Zoo Mafia 3: End

[Mavketl]

Yeah, I feel like the inactivity charges are fair.

[mpolo]

I do see roband's point. Jumping in and claiming is typical Lataro. Hanging back and doing nothing since then is pretty atypical.

Of course, the problem is that his typical play usually has everybody screaming that he is scum, so he may be trying to slightly change his style to improve his win ratio. Which makes it harder to read him.

Honestly, I can see the vote as valid, and if I wasn't in the situation I'm in with not being change my vote, might have placed the vote myself (or followed it). As it is, I have to await Lataro's response to the arguments made.

[roband]

Honestly, I can see the vote as valid, and if I wasn't in the situation I'm in with not being change my vote, might have placed the vote myself (or followed it). As it is, I have to await Lataro's response to the arguments made.

Yeah, don't vote too soon. DBC isn't clear of anything either yet, in my mind. Of course, he also hasn't done anything wrong yet, but still

[AngrySquirrel]

Short version on what people have done so far:

Spoiler:

Lataro - votes Silknor (joke). First to claim emotion. Votes Misnomer (for making it into a seemingly mav or roband choice of lynch)
mpolo - 4th to claim emotion. Argues against claiming animals. Claims unable to change vote once he votes. Speculates on players and game.
webby - argues for claiming emotion. Explains why it might be bad, but think it's still worth it for giving us a possible link. 2nd to claim emotion. Responds to pressure, makes post with thoughts on all players. Votes lataro for acting differently.
ForAllOfThis - Votes Mavketl, due to posting restriction. 6th to claim emotion. Unvotes. Votes Lataro (posting restriction). Claims restriction, have to vote every 48 hours, someone different, and no revote. Posts must be kept short. Votes AS. Comments on content.
Thirdkoopa - replaced by DaBigCheez. Claims emotion.
Misnomer - speculates on game setup. Asks for others opinion on "unusual mechanics". Speculates on unusula mechanics. IGMEOY FOAT for having a seemingly unoriginal role. Votes Webby (pressure). Unvotes after Webby responds. Mild FoS on Roband. Votes Lataro. Speculates on posting restrictions not being present in all posts. Keeps leaving 3 questions at the end of his posts, although this is apparently not a posting restriction.
Mavketl - brings up claiming emotions + searches for posting restrictions, explains hesitation on asking for a full massclaim, lots of asking roband if x is his posting restriction. 3rd to claim emotion. Again asks if something is a posting restriction. Agrees that 4+ scum team is extremely unlikely. Speculates on players.
roband - votes lataro (joke?), unvotes, game speculation, comments on it not being normal Mav. Argues that claiming animals immediately gives us the best change to catch later lies. 5th to claim emotion, but also tells us he don't like it? Questions mpolo's reasoning for being against claiming animals. Acknowledges the lyncher-theory as a potential possiblity. Meta explanation on why there can't be more than 3 scum. Speculates on FOAT's posting restriction. Speculates around unusual mechanics. Brings up mav as scummiest. Can vote however he wants when he wants and aims to prove it. Votes Mav for not playing normally. Unvotes, was fishing for bandwagoners. Votes Lataro for not being bold. FoS on FOAT

Other notes: There's a lot of roband/mavketl exchanges. I'm not sure what to make of it. Both post so much it's getting hard for me to find the motivation to actually read what they say anymore. Especially roband.

Other thoughts:
Our two players with voting restrictions are a possible problem later in the game. Mpolo can't change his vote once he votes and as far as I've understood FOAT has to vote quite often and can't revote or? Not quite sure how that works. Worth keeping in mind.

Mavketl's posting restriction seems to be that she has to ask people a lot about what their posting restriction is and then deny that she has a posting restriction if someone asks.

Lataro: Is not quite as arrogantly annoying as usual. This makes me nervous.
roband: quite probably town.
Mavketl: Undecided, acts funny. Slightly scummy leaning, but that's just a gut feeling with no solid reason.
mpolo/webby/FOAT/misnomer: Don't really stand out. Completely undecided on those as of yet. I'll have to read their posts more carefully later.
Thirdkoopa/DaBigCheez: I am still waiting for content.

