1190: "Time"

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby LuthorAstarael » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:28 am UTC

I got one of her lying down. Think she's bored now? I don't think I've seen anyone post this one yet:

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By the way, reading this discussion made me smile this morning when I got into work.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TemporaryLife » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:29 am UTC

She's lying down, now.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby LuthorAstarael » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:31 am UTC

And another:

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby murrow » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:33 am UTC

If it is, indeed, coming in half hour increments, I'd expect no more than 24 hours of it. That's a lot of sketches.

Is it just me or is that speeding up quite a bit?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TemporaryLife » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:41 am UTC

murrow wrote:Is it just me or is that speeding up quite a bit?


I definitely think it is. It seems to be coming every 5-10 minutes. I've been refreshing every few minutes, and it has been changing.

Am I the only one that feels the same sense of discovery that came with "Click And Drag"? When I refreshed and found her laying down, I was taken aback. It's all so simple, but it's so strange.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby eidako » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:44 am UTC

The punchline is going to be "I just wasted (large number) man-hours of it."

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby phlip » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:45 am UTC

No, I'm still only seeing it change every half hour.

Some other people are seeing it switch back and forth between recent and older panels, sometimes, though... which I think is the result of weird caching behaviour, not it actually changing.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby silverkitty » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:50 am UTC

glasnt wrote:I can't see any javascripty auto-image changing,...

DSDM wrote:... no javascript wrapped around it,...

Poohblah wrote:... no javascript or other client-side functionality, ...


No one thought this: <script type="text/javascript" src="http://imgs.xkcd.com/static/time02.min.js"></script>
which appears right below the img src, looked like the javascripty image changing magic??

Be warned though: it's not just minified, it was clearly pretty obfuscated before it was minified.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby phlip » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:55 am UTC

silverkitty wrote:No one thought this: <script type="text/javascript" src="http://imgs.xkcd.com/static/time02.min.js"></script>
which appears right below the img src, looked like the javascripty image changing magic??

Be warned though: it's not just minified, it was clearly pretty obfuscated before it was minified.

Huh, that's new. Definitely wasn't there when the strip first went up.

[edit] However, pulling it apart, it looks like it doesn't actually contain any information that'll help us find future panels - that's still all serverside. I think this is just some fanciness to make it automatically change if you just leave the page open, so you don't have to keep refreshing.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taoistpage » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:57 am UTC

Honestly I'm loving this. Though I do think it is simply changing on the half hour.

I previously pointed out that I have a cron job collecting and dumping them into a dropbox folder here: dropbox(dot)com/sh/lkddoimlwidux4b/_BweKh8LPL

So far I have 9 images. I might be missing the first one from being late on the uptake. If anyone has the permalink to it (or if could tell me for certain that I've caught them all), I would appreciate it.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby moeffju » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:02 am UTC

The script is using HTML5 Server-Sent events to update the image programmatically. So the timing could change at any time.
Clever.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Gerino » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:02 am UTC

http://imgs.xkcd.com/static/time02.min.js

You guys have seen this, right? IMHO it just doesn't work:

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Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found) http://xkcd.com/events/connect_start
Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found) http://xkcd.com/events/connect_error
Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found) http://xkcd.com/events/connect_start
Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found) http://xkcd.com/events/connect_error
Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found) http://xkcd.com/events/connect_start
Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found) http://xkcd.com/events/connect_error
Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found) http://xkcd.com/events/connect_start
Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found) http://xkcd.com/events/connect_error
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Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found) http://xkcd.com/events/connect_error
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Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 (Not Found) http://xkcd.com/events/connect_error

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Eutychus » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:05 am UTC

It's broken for me now :(
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Beidah » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:06 am UTC

She's back up... Wasn't expecting to stay up all night watching XKCD slowly change.

I wonder what they're talking about.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby murrow » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:07 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Synthetica » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:07 am UTC

At the end of the JS it says /comics/time/something, could anyone take a look at it?
It's just that I don't know JS enough to figure out what exactly it does

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby shashwat986 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:07 am UTC

I refreshed the page after clearing the cache. It's gone back to image 1. Has that happened to someone else?
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby MauranKilom » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:08 am UTC

Indeed quite astonishing so many missed the javascript (i now see somebody posted it above).
Just ignore the random stuff at the beginning, start at the end: It waits for an event (which probably comes from Randall), then JSONs a new hash and changes the shown image.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby LuthorAstarael » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:08 am UTC

Ok, well they are now definitely moving of their own accord. The page must be auto refreshing somehow because they have moved a few times for me in the last half hour or so without me refreshing the page myself.

Or is it starting to drive me insane to the extent that I am seeing things?!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TemporaryLife » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:09 am UTC

shashwat986 wrote:I refreshed the page after clearing the cache. It's gone back to image 1. Has that happened to someone else?


