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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby Dason » Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:01 pm UTC

You, sir, name? wrote:5000 post anniversary 20 posts ago. How did I miss that?!

It was actually even more posts ago than that!
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Postby You, sir, name? » Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:25 pm UTC

Dason wrote:
You, sir, name? wrote:5000 post anniversary 20 posts ago. How did I miss that?!

It was actually even more posts ago than that!


Now it's even more wrong! When will this madness end?!
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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby slbub » Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:26 pm UTC

not soon enough?

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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby SurgicalSteel » Thu Sep 08, 2011 3:53 am UTC

Whenever people talk about living off of Ramen during college they never tell you that, yea, after you graduate, you'll still be doing that while you pay off student loans and look for a job, at least until you get a few solid paychecks under your belt.
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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby Steax » Thu Sep 08, 2011 4:58 am UTC

I wonder why people tend to think they'll get married and have good food 3 times a day immediately after graduating.

In other news, I was bored so I tried out... cleverbot.

Cleverbot: I have a house. But I don't have much food in it.

User: Ever considered building a vegetable garden?

Cleverbot: Yes, but I haven't the time.

User: How come?

Cleverbot: I don't know. But I become scared.

User: What?

Cleverbot: I don't know if I have claws because I am a bear and bears don't think if they have claws or not because they are bears.

User: Yeah, now you're scaring me.

Cleverbot: Good. I wouldn't want to not.

User: Ooooookay this is getting creepy.

Cleverbot: A creeper?! Where!? Hide!


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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby You, sir, name? » Thu Sep 08, 2011 2:31 pm UTC

Maintain: /meɪnˈteɪn/
Maintenance: /ˈmeɪntənəns/

What gives?
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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby SlyReaper » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:28 pm UTC

The English language is a bit tough like that. I guess we just plough through it and try not to let our brains turn to dough in the process.
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Postby Microscopic cog » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:30 pm UTC

Once at a lecture the teacher told us there were like 15 different spellings for one phoneme. English's wacky.
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Postby You, sir, name? » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:13 pm UTC

SlyReaper wrote:The English language is a bit tough like that. I guess we just plough through it and try not to let our brains turn to dough in the process.


But in this case, it's different forms of the same word.
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Postby Angua » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:28 pm UTC

I'm still trying to figure out why on earth we've now decided to let 'pressurised' enter the English language. What was wrong with pressured????
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Postby SlyReaper » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:30 pm UTC

Because "pressured oxygen container" sounds silly.
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Postby Angua » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:31 pm UTC

Fair enough, but now the bbc is all 'X is feelling pressurised to do y'. It drives me nuts.
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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby emceng » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:56 pm UTC

Angua wrote:Fair enough, but now the bbc is all 'X is feelling pressurised to do y'. It drives me nuts.


See, that's not real language use, that's "I'm a talking head trying to look smart, so I used big words improperly."
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Postby DSenette » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:03 pm UTC

emceng wrote:
Angua wrote:Fair enough, but now the bbc is all 'X is feelling pressurised to do y'. It drives me nuts.


See, that's not real language use, that's "I'm a talking head trying to look smart, so I used big words improperly."

yeah, sounds like jeremy clarkson from Top Gear
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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby e^iπ+1=0 » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:12 pm UTC

emceng wrote:
Angua wrote:Fair enough, but now the bbc is all 'X is feelling pressurised to do y'. It drives me nuts.


See, that's not real language use, that's "I'm a talking head trying to look smart, so I used big words improperly."

Exactly. Pressurized refers to a gas being put under pressure, pressured refers to a person or other entity metaphorically being put under pressure.
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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby slbub » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:20 pm UTC

WATER PRESSURE

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Postby Microscopic cog » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:40 pm UTC

This iiiiiiiis ooooooooooouuuuuuuuurseeeeeelves.
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Postby Magnanimous » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:42 pm UTC

Under pressure... That burns a building down, splits a family in two, puts people on streets?

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Postby Xeio » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:46 pm UTC

slbub wrote:WATER PRESSURE
You can put air under pressure, and then it becomes pressurized. English isn't hard, just arbitrary! :P

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Postby Viae » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:46 pm UTC

Magnanimous wrote:Under pressure... That burns a building down, splits a family in two, puts people on streets?

Badabedumdey.
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Postby You, sir, name? » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:50 pm UTC

The way I see it, if you pressurize something, you increase the pressure inside some sort of fixed-sized vessel (by increasing the temperature or number of particles), but if you apply pressure to something, you're increasing the pressure with an external force (like in a vise) without directly doing stuff to the contents (even though indirectly they will change).
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Postby kingofdreams » Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:19 am UTC

1500-1600 GRE I'm going to go burn some books now.
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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby deskjethp » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:06 am UTC

I was pressured into doing something.
If I was pressurized into doing something that something would probably be fitting through a small hole or something.

Pressurized makes sense to me, though that is probably because I've always used it...