Excuse me for being a bit incoherent as I am currently propped full of pain-medication.

[roband]

If people would prefer I can try to post with less frequency but higher content.

'Try' is the main word there though.

[roband]

I'm about to go offline and will be hard pushed to get on again before deadline (it's 5am on Sunday in my timezone and I wasn't planning on being at a PC on Saturday).

I will try to get on, and will change my vote to FAOT if the majority request/agree with it.

[Mavketl]

New Deadline is set for Sunday 10PM PST, 60 hours from now.

[ForAllOfThis]

Sorry, I should be posting short posts more frequently but due to multiple of real-world commitments I'm struggling. It is a restriction but I should be getting more content in. I'm not entirely sure why roband is trying to force a lynch onto me but I find it amusing. I would disagree with the no content thing, my votes give you plenty to discuss about as it's like a drawn out town-scum list. Although I realise that I haven't been giving much discussion with my votes but there's not a whole lot to go on D1.

[ForAllOfThis]

I hope this is considered a new post but you seem to be forgetting I'm required to vote, so I had to vote for someone second, and that means your argument could apply to anyone, even if i had voted you second.

[ForAllOfThis]

Also, I think I'm required to vote sometime soon (although if the mod keeps extending the days I might run out of people to vote for, espescially as we get to the later days). I think mpolo has contributed well, and his arguments have made a lot of sense so he can be added to my safe list for now.

Vote: Mpolo

I'm leaning towards roband as scum mostly because he is guilty of what he is accusing me off. Apart from his little spat with Mav, what has he contributed?

[ForAllOfThis]

EBWOP:

Unvote
Vote: Mpolo

[Lataro]

Because it might be useful to actually try and get an answer for this:

Mod: what will happen to Thirdkoopa if they fail to respond to the prod by the end of the day?
Ninjas have taken care of that.

On an unrelated note, something is bugging me about Mav's 'restriction'. Why is it that it only seems to be present in some of her posts, not all of them? Am I missing something obvious here?

Similarly with AS, her doomedness only appears in about half of her posts.

Perhaps my mafia senses have slipped into paranoid territory again, but I'm starting to smell fake posting restrictions here...

Annnyways, I'll probably start making serious votes once the Thirdkoopa issues becomes clear. In the meantime, I think I'll OMGUS Lataro.

Vote: Lataro

1. What do you think my likely motivation would be in wanting to tunnel the lynch towards Roband or Mavketl?
2. Speaking of which, who would you rather lynch out of Roband or Mavketl?
3. Of all the restrictions declared so far, which do you think is the most believable? And which is the least?

First, how dare you vote for me, blah blah blah!

Second, I refuse to answer these questions, as your use of them indicates a pattern, which may be related to a power, that without knowing exactly what consequences may occur, I will not participate in.

Excellent, a replacement and an extension!

Some thoughts on the night's posts - mpolo, my cowardly hasn't come into anything that's happened so far in the game. I'm reluctant to claim what it does because I think it would only help scum. Speaking of which, mpolo has posted better recently, so I'll have to find a new target. Lataro and Mav are probably my first two candidates based on my last post.

Mav's analysis was basically in agreement with mine and I agree with her about roband being townie. I don't think that necessarily makes Mav town though, I'll have to look back to see if there's weirdness that can't be explained simply by her posting restriction.

For now though, Lataro is clearly the player playing most different from usual. Hopefully this will help make him come back and give us some actual content:

Vote: Lataro

How dare you vote me?!

DBC - post or vote restrictions? Let us know ASAP please.

I am going to vote Lataro and FOS FAOT.

Vote: Lataro
FOS: FAOT

Lataro is not as bold as normal. Town Lataro has no reason to not be bold. Town Lataro is always bold. Something is different here.

FAOT has posted quite a lot. But said barely anything. Regarding links, he also voted for Lataro second (first would be too obvious if he got killed and revealed to be scum) which I think could effectively link these two players. The linking is a secondary point, however, mainly the FOS is for active lurking IMO.

