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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby Dr. Diaphanous » Tue Oct 11, 2011 1:22 pm UTC

exempli grātiā = for the sake of an example. The lines are used in Latin to differentiate a long vowel from a short one.
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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby e^iπ+1=0 » Tue Oct 11, 2011 4:11 pm UTC

Wiktionary wrote:Abbreviation of Latin exempli gratiā (“for example”). Gratiā here is in the ablative case which is translated into the prepositional phrase "for the sake". Exempli is a genitive case noun meaning "of example". Therefore, the full phrase is "for the sake of example".[1] Previously abbreviated to ex. gr.


The lines seem somewhat inconsitent. If you go to the page for the full phrase, you'll see that it claims it should be spelled exemplī grātiā, but on the page for e.g. it's exempli gratiā. And Dr. Diaphanous used exempli grātiā. So who knows?

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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby Magnanimous » Wed Oct 12, 2011 3:44 am UTC

The only time I actually care about the macrons is when they change the meaning of a word. See: liber (book, as in library) versus līber (free, as in liberty).

But... Unless you're majoring in Latin, you can just ignore them.

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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby M1k3_Nix » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:03 am UTC

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My own one, this christmas, was seeing the bear in the Toblerone logo. Noone I've shown it to has ever seen it before.



Whow! That's so cool. When I read your post, I was imagining how could the Toblerone bear (as I call it) can be hidden behind one of the letters with one of its eyes peaking. It turns out its not hidden. It never was. This is so cool! I'm actually smiling right now. I bet anybody I'll show it to will just be as surprised as I am right now. :P


Wow, thats actually stunned me. How have I never noticed that :O

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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby TimelordSimone » Fri Oct 14, 2011 1:38 am UTC

It is a good job I don't eat Toblerones, because I will never be able to not see that ever again.
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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby the_bandersnatch » Fri Oct 14, 2011 10:50 am UTC

You're right, the bear in the Toblerone is obvious once you see it, and I can't believe it was such a famous character too!

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Postby emceng » Tue Oct 18, 2011 12:55 pm UTC

Sir, sire. Dame, dam.

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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby eev » Sun Oct 30, 2011 8:53 am UTC

Realised ages ago that almost everyone has this weird hairless spot on the elbow. Just kind of around from the boney bit. I noticed it out of the blue on my friend and I just have no clue why it is there. I haven't found anyone without it, and I have no clue what causes it.
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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby Magnanimous » Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:42 am UTC

The word "couple". If you couple two things together, you have a couple of things. (Presumably the "amount" meaning came from the "connect" meaning.)

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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby UniqueScreenname » Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:06 pm UTC

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I... didn't get that one.

(I was afraid to say "catch" that one because I thought it might turn out to be a pun somehow. Now I'm paranoid of unintentional puns.

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Postby Ptolom » Tue Nov 01, 2011 5:53 pm UTC

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I... didn't get that one.

(I was afraid to say "catch" that one because I thought it might turn out to be a pun somehow. Now I'm paranoid of unintentional puns.

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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby UniqueScreenname » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:08 am UTC

Why thank you.

A while ago I figured out that the word vile is the word evil with the e at the end. :shock: Then I thought about it more and realized evil, vile, villain, villify, and *possibly* violent all had the same root. HHINNTB?
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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby e^iπ+1=0 » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:27 am UTC

Probably because they're not actually from the same root?

evil: Old English yfel, from Proto-Germanic *ubilaz, from Proto-Indo-European *h2/3upélos
vile: early 13c. from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. vile, from L. vilis
villain: used to mean a low level of serfdom and in that sense is c.1300 from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. villain, from M.L. villanus, from L. villa; its modern meaning came about in 1822
vilify: this one is, in fact, from the same root as vile
violent: late 13c. from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. violence, from L. violentia, from violentus, probably related to violare

So yeah, only two of those are really the same.
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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby TheChewanater » Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:14 am UTC

deluxe = de-lux = of luxury.

I just noticed that the other day. Online etymology dictionaries seem too agree with me.
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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby You, sir, name? » Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:27 pm UTC

I would thought that would be "of light".
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Postby Ptolom » Wed Nov 02, 2011 7:44 pm UTC

You, sir, name? wrote:I would thought that would be "of light".

I always thought "lux" was a portmanteau of "luminous" and "flux".