Me too. I wonder if it's done? It feels a little too simple for it to be done now.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby phlip » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:10 am UTC

I haven't pulled it all apart, but I recognise a couple of the pieces... it's a way for the JS to connect to the server and wait for the server to tell it when there's a new panel up, so it can automatically load it up. So you can just leave the comic page open and it'll automatically load the new panel, rather than having to refresh it constantly. The bit that tells you what the next panel is is still serverside, so that doesn't help us find the new panels faster... it just hopefully reduces the server load somewhat.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby hanoc » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:11 am UTC

Guys first post here. I couldn't just lurk this out.
The meta-narrative in this piece is so great.
And by piece I'm including all of you fans. I mean, all of us.
There are so many levels that are only possible by XKCD having a so particular fandom.
I could layer level of fascination uppon level on fascination but I will only say that Munroe said "time, you have to wait for it" and all of us are instantly trying to beat time.

It's so nice. :'-)

Going back to lurking mode. It's only a matter of time for everything to unfold.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Synthetica » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:12 am UTC

phlip wrote:I haven't pulled it all apart, but I recognise a couple of the pieces... it's a way for the JS to connect to the server and wait for the server to tell it when there's a new panel up, so it can automatically load it up. So you can just leave the comic page open and it'll automatically load the new panel, rather than having to refresh it constantly. The bit that tells you what the next panel is is still serverside, so that doesn't help us find the new panels faster... it just hopefully reduces the server load somewhat.

At a random interval?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Degeim » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:13 am UTC

The image data the JS fetches is formatted like this:
id: 49348c7c-9528-11e2-8001-1c6f659cb250
event: comic/time
data: {"spread":5,"image":"49b69c39cdd429cdf367e215a878f536dc566862ae00b91814adfbd264753d89.png"}

Perhaps the hash is somehow based on the id? Anyway, I think we can just give it up right now -- I suspect Randall didn't want us to break this, and the easiest way to do that would be to simply not let the hash be systematic.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby murrow » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:14 am UTC

Yeah, I think having the usual traffic multiplied by our eagerness may have melted his server a bit. JS a late addition to prevent unnecessary loads?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby cdxf6465 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:14 am UTC

And how long has this text been on the front page:

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Looks to me like Randall is setting something up for this year's April 1.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby hanoc » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:14 am UTC

Guys first post here. I couldn't just lurk this out.
The meta-narrative in this piece is so great.
And by piece I'm including all of you fans. I mean, all of us.
There are so many levels that are only possible by XKCD having a so particular fandom.
I could layer level of fascination uppon level on fascination but I will only say that Munroe said "time, you have to wait for it" and all of us are instantly trying to beat time.

It's so nice. :'-)

Going back to lurking mode. It's only a matter of time for everything to unfold.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby shashwat986 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:15 am UTC

I while back I had written this AutoIt script to take screenshots of a given window every few seconds and keep checking if something changes. Time to run it, then...
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby shashwat986 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:17 am UTC

cdxf6465 wrote:And how long has this text been on the front page:

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Looks to me like Randall is setting something up for this year's April 1.


That's apparently Randall's BitCoin address.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby murrow » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:18 am UTC

Oh, and 9a047f93c3da13dea6f46816cb32a7e45d4a8318205cdd9233102f42efe3ada9

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby muzzle » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:20 am UTC

This has prompted me to listen to Pink Floyd's The Dark Side of the Moon again. Thanks Randal!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby dominikh » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:20 am UTC

The JavaScript really isn't exciting, neither is the data the event stream is sending us.

The ID is just a UUID used for the SSE (Server-Sent Event) protocol, so not related to the image file name. The JavaScript isn't obfuscated but just minified. Most of the JS is boiler plate/library support. In essence, it's allowing the server to send new image paths to the browser. The "spread" in the message gets multiplied by a random value between 0..1 and interpreted in seconds: The browser will wait that long before loading the image. Probably to avoid spamming the server with all requests at once.

The file names still get determined on the server, as well as the interval at which new images get displayed.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby TemporaryLife » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:20 am UTC

cdxf6465 wrote:And how long has this text been on the front page:

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Looks to me like Randall is setting something up for this year's April 1.


I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. I thought I just didn't remember, because the text is so damn small. The full thing:

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Zecrag » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:23 am UTC

interesting bit of code:

It is waiting for the comic/time function to show a new image, that bit is clear... But I don't understand that use of the random element function... Anyone can clear that up? I mean, they're just waiting for us to crack the code!

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby murrow » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:32 am UTC

It changed, subtly.
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby taoistpage » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:32 am UTC

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby phlip » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:33 am UTC

Zecrag wrote:interesting bit of code:

It is waiting for the comic/time function to show a new image, that bit is clear... But I don't understand that use of the random element function... Anyone can clear that up? I mean, they're just waiting for us to crack the code!

It's just a random delay between there being a new image, and it loading the new image... so that it doesn't result in everyone trying to load it at the same time.

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby Beidah » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:33 am UTC

Her hair is thinner, I guess. Are they growing old?

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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby JordanTheProgrammer » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:41 am UTC

id: 4e54f0bc-952c-11e2-8001-1c6f659cb250
event: comic/time
data: {"spread":5,"image":"9a047f93c3da13dea6f46816cb32a7e45d4a8318205cdd9233102f42efe3ada9.png"}

murrow
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Re: 1190: "Time"

Postby murrow » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:43 am UTC

I was hoping to learn some c tonight, not bang my head against hashcat for 3 hours.


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