Again, FU for voting me, how dare you!

Now that all that BS is out of the way, onward.

I like my Misnomer vote because his use of these questions seem to indicate a power, as I said above, and I'm leery of it, most notably, the second question, since it may have a kill-like power effect for the person most answered or some such.

I'd also like a vote on Mpolo, primarily because of his list of players and feeling on them, the worst he calls anyone is neutral, and he clearly doesn't think anyone is scummy. This screams scum playing it safe and trying to avoid a vote on them by playing nice with everyone.

As to me, deal with it. I work and am rather busy, this isn't the only thing in my life, imagine that if after working 10 hours you don't feel like posting after getting home when all you see is, "Gasp! Lataro is different, he's scummy!"

So, vote stays where it is for the time being, and I wouldn't be against an mpolo lynch if things went that way.

[Misnomer]

Lol, you refuse to answer my questions in case they kill you? That's a novel excuse...

Anyways, my vote stays until you stop being so evasive.

[ForAllOfThis]

Can we skip the 'Im not answering questions' malarky, and one side cave? I remember this being a big problem in an old game, which just distracted from the discussion. From what I remember, Misnomer was pushing for questions to be answered then. I'll need to look it up to see if he was scum.

[DaBigCheez]

Okay, just finished my re-read, and here's what I've got so far:

From the roband/mavketl interaction, and other things said afterwards, I'm...not getting at all the same "very towny" read of roband a lot of others are. A lot of things he's said just seem to get my hackles in a bunch, especially during the beginning in the thing with Mav - not so much accusations or anything, more the tone and angle of his speculation makes me nervous. I currently read Mav as townie, and roband as suspicious. It seems like a lot of the arguments for roband being towny are based on his meta, so the fact I don't know him as well as others do may play into my read being different.

I agree Lataro doesn't seem to be his usual self, in terms of boldness; I initially was reading him as fine, but the pattern pointed out by others (mostly lurking and fulfilling his post restriction early, and still not a lot of content even later) has me somewhat worried. Putting him as slightly scummy.

ForOllAfThis (hey, everyone always calls him FOAT, so...) also has me not entirely comfortable-feeling - he's been posting a fair bit to satisfy his post restriction without really contributing a whole lot. It's not a big tell; neutral leaning slightly scummy.

weeby's had generally good content so far, even if his reads completely disagree with mine. Which is fine, I mean, it's not a big deal or anything, *grumble*... Townie.

AngrySquirrel was very lurky early in the day for someone who then calls out others on lurking. However, she's having RL stuff right now, so I'm not going to weigh too much on that. Lurker.

Misnomer's questioning (and lack of obvious connection to his "patience") has me watching him carefully, but I don't think he's really betrayed signs of scumminess, besides prodding others to generate content more than doing so himself. Neutral.

I generally like mpolo's contributions, even if somewhat infrequent, and holding off on voting makes sense. Townie.


My ratings:

SCUM
roband
Lataro
ForOfAllThis
Misnomer
Mavketl
mpolo
weeby
TOWN

(AngrySquirrel lurker, but would go between FOAT and Lataro; obviously I'm clear on the town end!)

And I mean, if you *really* want me to talk about posting restrictions, I guess that's fine, or whatever. No, no, really, it's no problem. I don't mind. Just don't expect me to really say much if you accuse me to my face. Which, I mean, you can. It's totally fine. Go right ahead. Jerk.

Would place my vote on roband if pressed, but we have long enough left in the day there's no rush, and it'd just be so rude to vote someone behind their back while they're away, don't you think? Talking about them, on the other hand...

No voting restrictions.

[mpolo]

We have parent-teacher day today, so this has to be brief. My neutral feelings about Lataro are slipping towards the "scummy", especially with this whole "I'm not going to answer Misnomer, I'm not going to respond to this…" He may be right that there is a power connected with the questions, though. Of roband and Mavketl, Mav seems to be playing the most "differently from normal", which has me looking at her more than roband. On the other hand, she doesn't seem particularly scummy either. While there is some content in FAOT's little vote-roulette posts, more analysis would be welcome, even if you have to spread it out over several posts.

