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Postby dunstergirl » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:05 am UTC

Love them or not?

My kid says she hates them, doesn't get them, BUT a random homework assignment AND thanks to the wall-size map of BC on my bedroom wall (thanks to Kim, RIP) we answered most of the questions. Eff GPS, give me a good map any day.

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Re: Maps

Postby Deva » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:53 am UTC

Appreciates maps. Carried one of the college campus. Located classes and examination rooms, mainly. Served as a failsafe in case of becoming lost also.
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Postby Garm » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:18 am UTC

I've always loved drawing maps even though I'm a terrible artist. I love looking at maps of fantasy realms as well.
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Postby Azrael001 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:24 am UTC

I took as much GIS as I could get access to while in university, and am currently working in the Maps and Government Information Center at the University library, and I have made more than one fantasy map in my spare time. I like maps.
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Postby Sheikh al-Majaneen » Tue Apr 10, 2012 4:52 am UTC

When I was a kid I asked my dad to trace an outline of the US from an atlas. At 7 AM. He did it because he asked his dad to trace an outline of the world's continents when he was that young.

I love maps, and it runs in the family.

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Postby Giant Speck » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:40 am UTC

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Postby Angua » Tue Apr 10, 2012 8:10 am UTC

My cousin is apparently map crazy, as is one of her friends (eg, they have all the OS maps for the UK I think). He gave her a book to read once where the protagonist was map crazy, and they were talking about how great it was.
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Re: Maps

Postby philsov » Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:47 pm UTC

Azrael001 wrote:I took as much GIS as I could get access to while in university


Same :D

Worked part time while at university as a map maker / computer graphics for a local natural gas company. I've never bothered to hand draw one, but the inclusion of one in, say, either fantasy or historical novels helps so very much. I can also read topos rather well. I once did some high adventure stuff with the Boy Scouts where they basically handed us a map, a compass, some food, and they said "Go here. We'll see you at the next way point in 4 days."

Regarding GPS, I hate hate hate near-first person view where the map moves whenever I turn and I can't see more than two streets ahead of me. Give me a top-down always-north map and make my little arrow spin when I move!
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Re: Maps

Postby OBrien » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:11 pm UTC

Modern maps are useful as but for decoration I prefer really old ones, like Medieval and Roman maps. Basically anything from before we actually knew what exact shapes countries were, like this one.
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Re: Maps

Postby ArgonV » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:56 pm UTC

Giant Speck wrote:Wait! They don't love you like I love you.

Yeah yeah yeah, that's where my mind went first as well.

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Re: Maps

Postby jasc15 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:07 pm UTC

When I was in third grade, we spent a few weeks drawing and coloring a map of the world. It was my favorite assignments throughout all grammar school. I have a map of Europe drawn in 1915 by my great grandfather which is about 3 feet x 3 feet, and an aeronautical map of New York and New England pinned to the wall for flight planning. I love to stare at maps an can draw the US freehand (thought I'm not very good at proportions) with all state boundaries.

philsov wrote:Regarding GPS, I hate hate hate near-first person view where the map moves whenever I turn and I can't see more than two streets ahead of me. Give me a top-down always-north map and make my little arrow spin when I move!


I'm the same. I always have the GPS north-up. It ruins my perception of the relative locations between landmarks to have the map rotate constantly. The first person view, I just don't understand (though it is helpful when approaching a complicated highway intersection). I belong to a flying club, and I change the GPS to north-up when I fly, and there is always someone who changes it back to track-up. To each his own, i guess.

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Postby Garm » Tue Apr 10, 2012 5:20 pm UTC

Maybe try having your daughter read "Mapmaker's Dream." It's about a guy who makes a map based on the tales of travelers. He never goes anywhere. It's quite a good book.
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Re: Maps

Postby PAstrychef » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:25 am UTC

The thing about maps is that they show you the relationships between things. So a time line is a kind of map, and a recipe is a kind of map, and there are lots of different maps and map types for the globe and the solar system and soon. Make up a place and map it- or make a map of your house and where the important places in your life are. Make a treasure map and bury some treasure to find at the spot marked with an X. A map of a bird's route as different from a mouse's route. A map of the nervous system, which looks a lot like a map of the capillary system of a leaf.....
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Postby Kithplana » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:41 am UTC

One weekend I got it in my head to make a map. http://www.cartographersguild.com/ is a pretty awesome site/forum/community/otter/duck for learning how to draw maps. Lots of awesome map porn, lots of good tutorials for those of varying artistic talents.

