Adventurejimbob » Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:27 pm UTC

Haven't read the whole thread (someone probably already mentioned this guy), but this one makes me laugh every time I see him play:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D'Brickashaw_Ferguson

I also knew an Indian kid named Balwinder, unfortunately it wasn't pronounced in the more humorous way.

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby casualevils » Sat Jul 16, 2011 12:40 pm UTC

My dad works with a guy who named his daughter Crystal Shanda Lear

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby ShootTheChicken » Wed Jul 27, 2011 5:06 pm UTC

Two girls I went to school with:

Ocean Poo
Sandy Poon

Non-English speaking parents should be careful when giving English names to their children.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Monika » Wed Jul 27, 2011 10:43 pm UTC

What's the joke or pun?
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby The Scyphozoa » Wed Jul 27, 2011 11:24 pm UTC

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Makri » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:41 pm UTC

And what do non-English-speaking parents giving their children English names have to do with this? What's wrong with Sandy and Ocean (although the latter does sound ridiculous to European ears, I reckon, but not to an American)? To me, this looks like the problematic words were the children's south-east Asian family names...
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Carlington » Thu Jul 28, 2011 1:44 pm UTC

The problem was that the parents didn't realise how poorly the English names they chose would combine with the Asian surnames.
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Makri » Thu Jul 28, 2011 6:38 pm UTC

Ah, my brain finally realized that "Sandy" can be parsed as a denominal adjective...
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Eebster the Great » Fri Jul 29, 2011 3:21 am UTC

Makri wrote:Ah, my brain finally realized that "Sandy" can be parsed as a denominal adjective...

I didn't realize "Sandy Poon" really required a lot of explanation . . .

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby mojacardave » Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:38 am UTC

Iulus Cofield wrote:
mojacardave wrote:I think there may be more gay porn stars using some of these names than actual boys with them as birth names. Especially the odd ones like Kyler, Skylar, Zeke etc


My nephews name is Kyler and I've known a couple of Zekes and Skylers/Skylars. I'm under the unverified impression that these names have just become more popular in recent decades.


Where do you live out of interest? I'm imagining some kind of American, coastal, metrosexual, film-studio-filled area (and if that is the case, I'm mildly jealous).

They sort of strike me as names that teenagers want to have (hence the porn thing), so in Britain at least, the really 'exotic' names only tend be used as birth names by the underage parents on council estates. Wow, that sentence could not have been more snobby.

I really love them as pseudonyms, but I could never name a kid Skyler, just because it's a hell of a name to fill. You'd have to be confident to actually pull it off. I'm imagining some slightly overweight guy working in a B&Q in Leeds, with a Skyler name badge. It just doesn't work... :lol:

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby mojacardave » Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:51 am UTC

animeHrmIne wrote:Eh, Artemis Fowl is a boy and Narcissa Malfoy is a woman.


The problem is, sometimes uncommon names just SOUND like they're for the wrong gender. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a male name ending in 'a'. Maybe it's just because I've studied Spanish a bit, but I reckon that if you knew nothing of mythology and heard the name Narcissa, you'd assume it was feminine.

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Lazar » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:37 am UTC

mojacardave wrote:Off the top of my head, I can't think of a male name ending in 'a'.

Italian has masculine names ending in 'a' (e.g. Andrea, Elia, Luca), mostly resulting from Greek '-as' with the 's' deleted. Also, pretty much every masculine (and feminine) Russian name has a hypocoristic form ending in 'a' - e.g. Yasha (Yakov), Sasha (Aleksandr), Kolya (Nikolai), Petya (Pyotr), Pasha (Pavel), Volodya (Vladimir), Vanya (Ivan), as well as the proper name Ilya. Sanskrit had masculine in '-a' and feminine in '-i', yielding masculine names like Rama, Shiva, Brahma and Ganesha (all deities).
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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby Monika » Fri Jul 29, 2011 10:41 am UTC

mojacardave wrote:Off the top of my head, I can't think of a male name ending in 'a'.

Joshua.
Sas[c]ha is mostly a male first name here (Germany) and in Eastern Europe (but it can be a female name, too).
In Italy, Andrea is a male name.
Ananda is an Indian male name.
I had a male classmate with the name Rana, I don't know his ethnic background, it may have been Indian.

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Re: Think Before Naming Your Child

Postby AvatarIII » Fri Jul 29, 2011 2:00 pm UTC

mojacardave wrote:
animeHrmIne wrote:Eh, Artemis Fowl is a boy and Narcissa Malfoy is a woman.


The problem is, sometimes uncommon names just SOUND like they're for the wrong gender. Off the top of my head, I can't think of a male name ending in 'a'. Maybe it's just because I've studied Spanish a bit, but I reckon that if you knew nothing of mythology and heard the name Narcissa, you'd assume it was feminine.


i definately associate -a names with females and -us or -o names as their male counterparts.


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