[roband]

Mav, that's 5am Monday morning then! A bit better cos I should be on on Sunday night.
Quickly,

I hope this is considered a new post but you seem to be forgetting I'm required to vote, so I had to vote for someone second, and that means your argument could apply to anyone, even if i had voted you second.

Sure, but my point is that if you are scum, voting on your partner second would seem logical to me.
Regardless, I thought I made it clear that the view of your vote was only secondary to why I thought BOTH of you were scummy, and it potentially linked you.

FAOT seems really snarky at the moment. Maybe the 'real world commitments' are having an effect, but regardless that's unusual as well.

I can see both sides of 'Misnomer is doing a repetitive action, this could be power related' and 'Lataro finds an excuse to not answer questions, this could be scummy'.

DBC, you don't like my tone? I apologise. I think something and I'm at my computer and suddenly, I've posted it. There's not often a lot of thought between brain and keyboard.

I will be back on before deadline.

[webby]

Lol I'm weeby now? But I like DBC's post, so I'll tentatively put him in the 'good' category.

I don't disagree with the assessment of mpolo as 'cautious', but that seems pretty typical of mpolo generally rather than a scumtell.

I await more content from Lataro before deciding whether to keep my vote on him.

[ForAllOfThis]

Actually the snarkiness had a lot to do with cramming a post in early hours this morning, and being sleep deprived when doing so =D. I found the game I was talking about, it was TV Tropes and the argument was between BN & Misnomer (viewtopic.php?f=53&t=67889&start=40), where Misnomer was an SK & BN was town. Of course, Misnomer always fires off a ton of questions at the start of a game, its a good way to get through day 1 without posting any content yourself.

Misnomer: What do you think of mpolo and DBC?

[Mavketl]

Lataro, seriously? I have a lively imagination, but I have trouble seeing how Misnomer's questions could be power-related. What kind of pattern do you think it indicates, other than the pattern of Misnomer asking questions like this in mostly every game he's in? Seems a little paranoid.

That said, I actually find myself agreeing with parts of Lataro's analysis. Especially this:

I'd also like a vote on Mpolo, primarily because of his list of players and feeling on them, the worst he calls anyone is neutral, and he clearly doesn't think anyone is scummy. This screams scum playing it safe and trying to avoid a vote on them by playing nice with everyone.

And I like how mpolo follows that up with "My neutral feelings about Lataro are slipping towards the "scummy"" which yeah, ironically funny, but not very townie-looking.

Vote: mpolo

I'll be around plenty in the time until the deadline, and I can be convinced to change my vote. I just think it's time to start tallying votes so we have some patterns to look at on D2 rather than "oops, deadline, and everyone voted for the same person so nobody stands out" or whatever.

[mpolo]

No, I admit that I didn't find anybody worse than neutral, but that was because no one seemed worse than neutral. I'm going to read Lataro's post again, though; maybe I skimmed it too quickly. [pause] I did notice his comment about me before, but the statement that he was slipping was more based on the previous two thirds of the post, where he used the excuse of his restriction to avoid answering anything at all that was directed at him. Yes, I see that he could have a point about Misnomer. I don't recall such a 3-question block after every vote in other games, and would like for him to provide evidence that he really has done similar things. (Question asking I have seen, but three questions after every vote? That seems new. Wild guess: because he is patient, he has to post these questions, and if you answer them to some definition of acceptably, he has to unvote until he can produce a new argument. Or something.)

Anyway, Lataro's feels different than usual, but not egregiously so. The last lines of his last post, which I kind of flew over before, leave me wondering, but I think at least justify his not answering the famed Misnomer questions. There is also an explanation for being shorter than usual.

Curse you, Mav! You forced me back into neutrality. I have to try to re-read some more and come to some kind of conclusion.