So anyway, I love to wander around and go places that I theoretically shouldn't go. It's amazing where you can get if you look like you are supposed to be there or wander in and say you were just looking around. It gives me a sense of privilege knowing that 'normal people' (most people) probably won't see it. People don't have much "Let's go exploring!" in them. If a door isn't locked I like to wander in and see what's going on. If I wasn't supposed to be in there, the door would be locked. I won't go in if the sign says something like: DANGER ASBESTOS or something though. I like the back stairs / hallways / deserted conference rooms / back elevators that no one uses....
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Re: Screechings of the Great Unwashed (Meander to the Morgue

Postby fizzgig » Fri Sep 09, 2011 7:54 am UTC

You, sir, name? wrote:Maintain: /meɪnˈteɪn/
Maintenance: /ˈmeɪntənəns/

What gives?


It's (probably) because they've got a different number of syllables and the number of syllables affects where the stress is in the word... I guess...
Like the difference between pronounce and pronunciation. Possibly.

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Postby You, sir, name? » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:40 am UTC

fizzgig wrote:
You, sir, name? wrote:Maintain: /meɪnˈteɪn/
Maintenance: /ˈmeɪntənəns/

What gives?


It's (probably) because they've got a different number of syllables and the number of syllables affects where the stress is in the word... I guess...
Like the difference between pronounce and pronunciation. Possibly.


Like attain and attainment?
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Postby dumbzebra » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:34 am UTC

SlyReaper wrote:The English language is a bit tough like that. I guess we just plough through it and try not to let our brains turn to dough in the process.


The English language rapes vowels. Nothing is spoken like it's written. Seriously, fix it people.
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Postby Angua » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:39 am UTC

Vowels aren't that bad. I get annoyed when people talk about the random silent e's on the end of sentences, and don't realise that they are there to modify the vowel sound. Rat vs rate, met vs mete sit vs site - e makes it a long sound.
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Postby dumbzebra » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:52 am UTC

e=ee or eh
oo= u
u= oo or uh
a= aye or ah or aww
kn=n
ough=uff or ouu
ea= uhhh or ee
ou=ouu or oh
on= on or won
hau=aww*

*list not exhaustive

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Vowels aren't that bad. I get annoyed when people talk about the random silent e's on the end of sentences, and don't realise that they are there to modify the vowel sound. Rat vs rate, met vs mete sit vs site - e makes it a long sound.


That's exactly the point. Instead of changing the sound that is actually meant (in case of rat/rate, the 'a'-part) you add another letter at the end,
You simply could write rait (like raid), but no...
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Postby Microscopic cog » Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:10 pm UTC

dumbzebra wrote:
SlyReaper wrote:The English language is a bit tough like that. I guess we just plough through it and try not to let our brains turn to dough in the process.


The English language rapes vowels. Nothing is spoken like it's written. Seriously, fix it people.


That's because they're still using the same spelling as hundreds of years ago. Pronunciation has changed, but the spelling has not.
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Postby Steax » Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:21 pm UTC

Is Adobe "a-dob" or "a-dob-y"? Is skype "skaip" or "skai-py"? Is it "Twee-ter" (ee as in 'eat') or is it "twit-ter" (as in 'it')?
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Postby Angua » Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:39 pm UTC

Well, Adobe doesn't count because it's a name, and I don't think an English one at that. Skype doens't really deviate much. Twitter has two tts before the e which signifies the i stays short.
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Postby dumbzebra » Fri Sep 09, 2011 12:51 pm UTC

German only has two such incidences:

  • 'St' is sometimes spoken 'sht' (or 'scht' as it is written)
  • 'h' behind a vowel makes the vowel being pronounced long: 'ah'='aaa'
Other than that, everything is spoken as written.
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Postby Steax » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:05 pm UTC

Angua wrote:Well, Adobe doesn't count because it's a name, and I don't think an English one at that. Skype doens't really deviate much. Twitter has two tts before the e which signifies the i stays short.


No, I mean I'm asking how you're supposed to pronounce it. I've heard people use all those pronunciations before, and I lose geek points for not knowing.
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Postby You, sir, name? » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:42 pm UTC

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Postby Microscopic cog » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:43 pm UTC

Wikipedia wrote:
Adobe: /əˈdoʊbiː/ ə-doh-bee

Skype: /ˈskaɪp/


Twitter /twɪtæ/ would be British English, not sure, but Twit-uhr is probably fine.
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Postby Deva » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:45 pm UTC

dumbzebra wrote:The English language rapes vowels. Nothing is spoken like it's written. Seriously, fix it people.

Please refrain from using the word "rape" unless you mean the actual act.
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Postby podbaydoor » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:49 pm UTC

Adobe is an actual word, so you can look it up? It refers to a building material and style used by indigenous peoples in the Southwest US/Mexico, and later on by Spanish settlers. It's pronounced "ah-DOH-bee."

Skype is pronounced "skaip."

Twitter is pronounced like the word.
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Postby tastelikecoke » Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:00 pm UTC

Seriously, why would you rait a wǝrd dat dasent saund laik haw its riten?

And the silent letters, I fail to understand why should we write them in the first place...

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Postby Felstaff » Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:03 pm UTC

If you were in Nairobi
You would call it "Adobe"
But some people 'round the globe
Well, they call it "Adobe"
Some don't stress, (like "pot-pourri")
The 'o' in "Adobe"
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Postby broken_escalator » Fri Sep 09, 2011 3:11 pm UTC

I prefer to call it a doobie.


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