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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby UniqueScreenname » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:24 am UTC

e^iπ+1=0 wrote:Probably because they're not actually from the same root?

evil: Old English yfel, from Proto-Germanic *ubilaz, from Proto-Indo-European *h2/3upélos
vile: early 13c. from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. vile, from L. vilis
villain: used to mean a low level of serfdom and in that sense is c.1300 from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. villain, from M.L. villanus, from L. villa; its modern meaning came about in 1822
vilify: this one is, in fact, from the same root as vile
violent: late 13c. from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. violence, from L. violentia, from violentus, probably related to violare

So yeah, only two of those are really the same.


So, it's a coincidence that all of these words that seem to have the same origins have the same general connotation? I think that's insane. Not insane as in I don't believe you, but insane like things that convenient shouldn't be coincidences.
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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby EmptySet » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:40 am UTC

UniqueScreenname wrote:
e^iπ+1=0 wrote:Probably because they're not actually from the same root?

evil: Old English yfel, from Proto-Germanic *ubilaz, from Proto-Indo-European *h2/3upélos
vile: early 13c. from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. vile, from L. vilis
villain: used to mean a low level of serfdom and in that sense is c.1300 from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. villain, from M.L. villanus, from L. villa; its modern meaning came about in 1822
vilify: this one is, in fact, from the same root as vile
violent: late 13c. from Anglo-Fr. and O.Fr. violence, from L. violentia, from violentus, probably related to violare

So yeah, only two of those are really the same.


So, it's a coincidence that all of these words that seem to have the same origins have the same general connotation? I think that's insane. Not insane as in I don't believe you, but insane like things that convenient shouldn't be coincidences.


English has a lot of words from various places. I think it's somewhat inevitable that those kind of coincidences will occur occasionally. Plus there are plenty of other vil- words which aren't violence-related - violin, violet, village, villa... also vial, which in modern times at least is pronounced the same as "vile".

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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby e^iπ+1=0 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:43 am UTC

evil: definitely not related

vile and vilify: actually from the same root, vilis, which means more or less "cheap, worthless, base, common"

violent: came about during roughly the same time from the same languages, although from the roots violentia and violentus, meaning "vehemence, impetuosity, forcible"

villain: again, same time and languages, but villa means "country house, farm"; I haven't been able to find more details on the modern meaning switch


But, is it an accident that in the 1200s English got a bunch of French and Latin thrown in? Nope.
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Postby UniqueScreenname » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:19 pm UTC

EmptySet wrote:
English has a lot of words from various places. I think it's somewhat inevitable that those kind of coincidences will occur occasionally. Plus there are plenty of other vil- words which aren't violence-related - violin, violet, village, villa... also vial, which in modern times at least is pronounced the same as "vile".


I understand that not every word with vil- or viol- is related. Not every word with bi- has something to do with 2 or halves. I just found these words that seemed to be very connected, and apparently I was wrong. I can admit that. I've learned from this.
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Postby kaimason1 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:53 pm UTC

e^iπ+1=0 wrote:The lines seem somewhat inconsitent. If you go to the page for the full phrase, you'll see that it claims it should be spelled exemplī grātiā, but on the page for e.g. it's exempli gratiā. And Dr. Diaphanous used exempli grātiā. So who knows?


Actually, the lines don't exist at all in real Latin. Neither did spaces, punctuation, or lowercase. All of these things were introduced for the sake of clarity and distinction between words or, more often, distinction between cases, especially between the ablative and dative cases, which are often the same. The use of long marks is, therefore, rather inconsistent, because there are no formal rules about how to use them. For example, generally the only time I would ever use them would be to distinguish between case endings, while others may not use them at all or use them all over the place; In poetry, due to scansion, their use may even have less to do with the word and a lot more to do with the placement of the word in the poem.
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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby Menacing Spike » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:59 pm UTC

TheChewanater wrote:deluxe = de-lux = of luxury.

I just noticed that the other day. Online etymology dictionaries seem too agree with me.


The french for "deluxe" is "de luxe", which means "of very high quality and price". (luxe = luxury)

Luxure is an older world meaning hot, sinful sex.

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Postby rigwarl » Wed Nov 09, 2011 4:41 pm UTC

Not to be confused with righteous, boring sex.

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Postby pseudoidiot » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:18 pm UTC

"Frigidaire" brand of refrigerators and freezers.

Frigid + air.