Fortunately, the deadline is like 4 am Monday morning for me, and I ought to be able to do something either Sunday morning or Sunday evening. I will try to make it in the morning so that there is time for discussion, but I may be stuck entertaining the students whose parents didn't come for parent-teacher day…

[Lataro]

Obligatory FU to everyone.

I really see no need, reason, or anything at all to defend myself, so if you're waiting for me to do so, don't hold your breath.

If you want to lynch me, fine, whatever. I'm not claiming though to avoid getting lynched, so don't hold your breath for that either, my care level is pretty low with all the BS going on thus far.

I really don't see where any of this garbage is coming from from mpolo and others, as I've done nothing to "hide behind" my restriction.

unvote
vote: mpolo

Since he seems more likely to be lynched than misnomer at this moment.

[ForAllOfThis]

You do realise I will have to unvote mpolo before the deadline? On top of that, since when did going for the person most likely to be lynched instead of the person you think is most scummy, become a town play?

[Mavketl]

Also "I won't bother to claim or really make any attempts to not get lynched if you guys are all stupid enough to lynch me because if you want to lynch me then you just deserve to lose and I don't care if town wins anymore if I die". What the fuck? I guess I'll stop bothering to defend you as well, then, since you don't seem to think it's worth the effort.

It doesn't even really point towards an alignment, because except for the emotional blackmailing emo aspect (roband in HUAC anyone? ) it's not a good scum play either. It's just bad.

[Lataro]

for fucks sake, the whole of it seems to be...

"Lataro isn't playing boldly, he's scum!"

"Lataro isn't being super active, he's scum!"

"Lataro is playing like Lataro now, he's scum!"

There is absolutely nothing to defend against, it's just asinine crap. I've already stated that I have other things in life that have higher priority, and that some days I just don't feel like dealing with the forums after work. You can all read into that as you please, but I'll be damned if I'm going to put any real effort in when I'm getting shit like the above. I've stated who I suspect, given reasons for why, and if everyone collectively wants to vote me for BS reasons, then whatever, I'm not gonna care if my faction wins or loses when they act like that.

[Mavketl]

So they suck for playing against their alignment for lynching you with bad arguments (as if we don't have 2/3/4 non-townies floating around, anyway), but it's perfectly reasonable for you to play against yours by not trying to survive?


And it really sucks that your response to all of this is "FU everyone" and "everyone collectively is doing this", because it's not everyone. And if you would pay attention to who is making which arguments, maybe we could actually learn something other than your "I don't even care anymore you all suck" emo tantrum. There is no way that you do not realize all of this already, so snap out of it.

[Silknor]

Votals:
Lataro (3): Misnomer, Webby, Roband
Thirdkoopa (1): AngrySquirrel
Mpolo (3): FAOT, Mavketl, Lataro

9 players, 5 to lynch. 23 hours left in D1.

[mpolo]

The whole outburst from Lataro seems more like the frustration that led him to back off of playing a while back than any real indication of alignment. I've been on the fence about him the whole game, and as soon as I think I have a read, someone points out that I didn't read his post exactly enough. I'm going to take a moment to do a reread, and I guess I'm going to have to place a vote at that point, since the deadline is so close. [Managed to get out of "entertainment duty" for the morning, but afternoon is another thing…]

[mpolo]

O.K. I started on Page 3. I'm still having a hard time finding super scummy behavior.

Spoiler:

Misnomer: No standard playstyle. Questions are directed at specific people. Unvotes webby after he answers. Missing restrictions in some posts, are the restrictions fake? Vote with questions for Lataro. Questions are not a restriction. Vote on Lataro stays until he stops being evasive.

Roband: Questions are innocuous. confusion about own power. Votes Mav. Points out deadline for Mav. The vote was just a scumtrap that nobody jumped into. Likes to chat, wary of Mav's calling him townie. Votes Lataro for unusual behavior. FAOT hasn't produced much real content. Lataro kind of forced the mass-claim. Some normal behavior, some abnormal behavior. DBC hasn't posted yet. Misunderstanding of deadline. If FAOT is scum, he voted his partner early. FAOT getting snarky. Kind of blows off DBCs suspicion.