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Re: Maps

Postby mercutio_stencil » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:28 am UTC

OBrien wrote:Modern maps are useful as but for decoration I prefer really old ones, like Medieval and Roman maps. Basically anything from before we actually knew what exact shapes countries were, like this one.


I'm always fond of maps of places that don't really quite exist. Not fantasy maps as such, but maps that just happen to include Antillia, or have California as an island, stuff like that.

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Postby Azrael001 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 5:47 am UTC

Alternate history maps, like the balkanized North America one that I once saw, are pretty cool. Similarly, I'm a fan of maps of familiar locations, real or fantasy, a map of modern Middle Earth is the one that I'm thinking of, but I can't remember where I found it.
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Postby PatrickRsGhost » Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:49 am UTC

I had a co-worker who collected old maps of cities or states of the U.S. It was very interesting to see how a city's limits change over the course of 10, 25, or 100 years, up to what it is today, through all of the maps. It was cool to see how areas that are now their own cities were once part of another city.
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Re: Maps

Postby Plasma Man » Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:39 am UTC

I've never used GPS, it's maps all the way for me. I don't know why, but I feel very comfortable using them, I find it very easy to keep a mental track of where I am, which way I'm heading and where I've been.
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Re: Maps

Postby EvilDuckie » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:23 am UTC

I'm a cartographer, so I love maps. I've got quite a big collection by now, can get really excited if I find an old atlas in a 2nd hand bookstore. I'm self-employed, so I can make it a business expense even (and sometimes I do find a genuine business need for a 1957 atlas, and a 1952 one, and so on).

@Angua: I think I have that book you refer to. "Map Addict" by Mike Parker iirc. Don't have all the OS maps though.
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Re: Maps

Postby BriAnna85 » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:16 pm UTC

I really enjoy using any form of map. I will admit, I get frustrated with your typical car-door-million-folds-road map, I'm directionally minded but that doesn't mean I'm patient.

I've also noticed that my most favorite books in the world all have maps in their front covers - definitely also explains my fascination with National Geographic - must be a cartographer at heart.

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Postby The EGE » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:40 pm UTC

I make maps for Wikipedia, mostly transit system maps. Here's one I did of Norfolk's new light rail system (click for a full version):

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Postby Gear » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:27 pm UTC

The EGE wrote:I make maps for Wikipedia, mostly transit system maps. Here's one I did of Norfolk's new light rail system (click for a full version):

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Okay, now that's kind of seriously awesome.
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Re: Maps

Postby Faithful » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:59 pm UTC

I love maps.

I loved my GIS class in college. I love making them. I love fantasy maps in books. LOTR trilogy book - the one where all three books in one - had detailed maps of the entire realm. WoT maps are awesome, especially city designs.

On the other hand, I will only use my phone or my GPS while driving. I do have a road map in the trunk of my car, I just never use it.

I will say, Map reading is a long lost skill that is definitely useful.

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Postby Adacore » Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:17 am UTC

When I was a kid I absolutely adored maps/plans. I always loved reading them, and I used to map things constantly - I must've made dozens of plans of our house & garden, or the village, or the school. I wonder why I stopped, that still sounds pretty awesome. Maybe I should consider a career change...

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Postby Djehutynakht » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:24 am UTC

I'm a big fan of maps myself. I tend to like bigger maps (like world) better than smaller-scale, like city or buildings, though. Maybe it's because they have more interesting shapes/more stuff on them. Dunno. I have quite a few lying around. I can also enjoy a good fantasy map, and have drawn a few myself for varying purposes.

Maps are good. I like maps.

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Postby Giant Speck » Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:05 am UTC

When I was a kid, I liked to draw maps of imaginary cities. I'd get pieces of large drawing paper and make elaborate road grids with rivers and bridges and parks. I also liked drawing series of maps showing the growth of a city.
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Postby Gears » Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:35 am UTC

Giant Speck wrote:When I was a kid, I liked to draw maps of imaginary cities. I'd get pieces of large drawing paper and make elaborate road grids with rivers and bridges and parks. I also liked drawing series of maps showing the growth of a city.
Mein Gott! I did that too.
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Postby Giallo » Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:00 pm UTC

I like maps. In particular bijective ones.
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Postby Giant Speck » Mon Apr 30, 2012 12:13 am UTC

You have really nice handwriting, Gears.
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Postby Adacore » Wed May 02, 2012 5:08 pm UTC

Giant Speck wrote:When I was a kid, I liked to draw maps of imaginary cities. I'd get pieces of large drawing paper and make elaborate road grids with rivers and bridges and parks. I also liked drawing series of maps showing the growth of a city.