Last night was the first time I'd ever spoken it aloud and until then I'd never made that connection.
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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby Samik » Mon Nov 21, 2011 8:38 pm UTC

I posted this one in a comic discussion thread once upon a time, but it definitely fits here:


One of my worst dawn-rises-over-marblehead moments was when I first realized the double meaning in that Kay Jewelers jingle: "Every kiss begins with Kay".

I always interpreted it as 'Buying things at Kay's leads to kisses'. After about a decade of hearing those stupid commercials in the background, it finally dawned on me that 'kiss' does, in fact, begin with 'k'.




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Postby bluebambue » Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:32 am UTC

Samik wrote:I posted this one in a comic discussion thread once upon a time, but it definitely fits here:


One of my worst dawn-rises-over-marblehead moments was when I first realized the double meaning in that Kay Jewelers jingle: "Every kiss begins with Kay".

I always interpreted it as 'Buying things at Kay's leads to kisses'. After about a decade of hearing those stupid commercials in the background, it finally dawned on me that 'kiss' does, in fact, begin with 'k'.
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Postby Magnanimous » Tue Nov 22, 2011 3:53 am UTC

bluebambue wrote:
Samik wrote:I posted this one in a comic discussion thread once upon a time, but it definitely fits here:


One of my worst dawn-rises-over-marblehead moments was when I first realized the double meaning in that Kay Jewelers jingle: "Every kiss begins with Kay".

I always interpreted it as 'Buying things at Kay's leads to kisses'. After about a decade of hearing those stupid commercials in the background, it finally dawned on me that 'kiss' does, in fact, begin with 'k'.
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Postby Shivahn » Tue Nov 22, 2011 4:04 am UTC

As a kid I heard that commercial on the radio, and told my parents "Not French kiss!"

I thought I was especially clever at the time.

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Neonate

Neo - new
Nate - born

Neonate = newborn
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Postby Ptolom » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:24 pm UTC

I'm operating an incredibly advanced electronic device right now, and yet my grasp of electrodynamics is flaky at best! I suddenly feel like I'm cheating at this. There's a machine which is effectively shooting beta particles at my face. I know it's something about a heated cathode in a vacuum, with magnets to control it, but quite how that forms any kind of beam I'm not sure.

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Postby Whelan » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:36 pm UTC

How's your knowledge of oxidative phosphoyrlation, cos you'll have been doing hat all your life with probably little to no knowledge of it at all.
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Postby Ptolom » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:48 pm UTC

Whelan wrote:How's your knowledge of oxidative phosphoyrlation, cos you'll have been doing hat all your life with probably little to no knowledge of it at all.

That's...biochemistry?

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Postby Whelan » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:54 pm UTC

Yeah, the terminal stage of Aerobic respiration.
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Postby Ptolom » Tue Nov 22, 2011 7:57 pm UTC

Whelan wrote:Yeah, the terminal stage of Aerobic respiration.

Ah well, that's okay. I only respire anaerobically. I have the worst muscle cramps though.

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Postby doogly » Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:57 am UTC

Ptolom wrote:I'm operating an incredibly advanced electronic device right now, and yet my grasp of electrodynamics is flaky at best! I suddenly feel like I'm cheating at this. There's a machine which is effectively shooting beta particles at my face. I know it's something about a heated cathode in a vacuum, with magnets to control it, but quite how that forms any kind of beam I'm not sure.

What device are you using that's still CRT?
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Postby Shivahn » Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:00 am UTC

doogly wrote:
Ptolom wrote:I'm operating an incredibly advanced electronic device right now, and yet my grasp of electrodynamics is flaky at best! I suddenly feel like I'm cheating at this. There's a machine which is effectively shooting beta particles at my face. I know it's something about a heated cathode in a vacuum, with magnets to control it, but quite how that forms any kind of beam I'm not sure.

What device are you using that's still CRT?

My monitor is CRT. I got it in seventh grade. I'm.. like a year or two out of college now.

Yeahhhh I should probably buy a new monitor. This one is so much fun to degauss though!

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Postby Ser Pounce-a-lot » Wed Nov 23, 2011 6:49 am UTC

Detective Robert Goren (Vincent D'Onofrio) from Law and Order Criminal Intent is also Edgar from Men in Black and Gomer Pyle from Full Metal Jacket. HHINNTB?

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Re: The "How Have I Never Noticed That Before?" thread?

Postby Felstaff » Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:47 am UTC

Shivahn wrote:This one is so much fun to degauss though!

Does it go *CLICK!* Thwonggggg ?


Mine went *CLICK!* Thwonggggg
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