AS: lurker lynch. Hospital.

webby: Very good answers to the questions (scummy are: AS, Lataro, Mav, mpolo). Cowardly is not visible. Agree that roband is likely town. Votes Lataro because he's playing differently. roband probably town, Mavketl acting funny, mpolo/webby/FAOT/Misnomer don't stand out. Wants content from Lataro.

FAOT: mood -> posting; animal -> power. Vote AS. [May have a strict character/line limit, as he split two lines off into another post.] Votes mpolo. Remembers one game where Misnomer was pushing questions. Snarky from the time of post. Question for Misnomer.

Mav: roband is probably town (webby/Lataro, ThirdKoopa, mpolo scummy). Based on previous Zoos, not every post has to have the restriction. Don't see FAOT as scummy. [Her post restriction seems to be just getting the words "Post restriction" into every post.] Lataro can't be bold and cautious at the same time. He has been less active than normal. Has trouble seeing the problem with the questions. Misnomer always does that. Votes mpolo. Need to analyze vote patterns. Shape up, Lataro.

DBC: is here. Disagrees with concensus: roband is the scummiest. (roband, Lataro, FAOT, Misnomer) [posts some passive-agressive stuff, implying that this is a post restriction]

Lataro: real world issues. Likes Misnomer vote because of the questions. Doesn't like mpolo for lack of opinions. Votes mpolo to save himself. I can't defend against asinine charges.

AS had only minor problems (almost exclusive concentration on lurkers) before the hospital situation, and we obviously can't fault her recent posting pattern: neutral.

DBC: has only one real post to his name. Was bold enough to defy the consensus on roband: mildly townie

Mav: I now think her post restriction is just to include the words "Post Restriction" in her posts. Some good analysis, perhaps a little less than usual. Occasionally there is a different feeling than the usual "town Mav" vibe: neutral

Lataro: Has real life issues that prevent posting as he would like. Very defeatest (emo) attitude toward those who have noted a difference in play-style: despite the whole breakdown thing, I honestly see him as somewhat scummy. The reaction is a little like a scum who is being lynched for the "wrong reasons"

Misnomer: Lataro has me worried about the questions thing. And he's been really consistent with always 3 questions in this game. And he refuses to unvote until the questions are answered. He denies that this has anything to do with his power/restriction, but I'm beginning to think otherwise. Some scumminess.

FAOT: Has real-life issues, but has not provided much on the way of real analysis. Some scumminess here as well.

which has me at:

Townie
roband
webby

Mavketl
AngrySquirrel

Lataro
FAOT
Misnomer
Scummy

I should get on before going to bed, so will wait to place my unchangeable vote. If I were able to change my vote, I would have voted Misnomer at this point.

[Misnomer]

Misnomer: What do you think of mpolo and DBC?

I have concerns about mpolo, especially now that Lataro's argument was apparently sufficiently persuasive enough for mpolo to reserve his opinion of me, relegating me from "leaning town" in his first analysis to "scummy" in the second. Moving on to less OMGUS-y territory, some of the other points in his posts come across as odd as well. In his latest analysis, he lists FAOT as the second scummiest player in the game (incidentally another relegation from "leaning town") in his first game - as justification of this, he simply asserts that FAOT has "some scumminess", but offers no examples. However, the majority of his content just strikes me as being very safe, consisting mostly of summaries of claims/actions, uncontroversial statements and a lot of on-the-fence analysis (esp. regarding Lataro). So while there's no smoking gun yet, I have my suspicions.
IGMEOY: mpolo

As far as DBC's concerned, there's obviously not much to go on, but I'm liking what I'm seeing so far. As ever, could do with some more content though, and I certainly want to see a vote from them before the day ends.


Now, I'm really not sure where this whole "Misnomer obviously must have to ask 3 questions every time he votes" thing has come from, but as I said earlier, it's not a restriction. Please, allow me to demonstrate:

Unvote
Vote: Mavketl

...behold, no questions!

Unvote
Vote: DBC
1. What do you think of Lataro's justification for not answering my questions?

...behold, only one of the three questions I'm apparently obliged to ask!