My sister and I used to do this together. We'd 'grow' the cities organically, rather than planning them, though. It would start out with a couple of roads meeting and maybe a river on a piece of paper, then we'd draw some houses on, then gradually add more roads/houses, maybe some shops, then eventually once the 'city' got big enough, we'd get erasers out and start 'demolishing' blocks of it in order to build things like zoos and hospitals.

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Postby Gears » Fri May 04, 2012 7:14 am UTC

Giant Speck wrote:You have really nice handwriting, Gears.
Hahaha, thanks, but it's not mine.
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Re: Maps

Postby Kitutal » Sun May 06, 2012 1:31 pm UTC

I love just about any sort of maps, they make everything so clear and easy to understand, interesting, fascinating, beautiful, as a child I used to draw my own of fantasy worlds or spend hours going through atlases, I particularly like historical maps showing changes over the years or centuries. (I am starting to suspect that maps and history are my mildly autistic obsessions, but I consider them more interests I quite like)

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Postby Kaelri » Mon May 07, 2012 5:13 am UTC

I adore maps. I keep a folder of my favorite ones, like a cartographer's porn stash. World maps, both real and fictional; architectural designs; historical cities; vehicle blueprints; bridge floorplans from Star Trek; film sets; schools and institutions that I have attended; even a Holiday Inn where I once stayed as a child in 1998. I think possessing a map of a place gives me a strange but comforting sense of ownership - the same sense of mastery that one feels looking over one's well-stocked bookshelf.

I also draw maps from time to time. Some as part of personal projects, others just for leisure. Here's my most recent one (click for full-size).

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Re: Maps

Postby Garm » Mon May 07, 2012 10:01 pm UTC

Nice. Did you draw that in anything or is that freehand?
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Postby Kaelri » Tue May 08, 2012 12:18 am UTC

Garm wrote:Nice. Did you draw that in anything or is that freehand?

Thanks. I used a hand-drawn pencil scan for the basic outline, then Photoshop CS4 and a Wacom tablet for the details.

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Re: Maps

Postby Djehutynakht » Tue May 08, 2012 4:45 am UTC

That is an awesome map. I make some, but generally not nearly as artistic.

As a curiousity, for those who make their own fictional maps, do any of you tend to associate an accompanying story, history, etc. to it? I do, if only in my head.

I've also been known to take part in country-creating games and drawing elaborate maps of my creation.

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Re: Maps

Postby wings » Fri May 11, 2012 2:34 pm UTC

I have a great book called "The Maps as Art" by Katharine Harmon (2009). I highly recommend it to anyone with a passion for maps or an interest in alternative cartography. :) There's some insane interpretations of maps in that tome.

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Re: Maps

Postby Giant Speck » Sun May 13, 2012 6:06 am UTC

Damn. I actually wish I had saved some of the maps I had made when I was a kid. When I was in high school, I had an obsession with making maps of a fictional post-apocalyptic Los Angeles, where the area surrounding and including the Palos Verdes Peninsula was a water-filled asteroid crater.
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Re: Maps

Postby cjmcjmcjmcjm » Mon May 14, 2012 4:41 am UTC

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Giant Speck wrote:When I was a kid, I liked to draw maps of imaginary cities. I'd get pieces of large drawing paper and make elaborate road grids with rivers and bridges and parks. I also liked drawing series of maps showing the growth of a city.

My sister and I used to do this together. We'd 'grow' the cities organically, rather than planning them, though. It would start out with a couple of roads meeting and maybe a river on a piece of paper, then we'd draw some houses on, then gradually add more roads/houses, maybe some shops, then eventually once the 'city' got big enough, we'd get erasers out and start 'demolishing' blocks of it in order to build things like zoos and hospitals.

I'd do this as well. Sometimes, I'd even draw schematics of individual intersections if I felt they were important enough.
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Re: Maps

Postby Djehutynakht » Mon May 14, 2012 4:45 am UTC

Mhm... All the amazing map possibilities.

I have a hard time drawing small scale maps though, like cities or such. I have no idea why. Buildings I can do okay. Large areas too. But for some reason if the city on the map is much bigger than a blotch or such I have a hard time with them. I don't know why. Maybe I'm not just as talented with city scale... hm...

I have the game Civ 4 on my computer and recently I've been messing around with it's map editor to create some interesting computer maps. Of course, everything is preset, but it looks interesting.


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