Unvote

...and an unvote before it's been answered!


Anyways, enough demonstrating:
Vote: Lataro

[mpolo]

Well, that helps somewhat. Now there's at least not a suspicious pattern. The "some scumminess" on FAOT was primarily the failure to provide a lot of content. I'm mostly overlooking the snarkiness of a couple of posts. It's pretty clear that if I'm trying to make a read through to convince myself that there are scum out there, I'm going to change my opinion on some people.

In that case, Misnomer is more in the "neutral unknown" area. I'm not sure who I want to vote for, and should be able to get online at least once more before deadline. If I had to vote now, it would probably be for Lataro, simply because of the wine involved with the whole outburst. I am trying to back off there. I admit the main piece of evidence here is just the gut feeling that something is "off", which I would rather not have as the basis for a lynch if we can help it.

[mpolo]

Well, I put this off as long as I could.

Vote: Lataro

I'm sure that there's a lot of real-life factors involved with the way he's behaving, but it's definitely different than usual. I understand his frustration, because he was tending to get lynched day one for his aggressivity and now I'm voting him for being different. In my defense, I did manage to avoid voting for him in one game where he was in fact town. He has been posting less than usual, and has given a reason for this. However, even when he posts, they are mostly quotes of others, with a staunch refusal to respond to questions (his staunchness had me worried that maybe he was onto something with Misnomer, but based on the demonstration, I am having to presume that he was wrong on that assumption. He had a few reasonable ideas in the second-to-last post, but I don't think that that counteracts the scummy vibe I've been getting.

I could have voted for FAOT, but his participation has generally better, if not as content-full as we might hope. Nobody else was far enough down my suspicion scale to place a vote. Anyway, I'm off to bed...

[roband]

Sup guys. For those who can't count, that's Lataro at L -1.

I have nothing else to add to what I've already said to be honest.

[Silknor]

Votals:
Lataro (4): Misnomer, Webby, Roband, Mpolo
Thirdkoopa (1): AngrySquirrel
Mpolo (3): FAOT, Mavketl, Lataro

9 players, 5 to lynch. 8 hours left in D1.

[RoadieRich]

8 hours left in D1.

And that means start getting your actions in now.

Please remember to include all three mods in all PMs.

[DaBigCheez]

To put my voting record where my mouth is:

Vote: roband

It's not strong, but it's the strongest read I feel I have. I don't feel Lataro's actions are worth a vote at this time, nor ForOllAfThis's.

And yes, weeby, you are forever weeby in my mind after watching that one game in which it originated.

[ForAllOfThis]

Changing vote (because I have to), not sure if the vote changed has arrived late but had work today (so end up forgetting to check xkcd until going to bed). I'm going to place a vote on DBC because it's safer than putting one on roband (less likely to be bandwagoned by scum).

Unvote
Vote: DBC

[webby]

Ok, so I need to decide between Lataro and mpolo.

Unfortunately, Lataro has decided not to act pro-town. His latest posts don't change how likely I think he is to be town/scum, because it could be interpreted as town being frustrated, or scum being frustrated at being lynched for the wrong reasons.

I do agree that mpolo seems a little off (his last post is still too cautious, but giving a ranked list means it's actually expressing an opinion and therefore better), but at least he's giving us some content to go off.

If Lataro posts before deadline and gives some reasonable analysis of who he thinks is scum, I will change my vote (and it's currently 4-3-1-1 as far as I know, so that change in vote would put the lynch on mpolo). Otherwise, he's going to be useless to town and he's very possibly scum, so I'll keep my vote where he is.

[RoadieRich]

Votals:
Lataro (4): Misnomer, Webby, Roband, Mpolo
Thirdkoopa (1): AngrySquirrel
Mpolo (2): Mavketl, Lataro
Roband (1): DaBigCheese
DaBigCheese (1): FoaT

9 players, 5 to lynch. 3(ish) hours left in D1.
(Edit (because I can): Corrected deadline, my maths was off by one...)

[webby]

The usual question:

How are ties resolved?